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Bulgarian PayPal stealth
 

Hi guys,

I want to make Bulgarian PayPal stealth. There is a box Nationality in the menu when i am following the steps to creating it. I am worried about this. I will make it with non Bulgarian name because i will switch country after few months. I think to use German/Austrian name and Bulgarian nationality. When i hit the EU limits, do you think it will be risky to send Bulgarian ID with German/Austrian name ?

Thanks in advance.

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Hi guys,

Any suggestions ?

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take the plunge, youll never know what tale youll regale us with on your return.

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IMO names are not such a big deal. I've used made up names that don't exist, and the accounts are still going strong several years later. But best to stick with names, that are actually names.

P.S. There are bound to be German/Austrian people living in Bulgaria. :)

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You mean you used names on existing persons or exisitng names like John, Bruce Robert ? Sorry i don't get it.

I also think that names are not so important. I am worried about section nationality in PayPal registration. I made it with German/Austrian name and choosed Bulgarian nationality. When i hit EU limits i will know what have i done when i send them documents :)
As you said there is people with two nationality one by burth place one by living place.

I did't find the way to skip Schufa check in .de /i want to be seen as a German seller/ and i hope to change the registration address and IP to German after account is aged and solid.

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Just names you know exist, i.e. John, Jason, Jack... as oppose to something like Phalange (clearly not a name).

Exactly. People are likely to have dual nationality, so I wouldn't be too fussed about that.

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Good news. It should work. We will see what PayPal think about that soon :)
They don't see the name of the debit/credit card, only the numbers from the address. This make it a lot easier to make it stealth.

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Correct. PayPal don't see the name on a card, nor can they see the name on the bank account you add.

However, the one instance they can see the name on the bank is if you use it as a "funding source" to make a payment, i.e. money moves from your bank to your paypal account. That reveals your name, and could compromise your stealth account.

Other than that, your name is kept in confidence.

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I didn't know this so much important part. Thanks

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These are just few things you should read around the forum, and you'll pick up on.

The stealth guide teaches you the basics. To get a better understanding of everything, you should engage in the forum.

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Hi,do you know if they can see the address of the card?If not i guess i can add my fathers card.Thank you in advance!

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It depends on the card issuer. PayPal will attempt to confirm the address with that on the card to see if it matches, but its down to the card issuer whether they want to give that away.

Some card issuers are referred to as NON-AVS - Meaning they don't give anything away, and card adds to your PayPal.

Some are Partial-AVS - Some parts of numerical aspects of the address are verified (i.e. door number, zip code etc). Those partial aspects need to match PP, or it wont add.

Some are Full-AVS - All numerical aspects of the address are verified. All numerical aspects of the address need to match PP, or it will get declined.

Note - The card issuer doesn't give PayPal the address, they just confirm if its correct or not (or if its a partial match).

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Cards are either AVS or they aren't.

It's the payment processor (ie Paypal) that decides whether to accept a partial match.

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Some card issuers are in fact partial AVS, i.e. they will only confirm if door number or post code are a match.

But of course it's at the discretion of the payment processor to allow it or not.

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What is the best setup for eBay/PayPal stealth ?

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That is a very open ended question.

Best set up really depends on what your trying to do

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It was not clear question. My fault.

I made my first following the Stealth Book. Do not attach PayPal to eBay and paying fees with VCC. PayPal is with EU verification done.

I want to make long term solid accounts. Is this anything else to do, to make them stronger ?

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You'll learn as you go along. Read around the forums.

P.S. you don't need to pay fees using a VCC.

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I read many threads. I learned that paying fees with PayPal is not the best way. I dont know other way than VCC. I want to make it in best way. May be i am asking too much :)

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Personally, I've let eBay dip into the Paypal balance each month and take the fees. It's worked fine, and many of my accounts are several years old. So I can assure you it wont be an issue ;)

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Good to know. ;)

So, what can i do to setup my accounts in best way or what part of the Stealth Book is good to read again ? I need to be perfect.

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Having answered most of your questions, I think you're pretty perfect ;)

Instead of overthinking things, just taking things slow and easy, you'll go golden!

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You have answered all my questions. Thanks. :thumb:

It's time to make another two stealths and see what will happened. :typing:

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Good luck. If you have any questions, doubts, curiosities, let us know ;)

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I have my friend's docs and I want to set up PP acc and withdrawing to my own debit card. It will be EU PP. Is it possible to pass AVS check somehow ?

Thanks

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If your address doesn't match your friends, then nope. You'll need to use his debit card (if it allows withdrawals).

This isn't advised, but that's a whole another topic.

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Ok. I will use mine card and put some creativity when EU limits comes.

Nobody knows for sure, but do they check somehow the docs numbers and dob ? What guys do you think ?

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They will check stuff like dob, yes.

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Thanks Play.

Where can they do this check ? I am talking about Bulgarian PP.

I thought they only match the account info and sended docs.

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They check only the date of birth and the name, the number of the document(ID card or drivers license) is not checked.

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Can I send the docs before they asked for and will be a red flag ?

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I dont think that's an option, at least I know its not openly available on UK accounts. Might be different for other EU accounts.

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Someone to know how it works for the EU accounts ? I am ready to burn one PP to understand how they works.

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If you're willing to test it out, let us know how it pans out :)

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For sure :thumb: I have an account for which there is no other option when the EU limits come.

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That is normal for UK accounts, so I would assume same goes for EU based accounts.

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I read that in UK you can send docs before they asked for. Is it right ?

WARNING! PP link

https://www.paypal.com/uk/selfhelp/a...limits-faq1253


All PayPal accounts are initially ‘Unverified’ and have limits on sending, receiving and withdrawing money. To remove these limits and to comply with EU law, we will ask you to verify more information about yourself by completing some or all of the steps below:

Add and confirm your bank.
Link and confirm a credit or debit card.
Provide business information (Business accounts only).

By setting up bank funding your PayPal account will become Verified.

You can complete the steps and remove all your limits, as follows:

Go to your account summary.
Near the bottom left corner of the page under 'More about your account', click View your account limits.
Select the limits you wish to remove, click Lift Limits and follow the steps.

Note: You can begin these steps at any time, however if all the steps are not completed and you reach the annual receiving limit of £1,700 then you will no longer be able to withdraw or send money, fund transactions or close your account until you complete the steps.

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How recent is that information though? because very very very recently they removed the ability to lift limit until you were near the yearly limits.

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Don't know. Just find that info on PP site.

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Most likely outdated, they havent updated for a while. The link has been removed.