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| mhmhmh1111 | 11-21-2019 05:57 PM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by secret storm
(Post 1045786)
I've been saying and thinking this for a long time eBay and PayPal don't rely or need stealth accounts by any means. I'm sure stealth accounts are not even 5% of the total market.
Truth be told every stealth account created does more harm than good in the long run.
They've had all they want of stealth accounts now and have stepped there game way up and it's only going to get worse and worse...I wouldn't doubt if these forums have a big fall out. I've seen so many postings of people having so many problems. | lolz..to even suggest 5% is pretty comical..it's not even half a percent..people don't care enough like us to do this |
| SaiJin | 11-21-2019 06:54 PM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Yea, this is what this forum is all about people with problems and issues.
It's not fair to say that "I've seen so many postings of people having so many problems" and use that as a bar to measure. MOST people don't have issues with stealth (like me... running 50+ accounts, half 10+ years old and half a few weeks old).
So don't let the loudest mouths fool you. There's ALWAYS be issues and we have the best members here on the internet who know what to do or they'll come up with something to fix the issues which I have seen many times over. |
| Redman | 11-21-2019 07:52 PM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashmoney9999
(Post 1048859)
I'll address some of these concerns, as well as the one on other threads, since I have a bit of eBay experience in general, and with stealth accounts later, since 2004.
In my opinion, eBay isn't any harder to use now than it always has been. However, eBay has always been hard to use for the most part. eBay has created a unique situation where it became the only popular auction site but also amassed a large security apparatus.
First, no one should be calling the customer service phone number. The people you end up connecting to are not interested in helping you and may make it worse. If you need to contact eBay at all, use Twitter or Facebook. I've had problems solved through those venues, and you also get their responses in writing. I have personally never received any actual help over the phone. Also, I've created a list of eBay email address, all which come from either their website or emails. I've used this method to fix certain problems when I could not get help any other way. (In general you should limit contact with eBay. They are known to retaliate against contacting customer service too often or for reason they don't like).
Second, new seller accounts can't be used to list items right away. You need to build up a couple of weeks or more of other non-selling activity. For example, this would include buying or bidding on items, searching for items in a realistic manner, updating account information, reading messages, responding to random surveys etc. It's been like this for a long time. If you try to list an item immediately, it will allow it, but you will be banned within about 30 to 40 minutes by an automated system.
eBay's security system is essentially the same as it always has been just with some changes. Their security setup is probably wildly expensive at this point. I'm also guessing that it affects quite a lot of people other than just 'stealth' accounts. If eBay uses Lexisnexis, there are ways to counter this. 1.) You can sign up for a free trial of Lexis Advance. Just search on Google; with a bit of social engineering, you should be able to get a trial. Then you could can search the database with the identity you have. 2.) You can suppress the information on Lexisnexis for the identity you've created. Search on Google for lexisnexis information suppression, and it will give you a form to mail in. For the reason for the request, only certain ones are permitted, such as threat of physical harm or identity theft (select one of those). Once the info is suppressed, it can't be accessed by eBay anymore. What you have to realize is that eBay doesn't follow it's own rules, so you need to changes expectations based upon that.
If eBay is having issues with valuation or profit, I think they only have themselves to blame. All third-party platforms have certain opaque policies and procedures, but eBay's policies probably impede their growth significantly. eBay customer service is known to be notoriously bad, but why? Well, there is some evidence that poor customer service leads to higher profits, including a journal article in Harvard Business Review. But in this case, I think a normally accessible customer support would be impossible for eBay to manage due to problem caused by their own policies. Their best bet is to delay answering the questions dealing with these policies as long as possible, preferably not addressing them at all. One thing I've always noticed is that their inflexibility on suspended accounts often results in eBay never receiving the fees owed on that account. I'm sure they have lost a fortune that way. Only a fundamental restructure in policy would probably solve eBay's problems long term. | Man oh man you're a wealth of knowledge, thanks for sharing! |
| lops1987 | 11-22-2019 02:56 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 One more time I will repeat. In Poland we have a service at the post office, that it is possible to pay for the packet when we open it by the postman. Thanks to that we can buy everywhere, from every local (from entire of country) announcement and it is safely. Why as the USA and perhaps other, big, strong countries didn't invent such a large country this way of trivial way.
Thanks to that for one solution the trade is developing very well and no big commercial portal is needed.
In the USA or for example in England (of England I am not reliable) it's impossible. Therefore sellers this way are persecuted because cannot send and if only the purchaser paid at the receipt and still checked the letter. |
| lops1987 | 11-22-2019 03:22 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 I use translator when I must write a lot of sentences, ihihi :]
Yes, Cash on Delivery but with option opening the packet before the payment.
Brilliant simple solution of the problem. I am buying where I want in Poland, the seller is sending me with such an option and everyone are happy.
Thanks to this one option life of the purchaser second hand things became much, much simpler |
| phaz0rz | 11-22-2019 07:35 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 COD was huge in the US 60-70 years ago, but it seems to have run it's course. USA doesn't have the moral standards for that type of thing anymore. Sellers would take huge losses since half their buyers wouldn't pay. |
| lops1987 | 11-22-2019 08:22 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 uuuu it is interesting
In the interest of Ebay it is so that there are no option of paying at the receipt and checking the letter. In my opinion they would lose many million very much annually, however average people would make a profit. And there would be far more freedom in this respect. Generally speaking such a company as Ebay is exercising from taking away the part of the freedom of choice from the ordinary men.
In the world in such a way that he is always with what more option all the more a man is free. If companies form own law always create them so that the man doesn't feel free in order can limit the man.
I simply want to send a parcel taking a risk, it ow I am deciding whether I am taking a risk rather than the system, not companies which created this system.
It is I am supposed to have a freedom in the risk assessment rather than if only the system only assessed the risk and drove me.
Its true FREEDOM :] |
| agent006140 | 11-22-2019 08:51 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Anyone who is not happy with Ebay -whether it is listing restriction,payment options,or fees should find another venue to sell.
Where can you find a venue where you can list from home,open 24/7 and your goods are visible to potential buyers all over the world?
I have shipped to countries like S Africa,Egypt,Israel,Canada,UK,Ireland,Germany,Fran ce,AUstria,Switzerland,Norway,Sweden,Denmark,Japan ,HK,Singapore,Malaysia,Indonesia,India,China,Austr alia,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Saudi Arabia,Peru,New Zealand,South Korea,Russia,Spain.
99.9 % success rate in 25 years ! |
| Charles_Degra | 11-22-2019 10:15 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1050583)
Anyone who is not happy with Ebay -whether it is listing restriction,payment options,or fees should find another venue to sell.
Where can you find a venue where you can list from home,open 24/7 and your goods are visible to potential buyers all over the world?
I have shipped to countries like S Africa,Egypt,Israel,Canada,UK,Ireland,Germany,Fran ce,AUstria,Switzerland,Norway,Sweden,Denmark,Japan ,HK,Singapore,Malaysia,Indonesia,India,China,Austr alia,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Saudi Arabia,Peru,New Zealand,South Korea,Russia,Spain.
99.9 % success rate in 25 years ! | thats true, only problem is ebay has no big enough competitor to compete with them so they can do as they please |
| phaz0rz | 11-22-2019 10:26 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles_Degra
(Post 1050603)
thats true, only problem is ebay has no big enough competitor to compete with them so they can do as they please | They actually have tons of competition and they're losing more and more of the e-commerce market share each year. :lol: |
| agent006140 | 11-22-2019 12:52 PM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Ebay does have competitors,AMZN,WMT,COSTCO,WAYFAIR,MACY,KOHLS ,hOME DEPOT ,ETSY and more.
What Ebay has is price,if you need something light and small,you can get them on EBay and pay little shipping and save you a trip to a physical store,and used items which seller want to rid of,we all have plenty of like new shoes,clothes,bags we dont need.
But for bulky ,heavy items,Ebay sellers cannot afford free shipping,I bought toaster/oven from WMT ,$35 and free shipping,Ebay sellers are selling beatup version with $35 shipping,who would you buy from? |
| Lucynda | 12-01-2019 08:25 PM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by Redman
(Post 1050463)
Man oh man you're a wealth of knowledge, thanks for sharing! | Right!!! I just saved that info into google docs. I have always bought my accounts up until now so I don't really have any experience in this. How about aged accounts. Get a USPS box, open the account with it. Buy some cheap crap from China (I love the cheap costume jewelry). Then try to sell on it in 6 months or so? Has anyone tried that? |
| 0nelove | 12-02-2019 12:40 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Lmao eBay can be considered a monopoly depending on who you ask.
It's like Andrew Yang said:
We need to be realistic that [enabling] competition doesn’t solve all the problems,” he said. “It’s not like any of us wants to use the fourth best navigation app… There’s a reason why no one is using Bing today… Sorry, Microsoft. It’s true.”
They are the best because people are too lazy to ditch eBay and switch depop or poshmark.
But it could also be flipped, why waste my time when they don't have 1/1000 of the buyers eBay has.
Back to the first sentence. It's a matter of opinion and I personally think it's a monopoly due to the competition isn't a close similar result
You can easily quit shopping at Walmart and go to Target.
You can't quit eBay auctions and do auctions on Amazon. |
| fingerblast | 12-02-2019 07:19 PM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackLion
(Post 1044851)
Who needs ebay in 2019!? | What's the alternative? |
| SaiJin | 12-02-2019 08:31 PM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 There really isn't one that's like eBay, the other one would be Amazon. |
Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1052712)
There really isn't one that's like eBay, the other one would be Amazon. | That's true based on the volume and buyer exposure :( |
| lops1987 | 12-03-2019 05:15 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 next my disquisitions :]
Ebay is an American company and is acting precisely as the American system, in America the 80% of convicteds is fairly and 20% unfairly. Exactly the same Ebay is acting. the 20% of withheld accounts is unfairly and 80% fairly. In Europe it is unacceptable. Perhaps the 5% of convicteds is unfairly. It is exactly this huge difference.
now the example as Ebay is able to cheat: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Adobe-Creat...gAAOSwGmZcDldm
This sentence is best: "I've now sold out of the box and discs so have lowered the price and am now selling the download and full retail license number" Ihihihihi :]
the seller is selling the licence to Adobe Master Collection CS6 without the registration in an account Adobe that is illegally. He is simply selling keys which aren't a property of this seller. He is probably selling a few, a dozen or so keys which he has for free and is earning on one art about USD 400. is selling these keys monthly 30-40. And so he is earning about 15.000USD monthly!!! Yes, 15,000, it is not a mistake!!! Ebay isn't hanging it, Paypal isn't suspending him. However if somebody without the company liked to sell at once withholding the account on Ebay or on Paypal or at the same time has. It is exactly this legendary Ebay/Paypal justice :]
Adobe isn't interested in it, because isn't selling keys to seven years, there is a cloud now.
Buyerss want only a key and if only he acted, therefore has a 100% of comments or else the key will always apply.
The seller simply found a remedy how to earn huge money but Ebay instead of it banned, nothing is doing. The seller quickly worked the subject of cheating out.
it is possible to earn on ebayu cheating, for months, for years? earning annually about 150,000 usd net? Certainly it is possible
Ebay and Paypal are an evil... or ideal place it of earning on frauds Iiiiihihiihi :] |
| agent006140 | 12-03-2019 08:56 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 A recent thread-someone is selling MSFT keys,how does she do it? |
| @NasterXchange | 12-04-2019 06:17 AM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1052712)
There really isn't one that's like eBay, the other one would be Amazon. | exactly, and Amazon has a completely different concept and does not work with Paypal.
I don't see really an alternative for now but I believe there will be in the future. |
Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1052765)
A recent thread-someone is selling MSFT keys,how does she do it? | Trial and error - and some luck |
| fingerblast | 12-10-2019 03:09 PM | Re: RIP eBay 2019 Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyShackelford
(Post 1044765)
It's your creation method champ. Just because it worked before, doesn't mean it works today. Plenty of people making accounts with no issues. | What do you suggest that we do? I'm running into the same issue. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50 AM. | |
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