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dazller_the_great 03-24-2020 06:53 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneManShow (Post 1079450)
You can use the chat option, I reinstated many account using it.
The agent will ask you the regular questions, if you are gonna do it very often so just copy/paste the answers because the agent uses same questions at the same order.

really ?
is it that easy ?
do they ask you for ID or any papers ?

dazller_the_great 03-24-2020 06:56 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1079573)
Not true.

For verification purposes you can use any number.

:eek::eek::eek::shocked::shocked:
really ?????
you mean like google when creating the gmail ?????
gmail can use any number you find , it doesnt have to be the same country , lol

StealthLannister 03-24-2020 10:54 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazller_the_great (Post 1079773)
:eek::eek::eek::shocked::shocked:
really ?????
you mean like google when creating the gmail ?????
gmail can use any number you find , it doesnt have to be the same country , lol

True. I'm using my usa numbers to verify UK ebay accounts withouth problems :)

sax4 03-25-2020 07:43 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazller_the_great (Post 1079773)
:eek::eek::eek::shocked::shocked:
really ?????
you mean like google when creating the gmail ?????
gmail can use any number you find , it doesnt have to be the same country , lol

Gmail, ebay, even PayPal.

One little secret to let out of the bag

HurricaneHuntr 03-25-2020 07:52 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
I've been doing testing over the past week. With this stuff that's been going on.. creating the account, aging it for 5-7 days . And then i list an item, so far the item appears immediately. So far, within the first hour it's not suspended..We'll see today whether i start getting suspended emails or not, but so far... Creating the seller account and aging it, has bypassed the immediate suspension issue, but that may come back later today , as i know sometimes it takes 24 hours, and also maybe it is normal still to be suspended within first few days. But the initial good news is, not listing immediately has stopped the immediate suspension.

Pineappleexpress 03-25-2020 08:32 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Update every hour how it's going! :)

ckev26 03-25-2020 12:01 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthLannister (Post 1079844)
True. I'm using my usa numbers to verify UK ebay accounts withouth problems :)

So as long as you don't run into a problem you should be fine,
All you are doing with phone verification is confirming it's you and nothing more except raising a flag on the other side as you have just confirmed you are a none UK resident
proceed with caution as problems may lie ahead

sax4 03-25-2020 12:35 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ckev26 (Post 1080023)
So as long as you don't run into a problem you should be fine,
All you are doing with phone verification is confirming it's you and nothing more except raising a flag on the other side as you have just confirmed you are a none UK resident
proceed with caution as problems may lie ahead

Using a non UK number for Ebay doesn't show that you're not a UK resident. If Ebay had a problem with it why do they offer you to use a number from pretty much any country in the world?

Then again, in case you speak to CS then you may want a plausible reason for the different country Sim, you could say that you work in both countries for example.

I generally tend to open accounts with whatever country sims I have, I travel a lot. Then when the account is running well I add UK sims

dazller_the_great 04-06-2020 05:46 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 1079972)
I've been doing testing over the past week. With this stuff that's been going on.. creating the account, aging it for 5-7 days . And then i list an item, so far the item appears immediately. So far, within the first hour it's not suspended..We'll see today whether i start getting suspended emails or not, but so far... Creating the seller account and aging it, has bypassed the immediate suspension issue, but that may come back later today , as i know sometimes it takes 24 hours, and also maybe it is normal still to be suspended within first few days. But the initial good news is, not listing immediately has stopped the immediate suspension.

i got many account suspended in 7 to 10 days , i didnt even touch those accounts after creating them , lol 7 days this is really too long and got the suspend slap after i thought it just survived

dazller_the_great 04-06-2020 05:48 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1080030)
Using a non UK number for Ebay doesn't show that you're not a UK resident. If Ebay had a problem with it why do they offer you to use a number from pretty much any country in the world?

Then again, in case you speak to CS then you may want a plausible reason for the different country Sim, you could say that you work in both countries for example.

I generally tend to open accounts with whatever country sims I have, I travel a lot. Then when the account is running well I add UK sims

thats an amazing hint , thanks :)

dazller_the_great 04-06-2020 06:08 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 1079972)
I've been doing testing over the past week. With this stuff that's been going on.. creating the account, aging it for 5-7 days . And then i list an item, so far the item appears immediately. So far, within the first hour it's not suspended..We'll see today whether i start getting suspended emails or not, but so far... Creating the seller account and aging it, has bypassed the immediate suspension issue, but that may come back later today , as i know sometimes it takes 24 hours, and also maybe it is normal still to be suspended within first few days. But the initial good news is, not listing immediately has stopped the immediate suspension.

yes , listing immediately have been proved to get you suspended , ebay simply dont like the new customer that looks too familiar with selling on ebay , they will suspect you are a returning suspended professional seller ,
i still think their system is retarded because most of the time they suspend the wrong person, and the one who escape is the professional thief who have been scamming the sellers and asking for refund after he receive the product , pathetic system that ebay have

asmallredfox 04-08-2020 09:48 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 1079972)
I've been doing testing over the past week. With this stuff that's been going on.. creating the account, aging it for 5-7 days . And then i list an item, so far the item appears immediately. So far, within the first hour it's not suspended..We'll see today whether i start getting suspended emails or not, but so far... Creating the seller account and aging it, has bypassed the immediate suspension issue, but that may come back later today , as i know sometimes it takes 24 hours, and also maybe it is normal still to be suspended within first few days. But the initial good news is, not listing immediately has stopped the immediate suspension.

Does it work well?

WWhale 04-08-2020 05:25 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asmallredfox (Post 1083572)
Does it work well?

Yes it works pretty well if you age the account for some days. Now aging accounts is a must.

Bigblackdog 04-08-2020 05:33 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WWhale (Post 1083683)
Yes it works pretty well if you age the account for some days. Now aging accounts is a must.

Rubbish - non stealthers do not age their accounts

haiderekarar13 04-08-2020 11:22 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1073379)
Websites and processors can now detect if you're using a VM - I don't know if ebay are doing this but its a possibility. One easy to identify is your internal IP(easy to disable) being a VM related one … though this isn't the only way sites detect VM's and disabling it might cause as many problems

Try using something other than IPburger - IPburger is targeted at ebayers so the IP range may be a flag to ebay - using any data centre IP isn't the best idea... I'll probably be reprimanded for telling you this on this forum :pop2:

Really theres no need to use VM's. I've got over 20 accounts operating from my regular windows desktop. Just don't forget to switch IP's between access.

All in all ebay want you to buy/sell - but if you give them a big red flag they will act on it

If you dont mind could you explain how you switch ip’s on windows desktop?

abidmir51 04-10-2020 01:51 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
It’s happening now a days. They need to verify some details.please call them and I hope so they will reinstate after few easy questions

Karlis96 04-12-2020 02:33 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
I have tried everything.
Change FF settings
Change VM settings when setting up Windows
Change mobile phone number provider
Change VCC
Change dongle, wifi router, mobile hotspot
Change browsers

Still have suspension after 1 listing. And in chat support i have never been reinstated of about 20 all my suspended accounts.

Last step what i want to test is completely new laptop, without VM.

There is so many opinions about suspensions - some of users say it is normal, some say no it is not should be like that cos you get suspension right after 1st listing.

I will update here what will be if i will not use VM.

HolaAmigo 04-12-2020 02:37 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1084818)
I have tried everything.
Change FF settings
Change VM settings when setting up Windows
Change mobile phone number provider
Change VCC
Change dongle, wifi router, mobile hotspot
Change browsers

Still have suspension after 1 listing. And in chat support i have never been reinstated of about 20 all my suspended accounts.

Last step what i want to test is completely new laptop, without VM.

There is so many opinions about suspensions - some of users say it is normal, some say no it is not should be like that cos you get suspension right after 1st listing.

I will update here what will be if i will not use VM.

I'll save you some time: Tried on a clean Win 10 laptop with no VMs and I'm still ****canned after the first item.

xovian 04-12-2020 02:45 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
What are you selling?

HolaAmigo 04-12-2020 02:48 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
I listed a random kitchen appliance. Yes, it's branded but it's not a brand that I've ever heard of (or would think) as being high fraud or a target of counterfeiting.

Karlis96 04-12-2020 02:48 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HolaAmigo (Post 1084820)
I'll save you some time: Tried on a clean Win 10 laptop with no VMs and I'm still ****canned after the first item.


Fu****

Then where is problem ?

Im still know persons who saying me cos they don't know what is that “ suspension after 1st listing”

I don't know what els i can change in system.

In my case ebay bot is suspending account, because not earlier or later than 30min after 1st listing account becomes suspended.

HolaAmigo 04-12-2020 02:50 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1084828)
Fu****

Then where is problem ?

Im still know persons who saying me cos they don't know what is that “ suspension after 1st listing”

I don't know what els i can change in system.

In my case ebay bot is suspending account, because not earlier or later than 30min after 1st listing account becomes suspended.

It's gotta be the quality of the information we supplied. For me the suspension came several days after the auction started.

Karlis96 04-12-2020 02:51 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HolaAmigo (Post 1084829)
It's gotta be the quality of the information we supplied. For me the suspension came several days after the auction started.

It is strange !!!!

I dont know what bad quality can be there !

xovian 04-12-2020 02:56 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Try not branded stuff.

Karlis96 04-12-2020 11:56 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xovian (Post 1084833)
Try not branded stuff.


You think im changed all system of VM and i dont know cos i cant list branded things ? 😀😀😀

Thanks for advice anyway ! But there is something els what ebay doesn't likes.

dantigun 04-13-2020 04:42 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Well, I'll save you guys some more time. Lists of stuff I've tried and still got suspended after listing.

1. New machine with VM, without VM
2. Old machine with VM, without VM
3. FF/Chrome/other browsers
4. Virtual profiles/Windows profiles/FF portable
5. Stock images/clicked images/exif removed images
6. Fully verified PP/VCC verified only
7. Same country PP/another country PP
8. WebGL enabled/disabled/Spoofed
9. Webrtc enabled/disabled
10. DC IPs/Residential IPs/4G IPs
11. Real number/Virtual number
12. Paypal linked to ebay/not linked
13. Individual account/sole proprietor/govt/corp
13. More **** but can't recall

The result is the account gets suspended after first listing. I am not new to this, have created over 200 accs in the past. This has been happening lately.

glacier922 04-13-2020 04:45 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
ip and phone numbers?

Karlis96 04-13-2020 05:43 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1084969)
ip and phone numbers?

Please check one post back from yours and pay attention to point 10.

He clearly state cos he was changed IP.

Karlis96 04-13-2020 05:49 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dantigun (Post 1084968)
Well, I'll save you guys some more time. Lists of stuff I've tried and still got suspended after listing.

1. New machine with VM, without VM
2. Old machine with VM, without VM
3. FF/Chrome/other browsers
4. Virtual profiles/Windows profiles/FF portable
5. Stock images/clicked images/exif removed images
6. Fully verified PP/VCC verified only
7. Same country PP/another country PP
8. WebGL enabled/disabled/Spoofed
9. Webrtc enabled/disabled
10. DC IPs/Residential IPs/4G IPs
11. Real number/Virtual number
12. Paypal linked to ebay/not linked
13. Individual account/sole proprietor/govt/corp
13. More **** but can't recall

The result is the account gets suspended after first listing. I am not new to this, have created over 200 accs in the past. This has been happening lately.

I can add some thing from my side what i have tested.

I have tested different VM's - No any result.

I have changed 3 internet providers 2 of them was mobile and one residential IP provider. - Nothing changed.

Also interesting thing is that cos until your account is not suspended you can go in Help -> Email Us - > About suspended account.
But when you account will be suspended you will not be able to write email to eBay about your account. And message will be " This communication line is not available right now "

I do not believe to those who saying my account was not limited after first listing. Ok, even your account is aged or with feedback's. And in my opinion even feedback's not helping in this situation

aymanousaym 04-13-2020 11:11 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1073379)
Websites and processors can now detect if you're using a VM - I don't know if ebay are doing this but its a possibility. One easy to identify is your internal IP(easy to disable) being a VM related one … though this isn't the only way sites detect VM's and disabling it might cause as many problems

Try using something other than IPburger - IPburger is targeted at ebayers so the IP range may be a flag to ebay - using any data centre IP isn't the best idea... I'll probably be reprimanded for telling you this on this forum :pop2:

Really theres no need to use VM's. I've got over 20 accounts operating from my regular windows desktop. Just don't forget to switch IP's between access.

All in all ebay want you to buy/sell - but if you give them a big red flag they will act on it

what browser are you using, firefox ?? for all the account, because all firefox browser in one computer have the same fingerprint signature and also the same WebGL Report Hash and WebGL Image Hash for all users,
can you please confirm

⊗⊗⊗⊗nstein 04-13-2020 12:58 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
So here is the answer:

Hello XX,

Thank you for contacting eBay Trust and Safety regarding the status of your account. XX. Rest assured that I am more than willing to have this matter resolved for you.

I have looked into the details of your account and I want to assure you that you have done nothing wrong and we are not questioning your capability to pay for your items. I want to ease your worries as I want you to know that the suspension was placed as we want to verify your account details and registration inputs before you continue trading on the site. Please be advised as well that all new members experience this as this is a part of our process to make sure that all our members' accounts are secured before buying and selling online.

XX, as I was able to verify your account details, I am more than happy to inform you that I have now reinstated your account and you will now be able to access this and use it for buying and selling normally.

Lastly, please make sure to link a verified PayPal account to your eBay account in order to prevent this from being suspended again.

I am glad I was able to help you with your concern today and I wish you all the best in eBay in the future. Have a great day ahead!

Thanks,

eBay



So I guess the good times are over. You need to verify now all accounts.

⊗⊗⊗⊗nstein 04-13-2020 01:05 PM

Re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Please be advised as well that all new members experience this as this is a part of our process to make sure that all our members' accounts are secured before buying and selling online.

SaiJin 04-13-2020 01:17 PM

Re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
No, whenever something like this happened, it's due to account creation and or activity on the account.

I have never had to call in or suspended even a week ago creating an account.

IPburger is still the best one to use. They even have a residential IP service now which you can use to make new accounts safelty

SaiJin 04-13-2020 01:19 PM

Re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ⊗⊗⊗⊗nstein (Post 1085122)
Please be advised as well that all new members experience this as this is a part of our process to make sure that all our members' accounts are secured before buying and selling online.

Yea... no....

Try not to listen to everything they said.
Remember why they suspended you in the first place... it's all bullocks reasoning.

bjammin 04-13-2020 01:25 PM

Re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ⊗⊗⊗⊗nstein (Post 1085122)
Please be advised as well that all new members experience this as this is a part of our process to make sure that all our members' accounts are secured before buying and selling online.

Yeah, they say this, but this is not true at all. eBay and PayPal are constantly giving cookie cutter responses and they are constantly not being truthful. This is just another example. It has been like this for many years, nothing new

Karlis96 04-13-2020 01:30 PM

Re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ⊗⊗⊗⊗nstein (Post 1085120)
So here is the answer:

Hello XX,

Thank you for contacting eBay Trust and Safety regarding the status of your account. XX. Rest assured that I am more than willing to have this matter resolved for you.

I have looked into the details of your account and I want to assure you that you have done nothing wrong and we are not questioning your capability to pay for your items. I want to ease your worries as I want you to know that the suspension was placed as we want to verify your account details and registration inputs before you continue trading on the site. Please be advised as well that all new members experience this as this is a part of our process to make sure that all our members' accounts are secured before buying and selling online.

XX, as I was able to verify your account details, I am more than happy to inform you that I have now reinstated your account and you will now be able to access this and use it for buying and selling normally.

Lastly, please make sure to link a verified PayPal account to your eBay account in order to prevent this from being suspended again.

I am glad I was able to help you with your concern today and I wish you all the best in eBay in the future. Have a great day ahead!

Thanks,

eBay



So I guess the good times are over. You need to verify now all accounts.

Yes they answer like that, but one time they can reinstate with same system but next time they will not. I dont know what is difference in their end

Karlis96 04-13-2020 01:33 PM

Re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1085129)
Yea... no....

Try not to listen to everything they said.
Remember why they suspended you in the first place... it's all bullocks reasoning.

SaiJin you are experienced member here, you read all these post how we creating accounts - so the question is we doing something different than you except IPBurger ?
This is secret how to right create account ? Then stealth book is throwaway. Because there will be no answer on this question how SaiJin doesnt get suspension and all others have !!!

Maybe you can give some advice ?

Omani 04-13-2020 04:17 PM

Re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
There are numerous ways for a site to detect a VM. You can't make a VM look like a real machine, and if you try and succeed, the modifications will be equally suspicious.

haiderekarar13 04-13-2020 04:41 PM

Re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1073379)
Websites and processors can now detect if you're using a VM - I don't know if ebay are doing this but its a possibility. One easy to identify is your internal IP(easy to disable) being a VM related one … though this isn't the only way sites detect VM's and disabling it might cause as many problems

Try using something other than IPburger - IPburger is targeted at ebayers so the IP range may be a flag to ebay - using any data centre IP isn't the best idea... I'll probably be reprimanded for telling you this on this forum :pop2:

Really theres no need to use VM's. I've got over 20 accounts operating from my regular windows desktop. Just don't forget to switch IP's between access.

All in all ebay want you to buy/sell - but if you give them a big red flag they will act on it

Are you using ip’s from id burger ?
To operate all those accounts ?


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