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dazller_the_great 02-28-2020 12:00 AM

all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
i am facing hard time lately with ipburger
every account i create when im using ipburger , it gets suspended , even though i do it in a fresh created VM , and clean installation of ipburger vpn and all security checks done properly almost 50 fingerprint and webrtc and dns and every thing you could think of , www.browserleaks.com
does any one have an explanation for that please

dazller_the_great 02-28-2020 02:47 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
any one ?
its really getting very frustrating lately with ebay aggressive attitude ,

intercom12 02-28-2020 04:27 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
1 . Was it after you list an item?

2. Have you called them after suspended?

ebaychic2013 02-28-2020 12:37 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Can confirm most of my accounts are getting suspended too

slokor 02-28-2020 12:40 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Before or after you list an item?

paulfoltyn 02-28-2020 01:10 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Websites and processors can now detect if you're using a VM - I don't know if ebay are doing this but its a possibility. One easy to identify is your internal IP(easy to disable) being a VM related one … though this isn't the only way sites detect VM's and disabling it might cause as many problems

Try using something other than IPburger - IPburger is targeted at ebayers so the IP range may be a flag to ebay - using any data centre IP isn't the best idea... I'll probably be reprimanded for telling you this on this forum :pop2:

Really theres no need to use VM's. I've got over 20 accounts operating from my regular windows desktop. Just don't forget to switch IP's between access.

All in all ebay want you to buy/sell - but if you give them a big red flag they will act on it

paulfoltyn 02-28-2020 01:11 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1073373)
Before or after you list an item?

Does this make a difference? Not being sarcastic, just interested to know what the different out outcomes suggest?

PepsiCoin 02-28-2020 01:18 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazller_the_great (Post 1073220)
any one ?
its really getting very frustrating lately with ebay aggressive attitude ,

when you create the accounts. are you listing right away or are you waiting for some days. what I do is browse e bay and add items to my cart and sometimes I'll call e bay and ask them questions.

OneManShow 02-28-2020 01:23 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1073379)
Websites and processors can now detect if you're using a VM - I don't know if ebay are doing this but its a possibility. One easy to identify is your internal IP(easy to disable) being a VM related one … though this isn't the only way sites detect VM's and disabling it might cause as many problems

Try using something other than IPburger - IPburger is targeted at ebayers so the IP range may be a flag to ebay - using any data centre IP isn't the best idea... I'll probably be reprimanded for telling you this on this forum :pop2:

Really theres no need to use VM's. I've got over 20 accounts operating from my regular windows desktop. Just don't forget to switch IP's between access.

All in all ebay want you to buy/sell - but if you give them a big red flag they will act on it

It's not about the internal IP, when you run a VM there are some settings that any software can tell if you're running a VM or not (I assume browsers have access to that).
I know how to fix it, so when you run a VM it will behave as a "normal" computer and won't run in a virtual environment.
I'm gonna test it and give an exact answer whether it works or not, as far as I know eBay has several factors when you create an account and it keeps suspending my accounts.

dazller_the_great 02-29-2020 07:27 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1073223)
Like waiting for everyone to get out of bed ( most posters are in the US and still fast asleep) I hope you're being patient with your ebay accounts.


Are you doing anything with them once created or are they getting instantly suspended?

actually i do nothing , i just let them alone , to cool down , lol
i just keep checking the email , and after 30 minutes exactly i get the suspend slap

dazller_the_great 02-29-2020 07:29 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by intercom12 (Post 1073242)
1 . Was it after you list an item?

2. Have you called them after suspended?

actually no , before i do any thing at all ,
and no i dont call them ,

dazller_the_great 02-29-2020 07:30 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1073373)
Before or after you list an item?

before listing any thing , actually before doing any thing at all

dazller_the_great 02-29-2020 07:38 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1073379)
Websites and processors can now detect if you're using a VM - I don't know if ebay are doing this but its a possibility. One easy to identify is your internal IP(easy to disable) being a VM related one … though this isn't the only way sites detect VM's and disabling it might cause as many problems

Try using something other than IPburger - IPburger is targeted at ebayers so the IP range may be a flag to ebay - using any data centre IP isn't the best idea... I'll probably be reprimanded for telling you this on this forum :pop2:

Really theres no need to use VM's. I've got over 20 accounts operating from my regular windows desktop. Just don't forget to switch IP's between access.

All in all ebay want you to buy/sell - but if you give them a big red flag they will act on it

wow , i didnt think it could be that simple ,
thanks a lot for the info , i will stop using VM

dazller_the_great 02-29-2020 07:42 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1073380)
Does this make a difference? Not being sarcastic, just interested to know what the different out outcomes suggest?

actually i know about the first listing thing , they manually check your account , its like a second exam you need to pass

dazller_the_great 02-29-2020 07:43 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PepsiCoin (Post 1073383)
when you create the accounts. are you listing right away or are you waiting for some days. what I do is browse e bay and add items to my cart and sometimes I'll call e bay and ask them questions.

that was a good idea , and i do it some times , but it didnt do any difference in my case

dazller_the_great 02-29-2020 07:49 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneManShow (Post 1073386)
It's not about the internal IP, when you run a VM there are some settings that any software can tell if you're running a VM or not (I assume browsers have access to that).
I know how to fix it, so when you run a VM it will behave as a "normal" computer and won't run in a virtual environment.
I'm gonna test it and give an exact answer whether it works or not, as far as I know eBay has several factors when you create an account and it keeps suspending my accounts.

you are right about that , the drivers of the GPU and some other stuff you will see it clearly in the device manager saying VM , and any browserleaks test website can detect it easily , VMware that i use installs a buch of software to make the windows in the vm run smoothly , i do uninstall it , which leave it without and vm drivers that looks clearly suspecious , but even that is not enough to solve the problem , i still get suspended ,

dazller_the_great 02-29-2020 07:54 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1073379)
Websites and processors can now detect if you're using a VM - I don't know if ebay are doing this but its a possibility. One easy to identify is your internal IP(easy to disable) being a VM related one … though this isn't the only way sites detect VM's and disabling it might cause as many problems

Try using something other than IPburger - IPburger is targeted at ebayers so the IP range may be a flag to ebay - using any data centre IP isn't the best idea... I'll probably be reprimanded for telling you this on this forum :pop2:

Really theres no need to use VM's. I've got over 20 accounts operating from my regular windows desktop. Just don't forget to switch IP's between access.

All in all ebay want you to buy/sell - but if you give them a big red flag they will act on it

can you tell me what type of ip's you use , i tried ipburger with no luck , it gets easily suspended after few minutes ,i dont know if its the VM problem still , or is it the ipburger webrtc leak in firefox that i found it clearly , or is it the service running in windows 10 that it leaking your dns ,

sax4 02-29-2020 07:58 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Don't create accounts with VPN and your success rate will be much higher. One the account is up and running then you may use VPN

As Paul said, there is no need to use VM, I operate multiple accounts just with portable broswer folders

Pandoras_box 02-29-2020 08:33 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazller_the_great (Post 1073534)
wow , i didnt think it could be that simple ,
thanks a lot for the info , i will stop using VM

Don't be so quick. A false diagnosis is just as bad as an undiagnosed problem.

You're more likely to be suspended for other reasons such as:
account creation method, IP, VCC, or even using some online solution for phone numbers.

One way to know what's taking down your accounts is to try these:

1. Make a list of all the items or solutions it takes you to string your stealth account together.
2. You'd need to create several new accounts to equal the number of items on the list above.
3. With the creation of each account, change a thing or solution from your list and use an alternate instead.

For example,

If your list consists of IP, VCC, Phone Number, email, VM and Browser.

Account 1 should only change IP.
Account 2 should use the new IP solution + new VCC solution.
Same for subsequent accounts until you iterate the entire list.

If only one account goes down, you'd have figured out what the cause is.

If two pr more accounts are affected then make a list of items from those two accounts and repeat the process.

It might be tedious but speculating is worse.

rsot 02-29-2020 08:35 AM

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OneManShow 02-29-2020 08:37 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazller_the_great (Post 1073537)
you are right about that , the drivers of the GPU and some other stuff you will see it clearly in the device manager saying VM , and any browserleaks test website can detect it easily , VMware that i use installs a buch of software to make the windows in the vm run smoothly , i do uninstall it , which leave it without and vm drivers that looks clearly suspecious , but even that is not enough to solve the problem , i still get suspended ,

You are right about the GPU, but it's not the only factor.
I know it because I had to develop a software and I had to prevent it to run in a VM, I can tell you that you can modify VM's configuration file and make it run as a normal environment, I will try it very soon so right now I cannot tell you the exact factors but GPU is one of them for sure.

hamza00ham 03-01-2020 02:23 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1073379)
Websites and processors can now detect if you're using a VM - I don't know if ebay are doing this but its a possibility. One easy to identify is your internal IP(easy to disable) being a VM related one … though this isn't the only way sites detect VM's and disabling it might cause as many problems

Try using something other than IPburger - IPburger is targeted at ebayers so the IP range may be a flag to ebay - using any data centre IP isn't the best idea... I'll probably be reprimanded for telling you this on this forum :pop2:

Really theres no need to use VM's. I've got over 20 accounts operating from my regular windows desktop. Just don't forget to switch IP's between access.

All in all ebay want you to buy/sell - but if you give them a big red flag they will act on it

how can u manage all these accs in just desktop ? do u use any software that help

dazller_the_great 03-04-2020 08:57 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1073540)
Don't create accounts with VPN and your success rate will be much higher. One the account is up and running then you may use VPN

As Paul said, there is no need to use VM, I operate multiple accounts just with portable broswer folders

thanks for the hint , its really helpful ,
but there is one thing i wonder about , im in korea ,and want to create UK account ,
how can this be , they will detect korean ip , if i didnt use vpn while creating ,
do you have an idea about this ?

dazller_the_great 03-04-2020 09:10 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1073543)
Don't be so quick. A false diagnosis is just as bad as an undiagnosed problem.

You're more likely to be suspended for other reasons such as:
account creation method, IP, VCC, or even using some online solution for phone numbers.

One way to know what's taking down your accounts is to try these:

1. Make a list of all the items or solutions it takes you to string your stealth account together.
2. You'd need to create several new accounts to equal the number of items on the list above.
3. With the creation of each account, change a thing or solution from your list and use an alternate instead.

For example,

If your list consists of IP, VCC, Phone Number, email, VM and Browser.

Account 1 should only change IP.
Account 2 should use the new IP solution + new VCC solution.
Same for subsequent accounts until you iterate the entire list.

If only one account goes down, you'd have figured out what the cause is.

If two pr more accounts are affected then make a list of items from those two accounts and repeat the process.

It might be tedious but speculating is worse.

this is perfect method of diagnosing , i already started it , and i started to get to a point that the ip is the culprit , i uses different ip and worked , ipburger always failed me , and all other average vpn's and proxies

dazller_the_great 03-04-2020 09:16 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneManShow (Post 1073548)
You are right about the GPU, but it's not the only factor.
I know it because I had to develop a software and I had to prevent it to run in a VM, I can tell you that you can modify VM's configuration file and make it run as a normal environment, I will try it very soon so right now I cannot tell you the exact factors but GPU is one of them for sure.

thanks for sharing the info , that might be really helpful ,
there is some thing that is related to the subject , amazon stealth accounts creators usually use vm, that at least what i read around the internet , is that giving any information about the whole thing , they say amazon is the hardest to trick , they use the strongest security and detection systems ,

and about the vm configuration thing , there is some options in the vmware 15.5 that allows you to turn on and off the cpu virtualization usage , does that have to do with the configuration thing ?

asmallredfox 03-08-2020 03:28 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazller_the_great (Post 1074759)
thanks for sharing the info , that might be really helpful ,
there is some thing that is related to the subject , amazon stealth accounts creators usually use vm, that at least what i read around the internet , is that giving any information about the whole thing , they say amazon is the hardest to trick , they use the strongest security and detection systems ,

and about the vm configuration thing , there is some options in the vmware 15.5 that allows you to turn on and off the cpu virtualization usage , does that have to do with the configuration thing ?

share your expenrice if you success

OneManShow 03-08-2020 04:39 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazller_the_great (Post 1074759)
thanks for sharing the info , that might be really helpful ,
there is some thing that is related to the subject , amazon stealth accounts creators usually use vm, that at least what i read around the internet , is that giving any information about the whole thing , they say amazon is the hardest to trick , they use the strongest security and detection systems ,

and about the vm configuration thing , there is some options in the vmware 15.5 that allows you to turn on and off the cpu virtualization usage , does that have to do with the configuration thing ?

Update: I created an account using VM using same PayPal of a different account (just changed email). After 2-3 days I listed a low-risk item and been waiting for it to appear, when it did, I listed very high-risk item and the list is still alive.

I don't know if my solution was helpful, I created many accounts and eBay suspended them and this one it didn't.
To test it further, I will have to create more accounts and see if this solution works for sure.

glacier922 03-13-2020 07:10 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Are you using a USA account?

Doctor453 03-15-2020 12:22 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneManShow (Post 1075936)
Update: I created an account using VM using same PayPal of a different account (just changed email). After 2-3 days I listed a low-risk item and been waiting for it to appear, when it did, I listed very high-risk item and the list is still alive.

I don't know if my solution was helpful, I created many accounts and eBay suspended them and this one it didn't.
To test it further, I will have to create more accounts and see if this solution works for sure.

Can you clarify how exactly you made the VM run as if it was a normal environment?

Houstonboy13 03-16-2020 09:08 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
you have to call in if its suspended

dazller_the_great 03-22-2020 09:56 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asmallredfox (Post 1075764)
share your expenrice if you success

i will once i get to some thing useful

dazller_the_great 03-22-2020 09:59 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneManShow (Post 1075936)
Update: I created an account using VM using same PayPal of a different account (just changed email). After 2-3 days I listed a low-risk item and been waiting for it to appear, when it did, I listed very high-risk item and the list is still alive.

I don't know if my solution was helpful, I created many accounts and eBay suspended them and this one it didn't.
To test it further, I will have to create more accounts and see if this solution works for sure.

hmmm , this is interesting ,
but can you tell me what vm you used ?
i usually use vmware 15 , its my favorite for its ease of use,

please share your experience , if you get any success

dazller_the_great 03-22-2020 10:04 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1076998)
Are you using a USA account?

actually no , i use only UK

dazller_the_great 03-22-2020 10:06 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Houstonboy13 (Post 1077659)
you have to call in if its suspended

actually i never did this , and im not sure if i can do it ,
i stay in korea and the UK ebay needs a UK number i guess , or is it not ?
can you share info if you have

SaiJin 03-23-2020 12:32 AM

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That's correct, UK ebay needs a UK number.

OneManShow 03-23-2020 06:50 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1079275)
That's correct, UK ebay needs a UK number.

You can use the chat option, I reinstated many account using it.
The agent will ask you the regular questions, if you are gonna do it very often so just copy/paste the answers because the agent uses same questions at the same order.

sax4 03-24-2020 08:01 AM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1079275)
That's correct, UK ebay needs a UK number.

Not true.

For verification purposes you can use any number.

dazller_the_great 03-24-2020 06:49 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneManShow (Post 1075936)
Update: I created an account using VM using same PayPal of a different account (just changed email). After 2-3 days I listed a low-risk item and been waiting for it to appear, when it did, I listed very high-risk item and the list is still alive.

I don't know if my solution was helpful, I created many accounts and eBay suspended them and this one it didn't.
To test it further, I will have to create more accounts and see if this solution works for sure.

can i ask you few questions ,
the account you created is local israel account right ? or you created a different country account ?

what is the monthly selling limit you get for the Israel ebay account

dazller_the_great 03-24-2020 06:52 PM

re: all new ebay accounts gets suspended (created on VM)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1079275)
That's correct, UK ebay needs a UK number.

but you know its possible to find , so this is not a big issue in my case ,
i only struggle to get a UK ip to create UK account , specially when using a vpn is always getting me suspended


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