| | | Zetex2 | 05-23-2020 07:25 AM | Impossible to create stealths Creating stealth was always hard in the long term, because eBay algorithms constantly changing. What worked yesterday, might not work today.
But the solution was always just changing something small in the registration process, and it would work again.
I am having an issue now where I create an account, successfully list items, get suspended, and than either eBay won't reinstate my account, or they will ask for docs, I will provide docs, they will reinstate my account, than suspended me again.
I am clueless, I have tried 5 accounts, 5 different countries, none of them worked!
Is anybody else facing the same issue? accounts getting suspended over and over? (not always, just recently). |
| phaz0rz | 05-23-2020 07:27 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Yeah.. lots of people are. |
| Zetex2 | 05-23-2020 07:28 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1095384)
Yeah.. lots of people are. | Do you have any clue about what causing it?
I am suspecting now that it could be the fact the IP I am using for registeration is always changing (like mobile proxy). The DNS is the same, but maybe it triggers something in eBay. |
| phaz0rz | 05-23-2020 07:31 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths It's the fact that eBay is starting to process their own payments. It's only going to get harder and harder as managed payments is implemented worldwide.
I don't know what to tell you. I haven't made a new account in years. I'm sure the account sellers would sell you a functional account. |
| Banned_123 | 05-23-2020 07:42 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Best option is to buy some incl. VPS here on the marketplace. Works best for me. |
| aspkin | 05-23-2020 08:45 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetex2
(Post 1095386)
Do you have any clue about what causing it?
I am suspecting now that it could be the fact the IP I am using for registeration is always changing (like mobile proxy). The DNS is the same, but maybe it triggers something in eBay. | IP changing is fine.
ISP changing is not fine. |
| robjobs | 05-23-2020 06:00 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths They're making them in Linux ssh |
| Zetex2 | 05-24-2020 05:30 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by robjobs
(Post 1095501)
They're making them in Linux ssh | Do you think the OS matters? I highly doubt that.
Also using a VPS is problematic, since the ISP is not resedinital. It might work but has a lower chance of success than resedinital IP.
I am going to try using Android user-agent with mobile proxy. Maybe it would help. |
| KlugePatrik | 05-24-2020 06:34 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths My best bet is actually register Many accounts, on some they might get suspended , others get limits increases. so just spreading the risk on multiple accs, some die, some live :)
Also registering new accounts constantly helps stay fit in the process, more so having acounts with low level activity assures constant sales regardles of ban or not. You always must keep your backup accs ready. |
| dazller_the_great | 05-24-2020 08:15 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetex2
(Post 1095383)
Creating stealth was always hard in the long term, because eBay algorithms constantly changing. What worked yesterday, might not work today.
But the solution was always just changing something small in the registration process, and it would work again.
I am having an issue now where I create an account, successfully list items, get suspended, and than either eBay won't reinstate my account, or they will ask for docs, I will provide docs, they will reinstate my account, than suspended me again.
I am clueless, I have tried 5 accounts, 5 different countries, none of them worked!
Is anybody else facing the same issue? accounts getting suspended over and over? (not always, just recently). | yes , sure , every body is suffering lately from that , the problem is that ebay is using new security algorithm , fingerprint , and they collect a lot of information about your device and accounts connected to it , and will black list it if you try to make many accounts or got suspended first time for some reason ,
look for canvas and webgl fingerprint technology , these are the ones that is being used lately , and find solution to change them without it being noticed that it has been spoofed or this will also cause it to get suspended
yes it is 1000 time harder now than before to create new accounts , |
| dazller_the_great | 05-24-2020 08:17 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by aspkin
(Post 1095411)
IP changing is fine.
ISP changing is not fine. | i totally agree ,i noticed this in many different countries accounts , so its almost a standard every where |
| burbur | 05-24-2020 06:49 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths the suspensions are not random. Ebay increased their security a lot in the past few month. There are a lot of things how can they find out it is you only with your browser.
Here are some examples what your browser leaks and what can be used to track you:
Canvas fingerprint
WebGL hash/fingerprint
Installed fonts (a combination of fonts which you have installed)
Browserlangauge
Timezone
WebRTC (if using VPN)
Flashplayer
Javascript leaks
Geolocation (disabeled by default)
installed browserplugins
useragent
operating system
enabeled/disabeled browserfeatures ( https://browserleaks.com/features)
DNS leaks (if using VPN)
VPN itself is almost a guaranteed ban, unleast you have a residential IP whcih is not blacklisted
you can check what information your browser is leaking here https://browserleaks.com/ https://ipleak.net/ https://panopticlick.eff.org/
Most of the information are not a guaranteed fingerprint but putting all of them together is an almost clear indication. e.g there are many people with the same fonts installed like you, but there are no people with the same fonts, same browserlanguage, same useragent, same timezone etc. like you.
The bigest leak is WebGL since it leaks a uniqe ID. if you disable it ebay will most likley ban you anyway since it is very unlikley that someone disabeled it.
with WebGL any website can find out that you are using a VM, so first step would be to stop using VMs.
I currently have a way to create accounts and do not get any bans so keep changing things and try around.
edit: since "Residential IP" automaticly gets linked to Ipburger, i want to say that i never tryed their residential IP so i am not sure if it is good to create accounts or not |
| DigiCambio | 05-26-2020 09:33 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by burbur
(Post 1095693)
I currently have a way to create accounts and do not get any bans so keep changing things and try around.
| It means you can spoof the webgl naturally without having a unique hash ? |
| joyousnoel | 05-28-2020 10:41 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths At this point I am wondering if it is worth creating new ebay accounts since so many of us are having bad lucks. |
| Zetex2 | 05-28-2020 12:46 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths I have tried using a Netherlands VPS with 911.re netherlands clean proxy and creating an account, with the idea in mind that the fingerprint is new and clean because this is a vps, and the ip is also resdinital and clean.
Account suspended after 30 minutes.
I have contacted eBay, but I fear it is suspended indefinitely.
No idea what is done wrong. Maybe it is simple the registeration process, its a business account. |
| pisports | 05-28-2020 01:10 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetex2
(Post 1096465)
I have tried using a Netherlands VPS with 911.re netherlands clean proxy and creating an account, with the idea in mind that the fingerprint is new and clean because this is a vps, and the ip is also resdinital and clean.
Account suspended after 30 minutes.
I have contacted eBay, but I fear it is suspended indefinitely.
No idea what is done wrong. Maybe it is simple the registeration process, its a business account. | Residental ip is a proxy,not VPS,VPS is a server.since it still a proxy it still easily to detect by nowdays ebay tech even its residental ip. |
| burbur | 05-28-2020 01:53 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by DigiCambio
(Post 1096027)
It means you can spoof the webgl naturally without having a unique hash ? | No, I do have WebGL disabeled completly and it works for me. but if WebGL is the problem you can buy new videocards for each account https://www.ebay.de/itm/263021002088
3 EUR for a videocard
maybe a fresh instlation of windows will also do the job. I did not investigate how exactly it works since for me accs are fine with WebGL disabled |
| burbur | 05-28-2020 01:55 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetex2
(Post 1096465)
I have tried using a Netherlands VPS with 911.re netherlands clean proxy and creating an account, with the idea in mind that the fingerprint is new and clean because this is a vps, and the ip is also resdinital and clean.
Account suspended after 30 minutes.
I have contacted eBay, but I fear it is suspended indefinitely.
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proxy | when do people start to use their brain.. |
| Zetex2 | 05-29-2020 06:04 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by pisports
(Post 1096468)
Residental ip is a proxy,not VPS,VPS is a server.since it still a proxy it still easily to detect by nowdays ebay tech even its residental ip. | I put a proxy on the VPS. The ip detected is a resedinital IP. I checked on whatleaks.com, nothing leaks. How can they detect I am using proxy? |
| Zetex2 | 05-29-2020 06:05 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by burbur
(Post 1096479)
when do people start to use their brain.. | Alright, than please explain how can eBay know I am using a proxy. Because whatleaks can't. |
| tedsmith1990 | 05-29-2020 08:38 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Do you have any updates in your stealth book regarding to this problem? Quote:
Originally Posted by aspkin
(Post 1095411)
IP changing is fine.
ISP changing is not fine. | |
| throwaway35496 | 06-03-2020 01:24 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths It's not easy |
| Skiimpo | 06-07-2020 11:36 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetex2
(Post 1096465)
I have tried using a Netherlands VPS with 911.re netherlands clean proxy and creating an account, with the idea in mind that the fingerprint is new and clean because this is a vps, and the ip is also resdinital and clean.
Account suspended after 30 minutes.
I have contacted eBay, but I fear it is suspended indefinitely.
No idea what is done wrong. Maybe it is simple the registeration process, its a business account. | I think on of the most important details is, where did you get the number to verify your account ? |
| ebizz | 06-19-2020 04:25 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths It’s still the same process to create new accounts, but even new high limit accounts get suspended easily if you list too many items too fast, which was not the case before April 2020. |
Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by ebizz
(Post 1100754)
Its still the same process to create new accounts, but even new high limit accounts get suspended easily if you list too many items too fast, which was not the case before April 2020. | The last statement about "not the case before April 2020" is debatable |
| Bigblackdog | 06-19-2020 06:30 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths In view of the MP situation perhaps now is not the time to be investing resources into stealth accounts - personal choice of course but the whole thing needs to settle down first IMHO |
Re: Impossible to create stealths So what is the point of IP burger then, Is it any good for managing an already created account or it will cause the same problems in a long term? |
| Bigblackdog | 06-22-2020 06:34 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by auga
(Post 1101381)
So what is the point of IP burger then, Is it any good for managing an already created account or it will cause the same problems in a long term? | IP Burger is only one aspect of account creation |
Re: Impossible to create stealths Same problem here, ordered a fresh IP from ipBurger, I used a new real name, new address, new real phone number (burn phone), new mail, new PayPal with new bank details from TFW, I then verified the PP account.
On a completely new session within my Macbook I built cookies in and outside ebay, then after a week of use I created an ebay account, built more cookies, crawl the website, made search so on... contacted some sellers, bought one items less than 10, left a feedback a week later, bought another again one a week after, then I registered for a seller account, waited about 10 days bought another item and then listed 2 listings, only bidding starting at 1 and the other 9,99 old MacBook parts I had at home, the picture were fresh and from a new phone, got suspended, appealed, sent an invoice, internet bill and ID. The account got restored waited 3 days and added 3 more MacBook parts a little more expensive this time around 50 each and I got suspended indefinitely.
Using the latest OS X version
Chrome as browser
Personal account not business
eBay FRANCE
Is multi session still working ? |
| iamlmfao | 06-24-2020 08:20 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths the second suspension is either ur IP or the item(s) u listed. literally u have to age this is the ONLY solution, sorry bro, Moroccans abused it. blame them |
| Darkineyye | 06-25-2020 05:05 PM | Re: Impossible to create stealths blame them for what ? |
Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by iamlmfao
(Post 1101872)
the second suspension is either ur IP or the item(s) u listed. literally u have to age this is the ONLY solution, sorry bro, Moroccans abused it. blame them | Thanks for the feedback, I've sent a mail to IP Burger they confirmed that the IP was not optimal for account creation but more for created already working account. I'll try my luck with a dongle and also AVOID at all cost using Chrome and put items in the book section I've heard they work well for verification and it's very easy to get invoices from Amazon!
Best of luck for all, it's not the time to give up to Big brother! We can bit the system. |
| CryptoBoss | 06-26-2020 09:38 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by papy
(Post 1101855)
Same problem here, ordered a fresh IP from ipBurger, I used a new real name, new address, new real phone number (burn phone), new mail, new PayPal with new bank details from TFW, I then verified the PP account.
On a completely new session within my Macbook I built cookies in and outside ebay, then after a week of use I created an ebay account, built more cookies, crawl the website, made search so on... contacted some sellers, bought one items less than 10, left a feedback a week later, bought another again one a week after, then I registered for a seller account, waited about 10 days bought another item and then listed 2 listings, only bidding starting at 1 and the other 9,99 old MacBook parts I had at home, the picture were fresh and from a new phone, got suspended, appealed, sent an invoice, internet bill and ID. The account got restored waited 3 days and added 3 more MacBook parts a little more expensive this time around 50 each and I got suspended indefinitely.
Using the latest OS X version
Chrome as browser
Personal account not business
eBay FRANCE
Is multi session still working ? | I can definitely assure you its what your selling |
| CryptoBoss | 06-26-2020 09:39 AM | Re: Impossible to create stealths Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkineyye
(Post 1102054)
blame them for what ? | :comp5::comp5: I wanna know too | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:43 PM. | |
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