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Zetex2 05-23-2020 07:25 AM

Impossible to create stealths
 
Creating stealth was always hard in the long term, because eBay algorithms constantly changing. What worked yesterday, might not work today.

But the solution was always just changing something small in the registration process, and it would work again.

I am having an issue now where I create an account, successfully list items, get suspended, and than either eBay won't reinstate my account, or they will ask for docs, I will provide docs, they will reinstate my account, than suspended me again.



I am clueless, I have tried 5 accounts, 5 different countries, none of them worked!


Is anybody else facing the same issue? accounts getting suspended over and over? (not always, just recently).

phaz0rz 05-23-2020 07:27 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Yeah.. lots of people are.

Zetex2 05-23-2020 07:28 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1095384)
Yeah.. lots of people are.

Do you have any clue about what causing it?
I am suspecting now that it could be the fact the IP I am using for registeration is always changing (like mobile proxy). The DNS is the same, but maybe it triggers something in eBay.

phaz0rz 05-23-2020 07:31 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
It's the fact that eBay is starting to process their own payments. It's only going to get harder and harder as managed payments is implemented worldwide.

I don't know what to tell you. I haven't made a new account in years. I'm sure the account sellers would sell you a functional account.

Banned_123 05-23-2020 07:42 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Best option is to buy some incl. VPS here on the marketplace. Works best for me.

aspkin 05-23-2020 08:45 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetex2 (Post 1095386)
Do you have any clue about what causing it?
I am suspecting now that it could be the fact the IP I am using for registeration is always changing (like mobile proxy). The DNS is the same, but maybe it triggers something in eBay.

IP changing is fine.

ISP changing is not fine.

robjobs 05-23-2020 06:00 PM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
They're making them in Linux ssh

Zetex2 05-24-2020 05:30 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robjobs (Post 1095501)
They're making them in Linux ssh

Do you think the OS matters? I highly doubt that.
Also using a VPS is problematic, since the ISP is not resedinital. It might work but has a lower chance of success than resedinital IP.

I am going to try using Android user-agent with mobile proxy. Maybe it would help.

KlugePatrik 05-24-2020 06:34 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
My best bet is actually register Many accounts, on some they might get suspended , others get limits increases. so just spreading the risk on multiple accs, some die, some live :)

Also registering new accounts constantly helps stay fit in the process, more so having acounts with low level activity assures constant sales regardles of ban or not. You always must keep your backup accs ready.

dazller_the_great 05-24-2020 08:15 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetex2 (Post 1095383)
Creating stealth was always hard in the long term, because eBay algorithms constantly changing. What worked yesterday, might not work today.

But the solution was always just changing something small in the registration process, and it would work again.

I am having an issue now where I create an account, successfully list items, get suspended, and than either eBay won't reinstate my account, or they will ask for docs, I will provide docs, they will reinstate my account, than suspended me again.



I am clueless, I have tried 5 accounts, 5 different countries, none of them worked!


Is anybody else facing the same issue? accounts getting suspended over and over? (not always, just recently).

yes , sure , every body is suffering lately from that , the problem is that ebay is using new security algorithm , fingerprint , and they collect a lot of information about your device and accounts connected to it , and will black list it if you try to make many accounts or got suspended first time for some reason ,
look for canvas and webgl fingerprint technology , these are the ones that is being used lately , and find solution to change them without it being noticed that it has been spoofed or this will also cause it to get suspended
yes it is 1000 time harder now than before to create new accounts ,

dazller_the_great 05-24-2020 08:17 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 1095411)
IP changing is fine.

ISP changing is not fine.

i totally agree ,i noticed this in many different countries accounts , so its almost a standard every where

burbur 05-24-2020 06:49 PM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
the suspensions are not random. Ebay increased their security a lot in the past few month. There are a lot of things how can they find out it is you only with your browser.
Here are some examples what your browser leaks and what can be used to track you:

Canvas fingerprint
WebGL hash/fingerprint
Installed fonts (a combination of fonts which you have installed)
Browserlangauge
Timezone
WebRTC (if using VPN)
Flashplayer
Javascript leaks
Geolocation (disabeled by default)
installed browserplugins
useragent
operating system
enabeled/disabeled browserfeatures (https://browserleaks.com/features)
DNS leaks (if using VPN)
VPN itself is almost a guaranteed ban, unleast you have a residential IP whcih is not blacklisted

you can check what information your browser is leaking here https://browserleaks.com/
https://ipleak.net/ https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Most of the information are not a guaranteed fingerprint but putting all of them together is an almost clear indication. e.g there are many people with the same fonts installed like you, but there are no people with the same fonts, same browserlanguage, same useragent, same timezone etc. like you.

The bigest leak is WebGL since it leaks a uniqe ID. if you disable it ebay will most likley ban you anyway since it is very unlikley that someone disabeled it.

with WebGL any website can find out that you are using a VM, so first step would be to stop using VMs.

I currently have a way to create accounts and do not get any bans so keep changing things and try around.


edit: since "Residential IP" automaticly gets linked to Ipburger, i want to say that i never tryed their residential IP so i am not sure if it is good to create accounts or not

DigiCambio 05-26-2020 09:33 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burbur (Post 1095693)

I currently have a way to create accounts and do not get any bans so keep changing things and try around.

It means you can spoof the webgl naturally without having a unique hash ?

joyousnoel 05-28-2020 10:41 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
At this point I am wondering if it is worth creating new ebay accounts since so many of us are having bad lucks.

Zetex2 05-28-2020 12:46 PM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
I have tried using a Netherlands VPS with 911.re netherlands clean proxy and creating an account, with the idea in mind that the fingerprint is new and clean because this is a vps, and the ip is also resdinital and clean.
Account suspended after 30 minutes.
I have contacted eBay, but I fear it is suspended indefinitely.

No idea what is done wrong. Maybe it is simple the registeration process, its a business account.

pisports 05-28-2020 01:10 PM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetex2 (Post 1096465)
I have tried using a Netherlands VPS with 911.re netherlands clean proxy and creating an account, with the idea in mind that the fingerprint is new and clean because this is a vps, and the ip is also resdinital and clean.
Account suspended after 30 minutes.
I have contacted eBay, but I fear it is suspended indefinitely.

No idea what is done wrong. Maybe it is simple the registeration process, its a business account.

Residental ip is a proxy,not VPS,VPS is a server.since it still a proxy it still easily to detect by nowdays ebay tech even its residental ip.

burbur 05-28-2020 01:53 PM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DigiCambio (Post 1096027)
It means you can spoof the webgl naturally without having a unique hash ?

No, I do have WebGL disabeled completly and it works for me. but if WebGL is the problem you can buy new videocards for each account

https://www.ebay.de/itm/263021002088

3 EUR for a videocard


maybe a fresh instlation of windows will also do the job. I did not investigate how exactly it works since for me accs are fine with WebGL disabled

burbur 05-28-2020 01:55 PM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetex2 (Post 1096465)
I have tried using a Netherlands VPS with 911.re netherlands clean proxy and creating an account, with the idea in mind that the fingerprint is new and clean because this is a vps, and the ip is also resdinital and clean.
Account suspended after 30 minutes.
I have contacted eBay, but I fear it is suspended indefinitely.

No idea what is done wrong. Maybe it is simple the registeration process, its a business account.

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Originally Posted by Zetex2 (Post 1096465)
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when do people start to use their brain..

Zetex2 05-29-2020 06:04 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pisports (Post 1096468)
Residental ip is a proxy,not VPS,VPS is a server.since it still a proxy it still easily to detect by nowdays ebay tech even its residental ip.

I put a proxy on the VPS. The ip detected is a resedinital IP. I checked on whatleaks.com, nothing leaks. How can they detect I am using proxy?

Zetex2 05-29-2020 06:05 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burbur (Post 1096479)
when do people start to use their brain..

Alright, than please explain how can eBay know I am using a proxy. Because whatleaks can't.

tedsmith1990 05-29-2020 08:38 AM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
Do you have any updates in your stealth book regarding to this problem?

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 1095411)
IP changing is fine.

ISP changing is not fine.


throwaway35496 06-03-2020 01:24 PM

Re: Impossible to create stealths
 
It's not easy


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