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eBays "mass" suspending spree...
 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ebay/commen...ding_spree_if/

Thoughts?

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BAY - We have determined that it is in our mutual best interest to part ways. We regret any frustration or inconvenience this matter may cause you.

ME - why is that? I don't think I violated any terms

EBAY - Your account was suspended because it exhibits a risk to eBay and to its community. We're not comfortable with your buying practices or business model, and we feel they don't help to promote a positive buying and selling environment.

ME - what exactly is risky about my activity?

EBAY - I know you are concerned about the risk indicators found on your account but I am sorry I am not able to share those internal details with you due to privacy concerns. While we understand that you may not agree with our decision not to grant your appeal, please understand that this decision is final and will not be reversed.

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ebay will dead.

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ive had a bunch of accounts suspended recently as well. I figured it was just a holiday sweep or w/e, or maybe because I hadn't built up enough trust with ebay to be selling during the holiday season yet (I returned to ebay selling in august after a multi year hiatus). I did noticed that these suspensions were much more trivial (aka bull****) than years prior, which seems commensurate with the reddit thread where people are claiming that even their buyer only accounts established in the 2000s are getting banned. really ****ing frustrating for me, even though I haven't posted about it really

that thread claims their algo glitched, is this confirmed anywhere? or just speculation

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I wonder how buying accs can exhibit risks to ebay?

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I wonder about that too.
It sounds like the work of Ebay bot,to go thru millions of accounts.
But most Ebayers have multiple accounts,to buy,to sell,to browse,so his buy account is linked to his other accounts,we dont know.
Buying from oneself in an auction is a violation.

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one post kind of stood out: "Update: I got an agent on the line after 1 hour and 58 minutes on hold. English was not her first language, but she said eBay was doing a mass verification check of some sort and that getting suspended did not mean I did anything wrong. Proved I was a real person by answering some questions about my buying habits and my account was then restored. She acknowledged the long hold time and said they’re working on an action plan as this is affecting a ton of accounts. Safe to say this was done erroneously for the most part."

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Ya this year is pretty bad, I would say with the use of MP is what furthered that.

Start of November was definitely odd as those "We restricted your account" hits were rampant on a lot of my accounts.

Their reps don't help either and end up just wasting your time with scripted crap.

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every year as we approach Xmas shopping period,Ebay will step up to make sure sellers do have the inventory and ship promptly.
It will ask sellers for proof like a vendor invoice,in categories such as toys and electronics.
I recall one seller who had a physical shop in Michigan and sold popular toys listed many items he did not have and his shop was closed.
but this sounds like the work of a bot.

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i agree with agent, this sounds like their usual christmas time new security test

it usually starts earlier, would be nice if they only do it 1 month this year

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Lost easy 20-25 accounts this month. Very annoying.

MP verification is usually the end of it. "Upload ID" = Account done. They check against a database, impossible to pass creatively.

Might possibly be the end of stealth. Ebay lost thousands of sellers, Ebay's sales are down too.

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Ebay is cleaning house,look at Etsy!
I know an Ebay seller who has been on Ebay for 25 years and banned,she did nothing wrong but she is slow in shiping.

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I posted something similar to this a couple of months ago and got criticized for my selling practices and was told it was me and something i did wrong. Now i guess we can say it is official that there is a mass suspension going on. I have had probably 30 accounts suspended in the last 3 months. Most ask for photo id, bank statements and invoices for items sold. Its a waste of time to send in those items. The account is dead anyways. Out of all those accounts that i sent in what they required i got 1 account back.

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All 30 accounts had legit IDs added?

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Isn't ebay's revenue way up?

We have never had an easier year on ebay. Sales have never been better and exceeding my 2013 record by a long shot in volume and profit.

Maybe cutting out these accounts makes a better buying experience. Maybe it makes the sellers happier with more revue with less crappy buyers with high return rates. My returns have never been lower even though I have never sold as much volume before. I think it is less than 100 returns across all accounts with more than 20,000 transactions but 2019 was close to 2%

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OH! That ain't changed a bit! :lol: It's still you...

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Scammers have their dick in one hand while they target innocent shoppers online at this time of year. It's a bloodbath with the amount of scamming going on.

All platforms step up their game at this time of year ... they don't care if you are genuine and getting suspended. They need to retain their best customers already on the platform by protecting them from thieves.

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I would say eliminating most of the competition if any in certain products. I know I had more sales as most competitors that were selling similar products to mine are gone.

But as with everyone said, it was kind of odd every time I would submit a second listing, new or old account, it would get restricted within 30 minutes every single time.

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It seems the site is already dead, at least for new sellers
:ranger:

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Seems like a Major crack down happens this time of every year

But this time its different its not normal

they need to change their behavior towards seller's otherwise will lose business

if they think they can be next amazon by doing this clean

than they are clearly mistaken

Ebay 20% Revenue is by stealth accounts and i am pretty sure its down to bad percentage

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Any source for this statement?

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For USA accounts they have no choice because of the new $600 reporting threshold. They use Adyen for their back end and KYC we use Stripe Connect... When a seller registers. There`s 8 different fields that technically have to match to allow the seller/merchant to transact. A seller can pass KYC but still have an attention status check. I went over this more in depth in an Etsy thread but if you are a single member LLC and you register on a selling platform using your EIN... You just mucked up my reporting if you ever hit 200/20K. If you are a single member LLC you can't use an EIN on a W9 and we can't use it on a 1099-K as you are a disregarded entity subject to pass through taxation. That 1099-K would be rejected by the IRS system unless the seller filed IRS form 8832. Think about how many people on this board are using an EIN with a single member LLC... All of those accounts have a warning status, along with actual stealth accounts, accounts made with EIN's less then 4 weeks old, etc and now Ebay can't sit back and let them operate until they get close to 20K. For platforms and marketplaces in the US now its simple. Either file a correct 1099-K after $600 or lose $600 ($570 fine in 2022 for not reporting or ignoring a rejected filing). So all the status warning accounts are getting hit by bots.

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offcourse there is no source

this is my personal calculations :humble:

I Might be wrong about it so please dont take it seriously:coffee:

taking down each other ebay listings, competitor reporting feedbacks survival is hard for that long for just 1 account for 1 person

My personal made account and other seller's are in thousands alone
there were thousands of seller's on various platform cashing out thier ebay sales funds through paypal

I bet once a user land on aspkin thier hope is alive and he/she start digging into stealth

Aspkin also have very attractive stats
Overall visits per month 193470

every 2/10 seller is using someone else paypal, stealth or just a bank before Mp was implemented


25 percent of all eBay sellers are in Uk
28 percent of eBay sellers are in the US.


this is just for the information

There are 187 million eBay users worldwide.
The eBay app is used by 34.9 percent of all US mobile users.
16.4 percent of items sold on eBay fall in the “Electronics & Accessories” category, the top-selling category.
There are 1.7 billion listings on eBay.
$27.5 billion worth of goods were bought and sold on eBay’s marketplace platforms in Q1 2021.
More than 60 percent of eBay’s marketplace GMV involves a mobile touchpoint.
940,000 eBay sellers use the “Promoted Listings” feature on over 250 million listings.
71 percent of eBay purchases are shipped for free.
80 percent of goods sold on eBay are new.
28 percent of eBay sellers are in the US.

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Dodgy statement to make without evidence

Do you think that buyers if they were unable to buy from stealth accounts would not buy from legit accounts?

Ebay/Etsy do NOT want stealth accounts on their sites (You wouldn't want burglars in your house would you?)

If a few legit accounts get canned along with 'dodgy' accounts they will live with that

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There is no evidence of that

its same like Jeff Bezos is the richest person but in reality he is not

he is richest because of his declared money

there are many who are 10 times richest them him but cant declared thier assets Mostly operating in grey market e.g drug lords and they do not count on the list


Its same impossible to calculate the stealth users on ebay

20 percent was just a assumption

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That's fair enough -

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If we look at stealth as active verified accounts belonging to sellers who were permanently banned on a previous account... I don`t know if its 20% but its a whole hell of a lot higher then we`d suspect.

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What do you base that on?

My own view is that since MP the number of stealth accounts has plumeted and, once again in my unqualified opinion, it is going to be less and less

I remember at the beginning of the pandemic people on here talking about opening scores of new accounts to sell face masks - impossible to do now

It isn't Ebay that is the big problem - it is adyen who because of KYC have access to data that Ebay could only dream about

For sure some people are finding a way through but it is telling that the number of accounts being sold has fallen away

I don't pretend to have any answers - this is just my observations and opinions

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What?! :lol: All stealthers combined don't even sell as much as ONE of ebay's top sellers. I know we all want to feel good about ourselves, but we're just piss ants compared to the big guys.

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20% no way its impossible, do you have source to confirm this statement?

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Rubbish from his arse...

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The way the system works with Adyen is not exactly KYC goes in and KYC goes to Ebay. My company offers a CRM product with built in payments. We use Stripe Connect on the back end to route payouts and conduct KYC... If say a client signs up who ran afoul with Stripe Payments (different then Connect) in the past but signs up on our platform. Their KYC comes back clean. Their risk score might be bad but their KYC and info we'd need to file a correct 1099-K comes back clean so the system verifies them and the only alert is a risk score which we can chose to ignore or act on or not. Sellers from the Paypal days who got banned never gave their SSN info to Ebay. That was handled separately by Paypal (After 2015 they were completely separate). Most people in the USA for example can pass KYC using their middle name as their first name especially if they have more then one ID document (think Drivers License and passport or passport card)

Needs attention status: Any reason (usually, director name address mismatch), Address, Business name, TIN - Any reason, TIN - Missing, TIN - Mismatch

Without giving up all the secrets if the data given can be matched to the data received by the database pull in the categories above you'll pass KYC with no status alerts passed back to Ebay and Adyen's side is clean and compliant. At that point its up to Ebay (not Adyen) to try to match your info with a previously banned account. For people in the states there's a simple way to test what will pass and not pass via online banking systems at a smaller regional bank.

Even after initial document request. Ebay never had your docs in the Paypal days so if you've not been banned (and owe them money) already under MP then you'll still be good to go. Here:

https://i.imgur.com/ctCg8k1.png

This is an account used as a test, the name provided on that account was banned by Ebay during the Paypal days. The account was as usual restricted then reinstated in less then 24 hours during the bot ban and has not actually had a payout held. We'll do 9 or 10 sells a month on this account, as it will be attached to one of the shelf companies we'll have for sale.

As a matter of fact Ebay near the tools available to them directly to deal with stealth and KYC as say Shopify who uses Stripe Connect like we do but are also licensed as PSP and Payment Facilitators directly by Visa and Mastercard. Ebay has to rely completely on Adyen for those services... Understanding whats behind the bot bans and how to stay on their good side is fairly simple if you have a basic understanding how the back end works, and I just provided part of that to you guy so Merry Christmas.

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What happens is Holiday Suspensions, happens every December, at the end of spring and July.
Merry Christmas!

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Duly noted USB - points of discussion :)