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Anyone had the same issue? Had few accounts suspended this night in a 2 hour window. All were 6 months+ with 25+ FB selling history, no any problems with them, no vero no nothing, just old shelf crap for few bucks.

Only developing accounts were affected. Old established ones were not touched, but all of them share exactly the same running methods - banks, ips, browsers, all the same techniques.

UPDATE : I've asked about the reason for limitation, and got a canned reply from "authenticwatches@ebay.com". What is that email? Never seen it.

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I haven’t gotten a large ban wave since January i lost like 30 accounts that day and 5 of them were top rated seller. Seems like after awhile the bots can link all of them to the same user. The bots are constantly getting upgraded to detect lots of accounts from 1 user
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I havenít gotten a large ban wave since January i lost like 30 accounts that day and 5 of them were top rated seller. Seems like after awhile the bots can link all of them to the same user. The bots are constantly getting upgraded to detect lots of accounts from 1 user
What have you improved since then? Or just handle this as a cost of doing business?
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I find it surprising the amount of accounts you guys run at a time
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What have you improved since then? Or just handle this as a cost of doing business?
Bro you wouldnít believe me if I told you lol, I was a noob I didnít really understand how stealth worked at first. I was only separating cookies.

So I would have friends create some accounts for me and then I would manage all of them in firefox portables. I was using the same windows user and same IP address on about 60 accounts. I had 1 or 2 get suspended every month. This worked for me from April 2021 until November 2021. All 60 got suspended in November

I joined this forum in December because I was ripping my hair out trying to figure out how all my accounts got suspended.

So from November 2021 - January 2022 I used same user and different firefox profiles and mobile hotspot to keep changing IP. But I was still linking the accounts because I would manage them with same IP until it asked me to sign in LOL. I had around 30 accounts and 20 got suspended doing that.

So from February 2022 until now I started using different windows users to seperate cookies and make sure my IP is changing everytime. Iím now managing 160 accounts doing this method. No problems. Windows users seems to keep everything seperate
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Bro you wouldnít believe me if I told you lol, I was a noob I didnít really understand how stealth worked at first. I was only separating cookies.

So I would have friends create some accounts for me and then I would manage all of them in firefox portables. I was using the same windows user and same IP address on about 60 accounts. I had 1 or 2 get suspended every month. This worked for me from April 2021 until November 2021. All 60 got suspended in November

I joined this forum in December because I was ripping my hair out trying to figure out how all my accounts got suspended.

So from November 2021 - January 2022 I used same user and different firefox profiles and mobile hotspot to keep changing IP. But I was still linking the accounts because I would manage them with same IP until it asked me to sign in LOL. I had around 30 accounts and 20 got suspended doing that.

So from February 2022 until now I started using different windows users to seperate cookies and make sure my IP is changing everytime. Iím now managing 160 accounts doing this method. No problems. Windows users seems to keep everything seperate
Great that you've found that solution for you. However, I was using something similar, and it worked for 6 months, but then few accs just died, however nothing has changed in them and in the way I was running them - same sales, same items, no problems etc.
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Great that you've found that solution for you. However, I was using something similar, and it worked for 6 months, but then few accs just died, however nothing has changed in them and in the way I was running them - same sales, same items, no problems etc.
If everything on your accounts were unique then 9/10 they tracked all the behavior on your accounts to you.. thatís the only thing I could think of.

Iíve been researching on how fingerprints works and itís scary. Your fingerprints is so unique that no one else in the world can have the same fingerprints as you. It goes as far as the pattern in your typing and mouse movement behavior.

The best option would be anti detect browsers or VMwares, but sometimes those cause problems also. So itís a win/lose situation

Windows users and hotspots is still working for me but eventually all my accounts are going to be linked Iím sure
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How do you manage 160 accounts on MP
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How do you manage 160 accounts on MP
Reuse some bank accounts across MP platform?
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Bro you wouldnít believe me if I told you lol, I was a noob I didnít really understand how stealth worked at first. I was only separating cookies.

So I would have friends create some accounts for me and then I would manage all of them in firefox portables. I was using the same windows user and same IP address on about 60 accounts. I had 1 or 2 get suspended every month. This worked for me from April 2021 until November 2021. All 60 got suspended in November

I joined this forum in December because I was ripping my hair out trying to figure out how all my accounts got suspended.

So from November 2021 - January 2022 I used same user and different firefox profiles and mobile hotspot to keep changing IP. But I was still linking the accounts because I would manage them with same IP until it asked me to sign in LOL. I had around 30 accounts and 20 got suspended doing that.

So from February 2022 until now I started using different windows users to seperate cookies and make sure my IP is changing everytime. Iím now managing 160 accounts doing this method. No problems. Windows users seems to keep everything seperate



160 accounts WOW!!! That the way to do it...I sent you a pm....Check it
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Default Re: mass suspensions this night

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Anyone had the same issue? Had few accounts suspended this night in a 2 hour window. All were 6 months+ with 25+ FB selling history, no any problems with them, no vero no nothing, just old shelf crap for few bucks.

Only developing accounts were affected. Old established ones were not touched, but all of them share exactly the same running methods - banks, ips, browsers, all the same techniques.

UPDATE : I've asked about the reason for limitation, and got a canned reply from "authenticwatches@ebay.com". What is that email? Never seen it.
The heck? That's the dept that deals with watches like Rolex... so they might be linking your account to accounts they were banning sounds like?
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UPDATE : I've asked about the reason for limitation, and got a canned reply from "authenticwatches@ebay.com". What is that email? Never seen it.
Neither has google. I can't find a single reference to this address. Weird?
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160 accounts ? why would you need so many accounts ? and how is that even possible on MP unless you're going on companies house and stealing real business details.
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Anyone had the same issue? Had few accounts suspended this night in a 2 hour window. All were 6 months+ with 25+ FB selling history, no any problems with them, no vero no nothing, just old shelf crap for few bucks.

Only developing accounts were affected. Old established ones were not touched, but all of them share exactly the same running methods - banks, ips, browsers, all the same techniques.

UPDATE : I've asked about the reason for limitation, and got a canned reply from "authenticwatches@ebay.com". What is that email? Never seen it.
Probably you give out same fingerprints as someone who was banned for selling watches.

Warming the accounts with crap products is not the best tactic. Looks sketchy and you are not giving value to their precious community. Chinese sellers did this. Do not do something they were commonly doing.
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Ebay has a program which will authenticate watches,so it does not like replicas.
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Ebay has a program which will authenticate watches,so it does not like replicas.
Program or bot identifying listing words/text?
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If everything on your accounts were unique then 9/10 they tracked all the behavior on your accounts to you.. thatís the only thing I could think of.

Iíve been researching on how fingerprints works and itís scary. Your fingerprints is so unique that no one else in the world can have the same fingerprints as you. It goes as far as the pattern in your typing and mouse movement behavior.

The best option would be anti detect browsers or VMwares, but sometimes those cause problems also. So itís a win/lose situation

Windows users and hotspots is still working for me but eventually all my accounts are going to be linked Iím sure
I wonder if using a trackpad instead of mouse, opposite hand for mouse/trackpad, typing with one hand alters virtual fingerprint enough to throw off the bots?
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All my accounts run off the same IP for many many many years. I dont think IP has much meaning unless you have atrocious policy violations.
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Thing is that most of the suspended accounts did not have any high risk sales, and were going okay for months. After going down, few accounts were still intact, although doing absolutely the same selling patterns, and a couple of them were even reinstated. So I do not see any logic here.
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Thing is that most of the suspended accounts did not have any high risk sales, and were going okay for months. After going down, few accounts were still intact, although doing absolutely the same selling patterns, and a couple of them were even reinstated. So I do not see any logic here.
My limited experience is that the bots/fraud system is more of a cudgel and not precise and surgical. I saw a seller rip ebay off for thousands, twice! 2 different accounts, exact same MO, same category of niche products, same photos, and ebay did nothing the 2nd time as it was unfolding over 4-8 weeks. I was shocked, but not surprised when the neg FB poured in saying what happened. Thieves just rinsed-and-repeated and got away with a few more $K after the initial $10K + scam.
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I wonder if using a trackpad instead of mouse, opposite hand for mouse/trackpad, typing with one hand alters virtual fingerprint enough to throw off the bots?
That wonít really do anything lol

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