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Re: mc999 by court decision
 

I have experienced it few times. Most of these "law suits" are just a scam, they usualy go down from 10k to 2k or even less, they are checking "how much you can pay". Never give them your personal information or better,
don't respond to their messages. Just keep doing what ur doing and start creating a stealth account. Iv'e heard that some sellers got these "law suit" notifications to their email, just ignorred it and continued to sell without any suspensions or restrictions.
Even if it's a real court case, but 2k is to much for you to pay because of low profit. Don't pay anything and create a new account, because u don't know if your account will not be suspended after you make the payment, then you will lose 2k and account.

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All about not providing real info, operating via stealth, and not getting fazed by these threats indeed...

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I believe the international reciprocal shipping arrangements giving the Chinese the edge on very cheap shipping ends soon hopefully.

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Chinese electic car's is start booming in europe, when i back to the europe i see some of my friends has electric cars from CN and they buy for less when 20k euro.

Plus i talk with a friend who renting cars he say it's start trending a lot of new eletric cars brand from CN

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Hello any news about mc999
They send me same message via email about patent product
They ask for 2k to stop the case they also send some PDFs including the 171 stores

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Sounds like you've been reported. If it was me I would consider changing what I'm selling. It isnt worth the hassle imo

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

I have a serious problem. I don't know if it has ever happened to you, but a law firm in Illinois is sending me a patent infringement notice. I was trying to sell an unbranded OEM 5 finger gripper exerciser for 24 euros, much higher than the competition. The buyer is a law firm in Illinois, and they purchased it in November. On February 8th, they sent me a lawsuit claiming patent infringement, along with 171 other stores. I haven't sold the product anywhere else; I immediately refunded them. I couldn't find any manufacturer information for the company since it's OEM. They have patented it, but all factories in China produce their version, which is a replica for us to sell as a product... They're asking for $2,000. I live in Europe; I have no idea what to do. I'm afraid they'll fine me and block my cards without making any profit from the product... I have 5 days left. I'll need your help as I gather opinions on what to do.

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Do nothing. Do not reply to any messages, letters...nothing whatsoever.

They will not try and track you down they are corrupt ambulance chaser style chancers.

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

nothing will happen to you as long as you do not make any contact with them

even if you should get a letter from a local lawyer later you could always claim that you don't know what they are talking about and you do not sell anything on ebay

lawyers do not have police powers and do not know whose account it is but only whose details it is registered with , as soon as they hear you deny everything they will have fear to take your to court as it would demand proof that it was in fact you and not someone impersonating you

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Agree 100% with this. On a personal note I had debt with Discover around 20k right before the pandemic. They sent me letters saying they were taking me to court. Maybe what happened in the pandemic saved my situation, but I never responded and nothing happened.

I've had other similar situations where the letters were very serious in nature but I did not respond. The key to understanding what is real and what is not, if they say something and it doesn't happen but they continue to threaten you, it's bullsh1t. If I had a website where a brand contacted me about legal actions I would never respond to them, that gives them leverage. They have no idea who you are, where you are located, there are so many factors involved.

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the most important factor is that they do not know if that seller are who they say they are that is why it is crucial not to respond in any way , if they get a reply where the person admit they are the seller and try to negotiate or explain something then they could go to court easily and if they own the trademark they will win

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Hypothetically if Apple sends a copyright infringement letter to my legit ebay registered name/address I should never respond? Apple is a big company vs a small unknown company.
Suppose the suing company was Apple saying they bought a charger from my store and it was counterft

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Unfortunately, I replied before 1 week and told them that I was unaware of the specific product and offered to give them 150 Euros to settle the matter, but now they are not responding. They will probably use it against me in court.
The law firm is the following: Sherinianlaw.net
The factory is the following: Shenzhen Kunshengze Electronic Commerce Co., Ltd. v.

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Welcome to the forum OP - all the best as you master stealth method :thumb:


Sadly, Old Tom gave you the best advice about doing nothing but odd that you did not follow.

All you can do right now is wait - should not offer anything more

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

it is likely nothing will happen as in most cases of missing settlement they just refuse to take back the complaint from ebay so that the account will not be reinstated

but in the future it is always better not to reply at all

account reinstatement in such a situation would be too dangerous anyway as you would have paid the settlement amount and they would still have your ebay shop details and personal details , if something else violating trademarks should be sold there later you would be exposed to high risks

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All my details are on eBay... what should I do? I have 4 days left... to close the account, suspend it, or remove my details... but I believe they might already have them.

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if the account is suspended just leave it this way

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Here is the message from ebay
After reviewing your account, we've had to take the following action:
- Some or all of your listings may have been removed. A list of any removed items will be listed further down in this email.
- We have credited any associated fees, except for transaction fees for your sold listing(s).A rights owner has filed a lawsuit in the United States claiming that your account was used to sell products that infringe its trademark, copyright, or other intellectual property. We removed your listings because a U.S. Court ordered eBay to do so. Violating the intellectual property rights of a rights owner is not allowed. Please do not relist the items we have removed, doing so may result in the permanent suspension of your account. At this time, we are unable to provide more information because the lawsuit is sealed. When the court informs us it has unsealed the lawsuit, we will send you an email notifying you and providing more information about the case.
If you have any concerns or questions, click "Help & Contact" at the top of most eBay pages.

We appreciate your understanding.

Thanks,
eBay

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Account is toast for sure.

Did they send you a letter and you signed for it?

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you can leave the account this way or change personal details and abandon the account

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They sent me some documents from the law firm showing the patent, the stores included in the total of 171 accounts, along with links and screenshots of the product posted on eBay. The papers also list the judges involved in the case by name. Their message instructs me to settle for $2,000 or respond to the lawsuit within 21 days and send it to the clerk of the Illinois court where the lawsuit was filed. I haven't signed anything yet, and I'm unsure whether I should. Also, if I delete information now and my eBay account, the data they hold will be deleted after 40 days. So, if the court requests information, they may retrieve it. I'm not sure how risky it is to do this.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/dockets...3/454322%3famp

Here is the case

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Wait if you don't even live in United States why are you concerned about this? Your flag shows France.

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do not reply in any way , did you receive the documents by email or post?

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all EU countries are US vassals so that their court decisions can be enforced if necessary

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I live in Europe, but the lawyers I spoke to told me that there is a possibility of losing in a Small Claims Court if I don't respond to the lawsuit. And because it's a federal court, there's a chance it could extend beyond the USA and they might pursue it in my country as well.

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I receive the PDFs over email

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just ignore it and do not send any replies whatsoever , if you ever get contacted locally you claim you never had an ebay account and did not sell anything , someone impersonated you and you know nothing about this

keep in mind: a US judgement can not be enforced automatically like it would be in the US but it would need to be recognized by a local court and this is where you would need to send a reply if it ever comes to this , as long as this has not happened you keep quiet

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Ok but you need to think rationally about this. They asked you to settle for $2,000 correct? Do you know how much it would cost for them to pursue you if you're in a different country? It does not even make business sense to do that. If you stop doing whatever you were, and just ignore them everything should be fine.

So much of this stuff is bluffs, they don't want to pay more in legal fees, no chance. Especially if the settlement amount is $2,000. At the same time it's very easy for me to say sitting behind my computer when you're faced with a serious issue, I've been there so I understand.

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this is correct but important point here is that they do not want to get access to private assets or pursue someone in various countries but they want to seize frozen ebay balances , if it is 170 accounts there will likely be tens of thousands of dollars free to take after judgement has been issued

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The only thing that worries me and has caused me anxiety is that the item was bought by the law firm in Illinois and they have it in their possession, so I don't know what they will claim when it's my turn. Regarding this, I have refunded the money so I have no profit from the item, but from what I understand, in such cases, a decision is made for all those who have not responded to the lawsuit... I don't know to what extent they investigate each seller, I might be wrong.

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https://dockets.justia.com/docket/il...cv08005/439543


Here is a same case that started in September along with the procedure

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

I received an email from Sherinian law like the original poster where they said they are freezing my account. They want 250 for listing their item and 50,000 in damages in a recent court document they sent a few days ago. I thought this was spam, but I received a mc999 in my eBay email a few days ago. Is this case cause to worry or don’t reply and I lost my eBay account? I have no money in my payout, so if they freeze the account forever, it’s not that bad.

Re: mc999 by court decision
 

Old thread. please make a new thread of your own