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medo002000 12-06-2023 11:36 AM

mc999 by court decision
 
hello
i got this message from ebay and i look for any help or idea
please tell me your thoughts or your expectation for what the lawyer gonna ask
i dont wanna lose my account and i live in poor country can afford too much money

Your payouts are currently on hold because your eBay payment account is restricted. A U.S. Court has directed eBay to freeze your account. Please reach out to plaintiff’s attorney at enforcement@sherinianlaw..net for more information and to resolve the matter.

Court Order Details
Court: U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois
Plaintiff: SHENZHEN KUNSHENGZE ELEC-TRONIC COMMERCE CO., LTD.
Trademark/Copyright/Patent at issue: KUNSHENGZE DESIGN PATENT - D980,990
Court Case Title: 23-cv-16109; SHENZHEN KUNSHENGZE ELEC-TRONIC COMMERCE CO., LTD., v. THE PARTNERSHIPS and UNINCORPORATED ASSOCIATIONS IDENTIFIED ON SCHEDULE “A”

eBay did not decide to freeze your account, it was ordered to do so by a judge. Please understand that eBay cannot release this freeze on your payouts until we receive instructions from the plaintiff’s attorney, or we receive a copy of a notice of dismissal or satisfaction of judgment that has been filed with the court. This matter must be resolved with plaintiff’s attorney or defended in court. Plaintiff’s attorney can be contacted at the above email address. An attorney can explain to you how to defend the lawsuit in court.

If you have not heard from plaintiff’s attorney after 5 days, we will be happy to request they respond to you. If you need us to reach out, please contact VeRO@ebay.com.



If you have any concerns or questions, click "Help & Contact" at the top of most eBay pages.

We hope that your future experiences on eBay are pleasant and successful.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust & Safety team



H44929

murdered_by_ebay 12-06-2023 11:47 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
the account and balance are gone

but you can open another one and sell there , they will not be pursuing you on the restricted account further , they just want you to stop selling and seize your balance

agent006140 12-06-2023 12:14 PM

Sell something else

It did not say suspending your seller account,it is freezing your balance .
Have you tried listing something else?
Is your MP account still good?

She has it for 16 years,it is a shame,one listing and she lost the account.
May be plead your case with Ebay

Go to Ebay seller forum and ask,many sellers there

medo002000 12-06-2023 12:18 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1231153)
Sell something else

is there anyway to recover the account

medo002000 12-06-2023 12:19 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1231151)
the account and balance are gone

but you can open another one and sell there , they will not be pursuing you on the restricted account further , they just want you to stop selling and seize your balance

i dont care about balance .. i care about the account .. it's 16 years old and very precious to me

murdered_by_ebay 12-06-2023 12:44 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by medo002000 (Post 1231155)
i dont care about balance .. i care about the account .. it's 16 years old and very precious to me

with a court order ebay will not remove the restriction , it can be used to buy but it will not be able to sell anything on ebay ever again , even if items could be listed any funds from the sale would be frozen

Automasters 12-06-2023 01:08 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
I would say it is toast. Once the crooked lawyers get involved you are done.

DENDEN76 12-06-2023 03:20 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
If you want the account back they will probably offer to settle for 10k or more. It's gone forget about it.

SaiJin 12-06-2023 07:57 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by medo002000 (Post 1231155)
i dont care about balance .. i care about the account .. it's 16 years old and very precious to me

this is a VERY good mindset. Good for you.

I'd immediately stop selling all related products, wait about 1-2 days and see if there's any extra infractions from the eBay side.

Sometimes it's best to let an account cool down and use back up stealth accounts, then start using the primary account again.

medo002000 12-07-2023 01:34 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1231189)
this is a VERY good mindset. Good for you.

I'd immediately stop selling all related products, wait about 1-2 days and see if there's any extra infractions from the eBay side.

Sometimes it's best to let an account cool down and use back up stealth accounts, then start using the primary account again.

how to do that .. can you explain please
they payment is on hold and i still get orders
but i didnt hear from the lawyer

asot34 12-07-2023 01:56 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
The guy is about to get dragged into a US court and you are telling him about a cool down period...
I hope it was a stealth account, not yours.

Jackies 12-07-2023 04:40 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asot34 (Post 1231197)
The guy is about to get dragged into a US court and you are telling him about a cool down period...
I hope it was a stealth account, not yours.

no one will take him anywhere, ambulances (law firms) the account balance will disappear and the account will probably be blocked, that's all... it works the same as on amaz/ets etc.

rsot 12-07-2023 06:24 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1231157)
with a court order ebay will not remove the restriction , it can be used to buy but it will not be able to sell anything on ebay ever again , even if items could be listed any funds from the sale would be frozen

medo, this seems the most appropriate status, unfortunately

You will need to get backup accounts going.

Did you identify the product(s) that caused this problem?

OldTom 12-07-2023 06:37 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Whilst nothing will come of the legal action, the account is dead. No amount of 'cooling down' will recover it.

Time to start again.

agent006140 12-07-2023 08:16 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asot34 (Post 1231197)
The guy is about to get dragged into a US court and you are telling him about a cool down period...
I hope it was a stealth account, not yours.

I doubt it,just for one item?
But if OP has the account for 16 years and this is her first offense,she may plead to EBAY,it never hurt to try

DENDEN76 12-07-2023 09:54 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
They treat all the accounts the same. amazon, eBay, paypal etc...even if you sell one violating item for $10. They lawyers will get a judge to close the account and take all your money. If you want the account back they will demand 10k or more as settlement.

I'm just surprised ebay is still letting you accept offers but don't ship because they will take those funds too

degsey69 12-07-2023 11:22 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
The account is dead, you have been identified as an associate or distributor, eBay shows Member since: Sep-27-07 in Egypt, but you say you are in Brazil.
You asked the same question in the eBay forums who told you exactly the same, your account is gone, you are still selling items and eBay will hold that money, I advise you not to ship any orders and walk away open a new stealth account.

murdered_by_ebay 12-07-2023 01:33 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
shipping is displayed as china though so account registration country , actual residence country and item location may very well be different

the main issue here is china of course , if they start selling same items on a different account but ship them from US location the problem will likely not arise as it seems to be a chinese company removing chinese competition here

dsims2051 12-07-2023 06:18 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
this is interesting...looking up the patent shows some kind of finger stretcher product? crazy that this is a court case...interesting

rsot 12-08-2023 08:29 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1231231)
I doubt it,just for one item?
But if OP has the account for 16 years and this is her first offense,she may plead to EBAY,it never hurt to try

Low chance of success with court involvement

agent006140 12-08-2023 08:59 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1231313)
Low chance of success with court involvement

thats a shame,a 16 years account down the drain

rsot 12-09-2023 09:53 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1231320)
thats a shame,a 16 years account down the drain

It is sad - happens here and there on eb so it's not something new :( always need those backups going

medo002000 12-09-2023 10:32 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
the lawyer want 2K$ which is still crazy because the monthly profit is very low
and too much for my country currency ! i can get small apartment with this amount of money

i see services on fiverr claim they can remove it .. and almost are from nigera with no feedback .. for sure they are scam ! but did anyone try those ? and does fiverr hold the money till the service is done ??

i never get any problem with court before and this is only about money as i searched everywhere possible but 2k $ still more than too much for me

agent006140 12-09-2023 10:48 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
have you tried bargaining with him?
Plenty of ambulance chasing lawyers out there

medo002000 12-09-2023 08:59 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1231421)
have you tried bargaining with him?
Plenty of ambulance chasing lawyers out there

i told him it's too much and he wanted to hear my offer
i answered i cant pay or afford even quarter of this amount of money and i asked for his final price .. but i didnt hear back from him and i send another message to fasten the process with no answer

DENDEN76 12-09-2023 09:01 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
How much is in the account? He has the choice of settling with you or taking the money in your account

OldTom 12-10-2023 04:39 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Too late for you now, but NEVER engage with these crooked lawyers. They are paid by the Chinese and use crooked courts (google it).

You will never get the account back or the money locked in it, simply accept it. If you think they want to work with you and would consider helping you re-instate your account then you are deluded.

If you hand over even more money to them you're adding insult to injury and are also admitting liability which ironically they'd use to justify not helping reinstate your account.

superduper1 12-10-2023 07:26 AM

Utility Bills Question
 
Just wanted to know if i get a utility bill made

Can ebay check it Out for authencity?

rsot 12-10-2023 10:25 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1231421)
have you tried bargaining with him?
Plenty of ambulance chasing lawyers out there

careful with the potential lawyer advice offered - OldTom is right on here

rsot 12-10-2023 11:17 AM

Re: Utility Bills Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superduper1 (Post 1231473)
Just wanted to know if i get a utility bill made

Can ebay check it Out for authencity?

Difficult to check if high quality I'd say...

murdered_by_ebay 12-10-2023 12:24 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTom (Post 1231466)
Too late for you now, but NEVER engage with these crooked lawyers. They are paid by the Chinese and use crooked courts (google it).

You will never get the account back or the money locked in it, simply accept it. If you think they want to work with you and would consider helping you re-instate your account then you are deluded.

If you hand over even more money to them you're adding insult to injury and are also admitting liability which ironically they'd use to justify not helping reinstate your account.

it is actually an out of court settlement so that it is possible to get the account reinstated for money but it does not make much sense since the guy has been drop shipping goods from china

he gets reinstated and they can hit him again anytime as he is unlikely to change his business model , his is selling items for $10-$15 with free postage to the US so that this money is sufficient to pay all ebay fees , shipping expenses , purchase the item and make profits

only china can offer such conditions as their transport cost is subsidized by their government

agent006140 12-10-2023 05:38 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Subsidised by US govt,this is what Trump was trying to change that.
We are still treating China as a poor country,so when their shipments arrive,we are willing to take over for very little money.
99 cents which we pay on EBay for a small package from China equates to $7.80 -$8 Chinese dollars and it does not cost that much to ship from China to USA BASED on the existing arrangement between US and CHina

degsey69 12-11-2023 07:41 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
When I shipped a lot through USPS I got friendly with my sale rep who informed me that there is an international arrangement whereby the Chinese would only charge their guys their foreign shipping rates which which are ridiculously cheap and all the worlds mail services have to deliver it for free. They can seriously undercut us and get away with it.

murdered_by_ebay 12-11-2023 08:20 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
you are right regarding postal services but there is much bigger traffic going on with containers , there they indeed receive massive help from the chinese government so that goods in containers can be delivered a lot cheaper than for anyone outside of china

OldTom 12-12-2023 05:40 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by degsey69 (Post 1231616)
When I shipped a lot through USPS I got friendly with my sale rep who informed me that there is an international arrangement whereby the Chinese would only charge their guys their foreign shipping rates which which are ridiculously cheap and all the worlds mail services have to deliver it for free. They can seriously undercut us and get away with it.

In the UK, not only do they get insanely cheap rates from Royal Mail but they get free Tracked 48 service, not just the 'can I be bothered to scan it' QR code.

They're delivering 99p items all the way from China when if I wanted to send the same item to my neighbour it would cost me £2.70 just for the postage which they're getting for pennies.

OldTom 12-12-2023 05:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1231620)
you are right regarding postal services but there is much bigger traffic going on with containers , there they indeed receive massive help from the chinese government so that goods in containers can be delivered a lot cheaper than for anyone outside of china

All part of their plan to generate huge demand for their wares and put 'local' manufactures out of business. It's worked and their grip now seems unbreakable.

Saw an article about electric cars. They've effectively got a monopoly on the component parts and own nearly all the battery metals mines globally.

They must be laughing at us as we push for this EV deadline of 2030.

And with their mining for coal growing almost exponentially it seems, we'll all be relying on them to keep warm and put the lights on as we close our own energy creation plants to appease the handful of climate idiots.

agent006140 12-12-2023 07:03 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
EVs will become a commodity like PC,micro wave oven,TV set,coffee maker.

DENDEN76 12-12-2023 09:08 AM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
That's funny because there's a youtube channel called China now...and every video is about how bleak the economy is, EVs made badly and exploding, governments fining people for every single thing to raise money, housing market collapse, factories closing down, rich people funneling funds out the country through drug dealers, banks refusing withdrawals, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ foods being sold to people, young people desperate for jobs etc etc...

I don't think China is all its made to seem like...especially when you see first hand accounts from the people living there

OldTom 12-12-2023 02:25 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DENDEN76 (Post 1231645)
That's funny because there's a youtube channel called China now...and every video is about how bleak the economy is, EVs made badly and exploding, governments fining people for every single thing to raise money, housing market collapse, factories closing down, rich people funneling funds out the country through drug dealers, banks refusing withdrawals, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ foods being sold to people, young people desperate for jobs etc etc...

I don't think China is all its made to seem like...especially when you see first hand accounts from the people living there

All very true, but they will clearly let their population suffer before their they let their grip on global trade and control slip.

Sounds like they're heading back to their traditional communist roots, can't have the masses getting too comfortable can we?

DENDEN76 12-12-2023 03:57 PM

Re: mc999 by court decision
 
That's very true. During the recent flooding...the government chose to open the dams and let the smaller towns flood before they would allow their major cities to flood. People died and there was no help for days...donated food and water was confiscated by government officials.

There would be warnings over the intercom systems telling people to evacuate because they are about to flood their town. It's crazy


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