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Sw489 01-15-2025 10:27 AM

Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
I received an email from Sherinian law like the original poster where they said they are freezing my account. They want 250 for listing their item and 50,000 in damages in a recent court document they sent a few days ago. I thought this was spam, but I received a mc999 in my eBay email a few days ago. Is this case cause to worry or don’t reply and I lost my eBay account? I have no money in my payout, so if they freeze the account forever, it’s not that bad.

james_112233 01-15-2025 10:52 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Pack your bags, flee the country mate.

Or you can ignore everything and see what happens.

Or you can respond and pay them what they ask and move on.

Three options really.

At the absolute worst you'll lose your ebay account, be thrown in jail with rapists and peadophiles.

At the absolute best you will learn from this and nothing will come of it.

There is no future in selling vero items. Plenty of money to be made just buying and selling normal everyday items or niche products, you just have to put in some time and effort to research.

murdered_by_ebay 01-15-2025 11:06 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
do not reply , do not make any contact whatsoever

if you receive letters from them or any government organization by post (not email) deny you were ever selling it online

they can not tell anyway if it was you or someone pretending to be you. such investigations can only be done by law enforcement and in order for them to get involved you would need to have a sizeable counterfeiting operation there

live on , open new accounts and live happy. you can be glad you live in the USA where law enforcement works like swiss cheese. there was a guy from germany here recently who got a similar complaint from another company and subsequent criminal case with a home search , he has a real problem comparing to you

Sw489 01-15-2025 11:31 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Where do they go from what was said in the recent court documents, what’s the timeline? What happens at the end? Do they just freeze the eBay account and take the payout? Or do they pursue the 50,000 for damages?

agent006140 01-15-2025 11:44 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
You should ask a lawyer,US is different from UK and EU.
Also I vaguely remember selling counterfeit by mail is NO NO for USPS.

Sw489 01-15-2025 11:49 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1252239)
You should ask a lawyer,US is different from UK and EU.
Also I vaguely remember selling counterfeit by mail is NO NO for USPS.

I wasn't at fault. They don’t give a warning

murdered_by_ebay 01-15-2025 02:13 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252241)
I wasn't at fault. They don’t give a warning

it does not matter what you think , this may look different from legal point of view

the account is definitely gone because these companies shut down accounts and expect you to get in contact with them so that a settlement could be negotiated , if you don't pay the account stays closed

agent006140 01-15-2025 02:15 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252241)
I wasn't at fault. They don’t give a warning

since when does Ebay give warnings?
if you are not at fault,why does Ebay suspend your account and the lawyer sent you letter?
what were you selling?

Sw489 01-15-2025 02:15 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1252264)
it does not matter what you think , this may look different from legal point of view

the account is definitely gone because these companies shut down accounts and expect you to get in contact with them so that a settlement could be negotiated , if you don't pay the account stays closed

What about the $250 for listing the item and $50,000 for statutory damages. Do they ever pursue for that?

agent006140 01-15-2025 02:41 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
if they have your real name and address and phone number,but nothing they can do if you ignore them

murdered_by_ebay 01-15-2025 04:01 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252266)
What about the $250 for listing the item and $50,000 for statutory damages. Do they ever pursue for that?

it is unknown but if you make contact you will increase this probability

in any case any contact must be avoided , if this should be pursued later you will still have an opportunity to take action , in most cases nothing happens

Sw489 01-16-2025 06:16 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1252275)
it is unknown but if you make contact you will increase this probability

in any case any contact must be avoided , if this should be pursued later you will still have an opportunity to take action , in most cases nothing happens

Do you know nothing happens for fact with people that deal with Sherinian law?

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 06:29 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
I suggest you test , write an email to them and tell them you do not want any problems , ask them what you need to do to make this problem go away

Sw489 01-16-2025 06:41 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
CONCLUSION
Plaintiff respectfully requests that the Court enter default and default judgment
against each Defaulting Defendants, including a corresponding profit award under 35
U.S.C. § 289, award statutory damages in the amount of fifty thousand dollars ($50,000)
per each Defaulting Defendant who also infringes the Kunshengze Copyrighted Works
pursuant to 17 U.S.C. § 504(c)(2), and a permanent injunction order prohibiting Defaulting
Defendants from selling Infringing Products. Plaintiff further seeks an order that all assets
in Defaulting Defendants’ financial accounts, up to the requested damages amount of
$250 for each Defaulting Defendant who only infringes Kunshengze Patent and $50,000
for each Defaulting Defendant who also infringes the Kunshengze Copyrighted Works,
including those operated by eBay, as well as any newly discovered assets, be transferred
to Plaintiff.



That's what the court paper says. Just ignore and I'll be fine? I have mc999 on my account and no money in my payout. If they just take the account without having to pay $50,000, thats fine.

aria7 01-16-2025 06:54 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
They're scaremongering 'ambulance chasers' who act on behalf of Chinese companies. Loads of them out there.



Work out of shared accommodation addresses to look important and only make money if sellers panic and fold.



I bet they've just sent you dummy papers to frighten you, I've had them myself.


DO NOT make any contact, once you do they have got you.



I've never been taken to court but if I am right, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, they have to quantify their clients loss. The arbitrary figure of $50,000 is simply to scare you.



100% guarantee that if you were stupid enough to contact them and told them the most you could pay was $5,000 they'd take it - because none of their winnings will go to their client and that's still more than they're looking to scalp out of this fishing trip.



All that said, if they did follow through and get you into court then clearly you would need to take legal advice.

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 07:34 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252296)
CONCLUSION
Plaintiff respectfully requests that the Court enter default and default judgment
against each Defaulting Defendants, including a corresponding profit award under 35
U.S.C. § 289, award statutory damages in the amount of fifty thousand dollars ($50,000)
per each Defaulting Defendant who also infringes the Kunshengze Copyrighted Works
pursuant to 17 U.S.C. § 504(c)(2), and a permanent injunction order prohibiting Defaulting
Defendants from selling Infringing Products. Plaintiff further seeks an order that all assets
in Defaulting Defendants’ financial accounts, up to the requested damages amount of
$250 for each Defaulting Defendant who only infringes Kunshengze Patent and $50,000
for each Defaulting Defendant who also infringes the Kunshengze Copyrighted Works,
including those operated by eBay, as well as any newly discovered assets, be transferred
to Plaintiff.



That's what the court paper says. Just ignore and I'll be fine? I have mc999 on my account and no money in my payout. If they just take the account without having to pay $50,000, thats fine.

did it come by mail or email?

Sw489 01-16-2025 08:10 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1252303)
did it come by mail or email?

Email

I have a mc999 on my eBay account

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 08:12 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
where did it come from? I mean email , company name etc.

Sw489 01-16-2025 08:28 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1252305)
where did it come from? I mean email , company name etc.

Shenzhen Kunshengze Electronic Commerce Co., Ltd.
v.
The Partnerships and Unincorporated Associations Identified on Schedule A, et al.

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 08:50 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252306)
Shenzhen Kunshengze Electronic Commerce Co., Ltd.
v.
The Partnerships and Unincorporated Associations Identified on Schedule A, et al.

was the email sent to you by the court?

Sw489 01-16-2025 08:52 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1252307)
was the email sent to you by the court?

No, Sherinian law themselves

Sw489 01-16-2025 08:54 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 

steve70000 01-16-2025 09:31 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 

rsot 01-16-2025 09:47 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Court documents sent by email are nothing - it has to be via registered mail to be valid - this law company likes to sucker the ppl who get scared into paying up.

OP, lots of decent advice have been given in the thread - is the account in stealth name or your real info?

Sw489 01-16-2025 10:03 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1252317)
Court documents sent by email are nothing - it has to be via registered mail to be valid - this law company likes to sucker the ppl who get scared into paying up.

OP, lots of decent advice have been given in the thread - is the account in stealth name or your real info?

My real information

Sw489 01-16-2025 10:17 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252321)
My real information

That’s a problem?

agent006140 01-16-2025 11:19 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
registered mail from private businesses mean nothing,

SaiJin 01-16-2025 11:36 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Ignore these bottom feeders who preys on fear

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 11:40 AM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252308)
No, Sherinian law themselves

you can ignore private mail , this system does not work in the US , if it were in germany or austria I would be concerned but in the US you reply only if you receive official court docs and they are obliged to send you such docs because you have a right to defense , they can not take that right from you

of course they could issue a temporary injunction but all this costs money , I doubt you will have anything more than losing the account

we have the same thing in the UK , taking people to court is tremendously expensive , there are exceptions for small claims but with what you have it would probably cost tens of thousands of pounds

Sw489 01-16-2025 12:30 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
They sent official court documents to my email, not my house mail

The conclusion paragraph I posted was pulled from the official court document

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 12:49 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
the court would need to send docs to you , the only thing that has happened so far is suspension of your ebay account as well as suspension of everybody else

what happens later you do not know

Sw489 01-16-2025 12:50 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1252329)
the court would need to send docs to you , the only thing that has happened so far is suspension of your ebay account as well as suspension of everybody else

what happens later you do not know

You mean sent to my house physical address? If they send it to house physical address, just ignore it?

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 12:53 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252330)
You mean sent to my house physical address? If they send it to house physical address, just ignore it?

you should not ignore if court sends something to you , any private mail does not matter

right now they are extorting sellers and trying to get hold of the frozen balances on ebay

you can abandon your account and it is good , I am sure there are people who would rather pay as their account is an important venue for them

Davfos 01-16-2025 02:45 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Unless you receive a recorded or signed-for letter via post, there’s no normally need to worry about. Emails alone are not considered sufficient evidence to initiate legal action or take the issue to court.

Many of these companies operate on behalf of large corporations to deter individuals from selling their products without consent, regardless of whether the items are authentic or counterfeit. Their primary objective is to discourage sales rather than directly pursuing financial compensation, as they are typically paid by the corporations themselves.

If you do receive a signed or recorded letter, seek legal advice and avoid engaging with them directly.

Sw489 01-16-2025 03:43 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
eBay issued saying their mc999 was from a court order from the Chinese company and their lawyer. Is that a problem? How are their able to mc999 an account with eBay without eBay messaging with a listing warning like vero. Did their lawyer find a loophole?

vettefever17 01-16-2025 03:44 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw489 (Post 1252308)
No, Sherinian law themselves

All major civil demands from a law firm are sent through certified mail if they're important. Court motions are through an officer showing up at your door. DO NOT contact them. They're fishing.

agent006140 01-16-2025 04:02 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
There are online legal forums where lawyers and lawyer wannabe offer free advice,why not ask them .

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 04:28 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
even if we assume there are different rules from state to state , any court would still need to contact the both parties directly although I am sure they would not do it by email

for now they just got an injunction which allowed them to get all ebay accounts restricted. the next step will be extortion of money from the owners of these accounts

those that do not pay may (MAY) be taken to court but I am sure they will not do it as it costs a lot of money , it is easier to just get hundreds more sellers suspended , a part will always pay

taking someone to court here is risky , they would need to prove that it is you selling the items , that these items are indeed infringing their rights , how many items you sold and probably more. it is just not worth it , spending money on this and the defendant may turn out to be a poor sucker who does not have this money anyway. USA counts as rich country but the vast majority of the population does not even have savings apart from a few thousand dollars

murdered_by_ebay 01-16-2025 04:39 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
if I were in their place I would just take the info from ebay how much money was frozen and depending on the amounts I would take those people to court where it is worth it , large sellers may indeed have tens of thousands of dollars on balance

Sw489 01-16-2025 04:44 PM

Re: Mc999 - Sherinian law
 
Luckily I cleared my payout just in time. It’s at 0. Maybe they’ll just take the account. Ebay shouldn’t allow these things to happen. The company could’ve warned me. You’re supposed to sell something new at least bought in the USA on eBay. There shouldn’t be a problem. In that way eBay is wrong.


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