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rsot 05-06-2025 08:28 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1257023)
Where is SAX4?

Leave that boss alone or pm him if you need him :lol:

x2ruff4u 05-08-2025 03:10 PM

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FYI guys it took me a long time as I've been doing this for so long, but eBay does ban you by social and name now. Some might go through, but it catches up to you eventually. I'm also assuming if you've been doing it for a long time or been banned too many times over the years lol...If that helps anyone

rsot 05-09-2025 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by x2ruff4u (Post 1257110)
FYI guys it took me a long time as I've been doing this for so long, but eBay does ban you by social and name now. Some might go through, but it catches up to you eventually. I'm also assuming if you've been doing it for a long time or been banned too many times over the years lol...If that helps anyone

Welcome back to the big show :thumb:

sam999 05-21-2025 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by x2ruff4u (Post 1257110)
FYI guys it took me a long time as I've been doing this for so long, but eBay does ban you by social and name now. Some might go through, but it catches up to you eventually. I'm also assuming if you've been doing it for a long time or been banned too many times over the years lol...If that helps anyone

What do you mean "by social"?

Automasters 05-21-2025 11:54 AM

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I don't think it's dead, we just need to be more crafty ;)

agent006140 05-26-2025 07:37 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
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Originally Posted by jt_infamous (Post 1256450)
my theroy is that theres a ratio they hope to have. People coming and selling with no purchase isn’t good business. Hence why they ban you but still allow you to buy. Its lowkey hard to get banned from purchasing on ebay

-No,a person can lose his buying privilege but not his selling privilege - a seller in rural MExico filed too many INR on cheap trinklets he bought on Ebay,they were sent with no tracking .
In his area,any package coming from USA must be valuable ,so theft is common !
Ebay suspended his buying privilege as he is a hazard to the Ebay seller community !! )

murdered_by_ebay 05-26-2025 07:50 AM

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ebay have too many sellers , buyers are always welcome

they may suspend buyers too but that would be for suspicious buying activity , for example buying high risk items or using suspicious payment methods , especially cards from entities that are abused often , like payoneer for example

otherwise if it is a regular buying activity limited in size in terms of $$$ they do not mind

agent006140 05-26-2025 08:14 AM

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Buying with virtual VISA cards sold by scammers who steal our cc data to buy these cards and resell them at deep discount quickly before we find out.
There was a time AMZN would not accept its own virtual prepaid VISA cards !

Karlis96 05-26-2025 09:27 AM

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I think it will no longer be possible to create many accounts and treat them lightly, as it was before. If you block them, nothing will open the next one, or like others, there were about 50 active accounts

murdered_by_ebay 05-26-2025 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1257799)
I think it will no longer be possible to create many accounts and treat them lightly, as it was before. If you block them, nothing will open the next one, or like others, there were about 50 active accounts

you mean you lost 50?

Karlis96 05-26-2025 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1257800)
you mean you lost 50?

I have lost well over 50 accounts in the process of creating accounts. All of the lost accounts have been since January of this year.

aking 05-27-2025 10:00 PM

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I will say this forum helped me become very successful seller 20 years ago. The Stealth Book helped me personally tremendously, however I will say this was 15-20 years ago.

Karlis96 05-28-2025 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by aking (Post 1257878)
I will say this forum helped me become very successful seller 20 years ago. The Stealth Book helped me personally tremendously, however I will say this was 15-20 years ago.

I think the problem is no longer in the book, but in the AI ​​that eBay itself uses.

rsot 05-28-2025 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1257881)
I think the problem is no longer in the book, but in the AI ​​that eBay itself uses.

Correct - and over time some tools and resources cited in the book have become dated and easily identifiable :(

dabuds420 05-28-2025 09:08 AM

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All about learning on the job these days, I'm always trying new methods and strategies until the code is cracked. 6 months later, there is a new code to crack haha, all part of the game.

Karlis96 05-28-2025 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257911)
All about learning on the job these days, I'm always trying new methods and strategies until the code is cracked. 6 months later, there is a new code to crack haha, all part of the game.

interesting how you crack ebay’s AI

dabuds420 05-28-2025 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1257923)
interesting how you crack ebay’s AI

Trial and error and obsessive research.

matthewhon112 05-29-2025 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257927)
Trial and error and obsessive research.

have you cracked it recently?

dabuds420 05-29-2025 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewhon112 (Post 1257967)
have you cracked it recently?

It seems that way, I have made 5 personal accounts within the last 72 hours all have been able to list without the re-activate error, all have £38k/5k item monthly limits.

Just getting sales now and slowly building them up, so far so good!

matthewhon112 05-29-2025 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257972)
It seems that way, I have made 5 personal accounts within the last 72 hours all have been able to list without the re-activate error, all have £38k/5k item monthly limits.

Just getting sales now and slowly building them up, so far so good!

any chance your willing to share what your doing differently?

kirkland 05-29-2025 12:28 PM

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Im with the above posters, its definitely harder than it was in pre-2022 years to easily create stealth accounts. And you definitely cant create then in the same volume you used to be able to (eg double digits per day).

It was giving me major issues a few months back, every new account I made was getting suspended. But I think I figured it out since the past handful of accounts Ive made have all had no issue.

All I can say is, take it slow, and be very deliberate. Focus on creating accounts that get 5k+ limits right off the bat. If you get some 15/month limit, most likely it'll either be suspended, or you'll have to call in to 'reactivate it' which is hit or miss (maybe 50% success rate).

dabuds420 05-29-2025 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewhon112 (Post 1257978)
any chance your willing to share what your doing differently?

Unfortunately I cannot. I hate to gatekeep. However it has taken me months on end, nobody was quick to assist me regarding this.

I'm sure many others veteran sellers are also clued in on how this works but didn't care to share either.

Karlis96 05-29-2025 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257985)
Unfortunately I cannot. I hate to gatekeep. However it has taken me months on end, nobody was quick to assist me regarding this.

I'm sure many others veteran sellers are also clued in on how this works but didn't care to share either.

I know many who have such limits specifically for UK accounts. A lot depends on the country where the account is opened. So it may seem like you are cracking something, but in reality it is different and those who read this from another country where it is more difficult to open an account think that you have a success story. I also had such accounts with such limits until the end of 2024 and in January 2025 everything changed. I think that there is a ratio of purchases and sales, if purchases are less than sales by some set coefficient then why do you need sellers? Another thing could be AI that sees parallels with similar accounts, including behavior. I don't believe that one person can crack a security system worth millions that has been created by countless IT specialists for years.

dabuds420 05-29-2025 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1257987)
I know many who have such limits specifically for UK accounts. A lot depends on the country where the account is opened. So it may seem like you are cracking something, but in reality it is different and those who read this from another country where it is more difficult to open an account think that you have a success story. I also had such accounts with such limits until the end of 2024 and in January 2025 everything changed. I think that there is a ratio of purchases and sales, if purchases are less than sales by some set coefficient then why do you need sellers? Another thing could be AI that sees parallels with similar accounts, including behavior. I don't believe that one person can crack a security system worth millions that has been created by countless IT specialists for years.

I used to fully agree with you a few months back, thinking it was all down to eBay managing sellers to fit the demand or lack thereof of buyers. But honestly now I think that’s mostly BS.

There are ways to get high limit accounts without triggering reactivation or bans, it just comes down to figuring out the right strategy. I’ve been testing non stop and finally found something that works.

At this point, I only have experience working with eBay UK, and for a lot of people it's been proving quite hard to be successful there nowadays. However, I genuinely think I could make it work in any country, it's all about being persistent in testing new methods.

kirkland 05-29-2025 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257990)
I used to fully agree with you a few months back, thinking it was all down to eBay managing sellers to fit the demand or lack thereof of buyers. But honestly now I think that’s mostly BS.

There are ways to get high limit accounts without triggering reactivation or bans, it just comes down to figuring out the right strategy. I’ve been testing non stop and finally found something that works.

At this point, I only have experience working with eBay UK, and for a lot of people it's been proving quite hard to be successful there nowadays. However, I genuinely think I could make it work in any country, it's all about being persistent in testing new methods.

I posted a few comments above you about how I recently found some success in creating new accounts. Does your method allow you to create in large volumes (eg multi accounts per day)? Or are you moreso going about at a slower rate (for me, right now, 1 account/day is working without issue and I havent tried to push it since Im happy with my recent method)

dabuds420 05-29-2025 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 1257994)
I posted a few comments above you about how I recently found some success in creating new accounts. Does your method allow you to create in large volumes (eg multi accounts per day)? Or are you moreso going about at a slower rate (for me, right now, 1 account/day is working without issue and I havent tried to push it since Im happy with my recent method)

Since finding success with my new method, I’ve created five accounts over the past seven days. I wouldn’t consider that high volume but everyone's interpretation is different, although three were made just yesterday alone.

So far, it seems scalable. All accounts have active listings with no hiccups. The oldest ones already have completed sales and successful payouts with no issues at all. I plan to keep scaling in case eBay changes things again.

rsot 05-30-2025 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1258000)
Since finding success with my new method, I’ve created five accounts over the past seven days. I wouldn’t consider that high volume but everyone's interpretation is different, although three were made just yesterday alone.

So far, it seems scalable. All accounts have active listings with no hiccups. The oldest ones already have completed sales and successful payouts with no issues at all. I plan to keep scaling in case eBay changes things again.

Very interesting - that's solid success with your new method and just yesterday, wow

dabuds420 05-30-2025 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1258012)
Very interesting - that's solid success with your new method and just yesterday, wow

Yes, I do not want to speak too soon but so far it seems to be working very well. I am very relieved, it was almost crunch time... I need to begin selling again.

matthewhon112 06-05-2025 11:29 PM

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Has anyone in the US have any success as of recent

james_112233 06-06-2025 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1258024)
Yes, I do not want to speak too soon but so far it seems to be working very well. I am very relieved, it was almost crunch time... I need to begin selling again.

I doubt it will last if you're selling volume / high revenue. That always triggers many manual checks over time.

rsot 06-06-2025 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewhon112 (Post 1258346)
Has anyone in the US have any success as of recent

What's your niche/market of sales? Nothing problematic right?

dabuds420 06-06-2025 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1258349)
I doubt it will last if you're selling volume / high revenue. That always triggers many manual checks over time.

It will if you have 10-20 account's spreading revenue.

CadnFX 06-07-2025 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by solefoodbk (Post 1257020)
The principles of stealth still apply. Many here have done this over 10 years, some 20 years. You don't probably think what comes so natural, however it's not common sense. When I first started doing this, I didn't even know IP caused a link. You have to learn that.

The basics of account creation, and everything taught here is why I've been able to make new accounts with plenty other marketplaces not actively discussed.

Example: I had a customer on Poshmark about a month ago buy two things from me. He then got randomly suspended. Who knows what happened, but I continued to check his account. He was active almost 3 weeks, everyday after his suspension. And he did not fix it. Me? The last Poshmark account which was my first account I had 2018-2024 it got suspended over 20+ times, reinstated throughout that. Now my current account hasn't faced a problem in nearly a year because I learned Poshmark algorithms That is stealth.

No one here that has an active eBay account, without it being your first account is practicing some version of stealth. I said it before but even when eBay was with Paypal, you eventually graduated Paypal to business with EIN. That was no longer "stealth", but it was just the same. If you can stay on any marketplace after having got suspended, regardless the means, that is stealth.

Hi, great information.
Wdym you had a single Poshmark get banned 20x, they kept reinstating you?

I got banned on Posh and would like to sell on it again. Currently running a single stealth. You can make more on Posh than eBay in certain niches - using a bot extension like PosherVA. It keeps your listings at the top constantly by "sharing" it (even with yourself).

moderntrends 06-22-2025 05:24 PM

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I understand people want to keep their methods for themselves and for good reason, but man is it frustrating. People are having issues with stealth and need answers that they can't find from the guide, so they are told to go to the forum for answers, but the people on the forums won't share any type of info on how they are successful. I understand not sharing your entire method, but this is a forum made to help one another so that we can all be successful. It would be nice if more people would share something that could help steer people in the right direction, especially with how difficult things have been for the past year.

rsot 06-23-2025 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by moderntrends (Post 1258919)
I understand people want to keep their methods for themselves and for good reason, but man is it frustrating. People are having issues with stealth and need answers that they can't find from the guide, so they are told to go to the forum for answers, but the people on the forums won't share any type of info on how they are successful. I understand not sharing your entire method, but this is a forum made to help one another so that we can all be successful. It would be nice if more people would share something that could help steer people in the right direction, especially with how difficult things have been for the past year.

Sometimes you have to reach out in dms to ppl you figure might be wise - remember that prime info isn't necessarily free (Sad to say) so even if my shoes, I don't expect useful info to always be openly available let alone shared. Contributing and helping members does help access but even these days, in my shoes, I can't say there that I am privy to tested and true methods.

It takes one bad egg or freeloader to jeopardize solid methods so...wise ppl know this - /shrug it is what it is - have to keep at it

Camaro2SS 06-25-2025 05:08 AM

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I believe no one in this group should reveal their methods, especially not in public when we know 100% eBay is reading these posts. I am sure many of the exploits we found through trial and error and then published in stealth book were studied by ebay risk management team. In fact I suspect that eBay keeps this site alive for so many years specifically to get feedback or else it would have been already raided by the FBI many years ago.

barcyglobe 06-25-2025 09:19 PM

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it's definitely tough and unfair. I can't even get back on to sell an authentic pair of jeans or a used hp laptop. i'm watching other sellers sell replica watches with moissanite stones, stolen airpods, and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ louis v clutches. and they sell like 10 in a week. what a bummer - ebay is.

kirkland 06-28-2025 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by barcyglobe (Post 1258989)
it's definitely tough and unfair. I can't even get back on to sell an authentic pair of jeans or a used hp laptop. i'm watching other sellers sell replica watches with moissanite stones, stolen airpods, and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ louis v clutches. and they sell like 10 in a week. what a bummer - ebay is.

How can you tell theyre stolen?

sax4 06-28-2025 03:24 AM

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I haven't made any accounts in a couple of months,but back then the same old tried and tested methods worked from back in the day. Details do not need to be real from the outset.

violin68 07-29-2025 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1259079)
I haven't made any accounts in a couple of months,but back then the same old tried and tested methods worked from back in the day. Details do not need to be real from the outset.

Definitely huge updates have been made these past few months


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