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OK guys-challenge to figure out what happened/whats EBAY DOING NOW TO SUSPEND PEOPLE?
 

15 minutes ago I lost several active userids. I challenge you guys to help me figure out what happened.

All were created using the game plan specified in this website EXACTLY. The plan I've been using for YEARS successfully.

What was really bizarre, was I received the same email to every name- it was actually one of the old-school names where they tell you you were linked to a suspended name! And they named a suspended name WHICH WAS NOT MINE!!

What could have happened?


MY THEORY is either they traced the MAC addess on my computer, or they linked up to my MARKETWORKS account??


This must be a new technique because I've used the same auctionworks account for years.

You ran out of luck and logged in through an IP that has been used by someone else's account ...someone that got suspended too :)

or-your competitor found u out?

I considered both of those. But I had brand-new stuff on 3 of the names that I've never sold before.

And that is some bad luck- getting ahold of 8 IP addresses used by formerly suspended people.

No, i agree. I have been on ebay since the very early years. (Remember when they used to give 10 free listings:)) Anyway, they are definitely tracking something different. They are hard targeting entire ip ranges and title descriptions an new accounts.

Don't think they are tracking MACs but they are easy to change using SMAC 2.0 for those of you with cable modems it is an easy way to change your ip if your router does not easily release.

Yeah, I analyzed the IP address ranges and my surviving accounts all used the same IP ranges as the dead ones.

I use system mechanic to clean my comp all the time, but sometimes it says to reboot, and never did before. Maybe that new thing they are leaving on my computer can't be erased without rebooting, or can't be erased at all?

Also, it has been 2 weeks at least since I signed into ebay using any of those suspended names, so they must have been saving it all up for last night for their system maintenance.

PS.I remember when you could register in a foreign country and sell without a credit card.

where do u download system mechanic ? and dose it work good for clear all the junk that sites put on your pc to track/spy on u

you logged in on a bad ip that it..you got got. you slipped up somehow rather you remember or not..

8 different ip addresses, though? I have a spreadsheet with all of them logged and cross-referenced. None are the same.

Which again begs the question that what if someone goes to a public computer who is suspended, will every person thereafter who uses that internet cafe to go on ebay be suspended too?

You can google system mechanic and find it that way. It is supposed to clean everything.

I started the thread in the ebay discussion section a few days ago about the same thing. I had 6 go down. And while the were all different they were all in the same range of about 4-5 combos starting combos were XXX are total different. Example:
74:124:XXX:XXX
24:236:XXX:XXX
6:23:XXX:XX
70:89:XXX:XX
67:226:XX:XXX

So while the complete ip address are all completely different the 2 starting prefixs are only 1 of 5 possible from my ISP.

You want to trade buying accounts?

I came up with the same conclusion about range.

now as for MAC addresses, are those still readable even if you are on dial up and have disabled your associated network cards? Forgive me for not knowing a lot about this stuff.

I don't have any buyer accounts set up now. They're all seller accounts I'm AFRAID to use right now.

Is this the first time you've had a bunch of names go down like this?

Probably, if they are using that computer to sell which virtually no one would do.

You can have SMAC 2.0 create a random mac address if you are using a router or network card. Not sure if you are going dial-up route. Run SMAC 2.0 and see if finds any network cards or anything else.

Still I think someone else here said that they need a java app to capture you MAC. So it is unlikely they are using it. More then likely title descriptions on item and ip ranges.I have no problem opening selling accounts, just listing "banned" items. The thing that get us so mad is the power sellers they let sell the same exact item.

i have a network card that came up. we have 4 computers on a wireless network here, but we only access ebay using dial up.

as for my merchandise, i don't sell anything taboo/banned, i just don't like to pay my ebay bills.

What about some sort of machine hardware number that can be identified?


As for my computer name, it's "computer." not sure if that's a link or not. BUt the name on the network is something else. Should I change my LAN name?

Ip address is only a factor in the suspension process not the MAIN factor. They dont be like oh he/she is using a suspended ip lets suspend him. They need more proof. Such as address, email, auction items, style, etc..

You can change tyour windows registration info this way.
copy and save your original name and number in case you need to change it back.

I have sellers account with false info linked to Virtual credit card with 0 balance. Do you want to trade seller accounts? As long as you pay your ebay fees before the try to change the card you should be ok.


# Click Start and click Run.
# Type regedit and click OK.
# Expand the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion
# In the right pane, double click RegisteredOrganization.
# Type in the new organization name and click OK.
# Double click RegisteredOwner.
# Type in the new name of the registered owner and click OK.

I respectfully disagree. I had account going strong untill i log in to the account with suspended ip to relist the auctions.

It has to be something more than just the same IP. I use 6 dial-up providers and recently one account got killed. I registered a new account the next day with the exact same IP, down to the last number, just with a different name, address, etc. and the account is still going nearly a week after and 30+ items sold. I'm also selling the same product again.

So they're not targeting, at least from my experience, just the IP. It's got to be the IP and perhaps the same city, zip code, etc.

By the way, there is no legal way for eBay to discover your MAC address, that's a myth. They would need to be on the same network as you (aka. in your house) or hack into your network, also highly unlikely and again not legal.

So bottom line, they can NOT detect your MAC address.

On my dial-up account at least, the ip changes every time you log in. So getting the same ip the next day would be pretty hard. Are you saying you have a static ip address on your dail-up?
And why are your accounts getting killed if you are not selling "banned" items?

As a test I opened 2 accounts on the same day. using different info. Then starting selling on one. When it was suspended the other account was also suspended even though I never add a CC to sell and never logged back into it. As soon as they suspend one account, any registered with the same IP address usually will suspended also.

ebay and I go waaaaay back. i don't pay my bills and that's why a have a zillion suspended names.

i get different dial up ip addys, i was just wondering about what specifically a mac address is and does?

is there such a thing as a "hardware id" on your computer that can be detected?

I'm really thinking that i messed up an opened an email from a suspended name and then got a cookie that detected when I opened emails from other names subsequent to reading that email. BUT, I don't display pictures when opening emails.

I just can't figure out why they got 8, and left the other 9 alone(for now)

Some of my dial-up providers have a static IP. Reason for this is that the entire ISP uses a proxy gateway. All of its users, about 500,000 have the same IP. Very likely many of them use eBay, so eBay can't just suspend all accounts on that IP. They have to match more of it than just the IP.

Some of my accounts get killed for stupid reasons, like listing too much or doing too many changes aka violating the spirit of eBay. You got to find out what you can do and what you can't. Some accounts get suspended because competitors report my listings as VERO, even though I'm selling the same thing as them. It happens.

All this IP address talk it making me laugh my A$$ off. I can see most have no idea what each octet represents. I recommend people to take CCNA 1-4 then comment about IP's. You guys are killing me......:)

I do think its possible for ebay to suspend because of an IP address however for suspending for an entire rage is insane. Tou IT guys know what I am saying....

i'm 99.9% positive they are not able to detect MAC address on NIC cards.

People are getting suspended due to slacking off and not following the steps to stay on ebay.

Using the same IP to log into each ebay account will get you suspended.

An example, say you have 3 ebay accounts working and active. You mostly can use the same IP to log into each account and get away with it until something happens to one of the accounts then all other accounts that are attached to that IP will also go down.

Main account can use a static IP however other accounts need a dynamic or separate static IP

People use library's and schools however I can't see how this is a good idea. If eBay received enough troubled issues from accounts from one IP, they are all most likely going to go byebye.

Do yourself a favor and get yourself an old fashion land line and use dial up. Running multiple accounts can be all done from home.

Of course it's impossible for them to suspend and ban every IP that has ever had to do with a suspended user. For example, if you use eBay for 3 years on a dial-up, you most likely logged on with hundreds of IPs. Say your account then gets suspended, they cannot possibly then suspend all the people that have ever used an IP that you have. They would run out of customers fairly quickly that way, because everyone will be connected to everyone in some way.

You misunderstood the about the entire ip range. They are not banning whole range of ip blocks, but certain 2 place prefixs of brand new accounts.

To give it a try, I just made a new account using the exact same IP that was suspended 2 days ago, but everything else including name, address, etc. is different. We'll see how it goes, so far so good.

POP QUIZ HOTSHOTS:
I never change my IP address, nor ask my provider, I dont do anything actually that involves router, modem, but here is the kicker Im still on ebay just under different name. hows that possible.........

imjustme,i could tell you registered a lots of ebay accounts and i was wondering where did u get so many phone numbers to register with?

3.99/month- tossable digits...

Geez, some of you are spilling way to much direct info. Now you know Ebay and their snitches monitor this forum. Its cool to give help and lead the person in the right direction, but I think we should try not to give direct sources, except for in a PM.

I use virtual phone numbers. Costs me about $10 a piece here. Sometimes I use a family member's phone number or if I'm out of those and virtual numbers for the moment, I have my wife call one of her 50 girlfriends and use theirs :D

PM me, i have an answer for ya.

First you probably don't sell Vero or "banned" items, second your account is probably more then 30 days old, you probaly have legit feedback.
Also, most ip addresses are dynamic, you actual have to pay extra to get a same static ip.
Once you have a certian number of feedback, or powerseller you can pretty much sell what you want, untill a vero complains at least 2-3 times.
Regular ebay is fairly easy to get back on .
Also, ebay motors is harder to get back on once you screw them for a couple of car postings.

if you use dial up are you okay with the ip address issue??

Check your ip with IP Chicken - Whats my IP address? ip address lookup and see if it changes everytime you use dial-up. I bad ip address will get your account flagged for a closer look, but might not get you automatically banned.

Do you mean Octets?

I hear that.

As bad as I want to share all that I have learned, I am finding is necessary to hold back some discoveries. It's my opinion that this forum is infested with eBay employees. This is now an open forum. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!

I think its time that some of us might want to create an alternative way of communicating with a selected group of people.

We should always come back to this forum because it contains a vast amount of information that can be accessed.

I just have a bad feeling that ebay is going to make things extremely difficult for us in 2008