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Hey anything to get you drunk and off the board ;)

Actually I will post more when I'm drunk..heheh

And make more sense probably too. lol

Jack your on my ignore list now so dont even waste your time anymore

Thats what i'll do . thanks mod

sorry chris, i missed your opening statement about it being an email..


dude, delete the email and keep on going. f*** an email. if they were really on to you they would send you a letter, or try to serve you in person.


i post alot when i'm drunk too. lot more fun that way!!

Likewise Chris. And don't PM me with your garbage anymore either, oh king of time waste.

yea i sort of agree with this... but as ur home address might be wrong ?? is there something written in the email delivered by post and email??? and what have they asked for i mean how do they want u to respond? written statement or email ?

They said I can respond bu email or mail. The letter was delivered by email with a PDF attachment with my ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info on it......

If you search this thread it will tell you what they asked for me.

I mean it dint sound really serious just a default canned letter but you know Im still going to take it seriously..

like the new avatar photo chris.

there did come a point in my early years that i was in BIG legal trouble. after getting nowhere but more paranoid (weed had nothing to do with my paranoia this time i swear!!) trying to figure it all out myself, i finally broke down and got a paid for lawyer. 3 days later i was back up and running with impunity. anybody that even tried to question what i was doing were reffered straight to my lawyer and got his "F.You we'll counter sue" letter. the guy totally earned his money.

if you are worried that much (i was ready to move out of state and change my name) talk to a lawyer. it is worth the money in the long run. if it's at the worst possible stage he'll be like "dude, change your name and move out of state" at least you'll know for sure!


my situation was a little bit different from yours. i was being investigated. when you're being investigated you most likely WILL KNOW IT. everyone you know will be calling you saying "hey man, there were these people here asking questions about you"

I wouldn't sweat it...real cease and desist letters come by certified mail.

Well they said they sent it via mail too but since I used ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info I will never receive it.

Lol that thing, people are doing it now. I got one that was funny. Mmm it went like

Dear blah blah

We are letting you know we had to hire the best lawyer on in our state blah blah we are currently in a lawsuit with www. Xxxx . com we hope you be aware of this for what you are selling blah blah. So please know what you are doing.

I had one before also. It was like the same thing but without a site and more bs

i have a feeling that the people are in this forum also ^^ I bet my shiny peny

Oh i see sorry, btw what are you selling to recieve that letter?_? If you dont mind me asking.

isnt the point of this forum getting back on ebay and staying for good rather than commiting same mistakes again n again n again just to be suspended again? if u donot stop from wat u were doing it clearly means u were right in the firt place to get booted

powerbid:


that depends. some people here may have made one mistake and are truly only interested in getting back on and staying on, with one good account. problem is once you're off, it's really hard to stay back on for long no matter what you sell.

others on this site sell questionable items and will be booted again sooner rather than later, usually. these guys share info they need with each other on this forum. nothing wrong with it. i am glad aspkin lets it all ride and does not censor anybody.

trick is to take out of it what YOU need. not to judge what other people may be doing. then again, this is an open forum and we all have an opinion right?


at least that is how i'm trying to look at things.

you might be in bad shape. they may be lying about sending it by mail, but if not.... watch out. is there anyway they can track you down?

⊗⊗⊗⊗ info.. I told them I am not selling it anymore so I should be cool. They can track me down easily if they wanted to go through all the hoops.

I mean who couldnt get tracked down these days

spike1 yes i do agree 100% what u said.. theres absolutly nothing wrong with seeking info u r looking for infact every1 of us are here for a the same reason..

exactly. we're all doing something wrong, or at least against ebay's policies.

in a world of black and white, there is no gray area.

check the email address. if it's the company, they would probably send it under @brandname.com if they are serious, or @lawfirm.com. You could probably suss out who sent it.

This could be bull****. Few years back got a notice from a Vero Company telling me C AND D some stuff of theirs I was selling.

It came from the official site meaning. dude@Verocompany.com
Like the others are saying it could be a competitor or a scammer. In my letter they never asked for my stuff or my providers or etc. This mail sounds fishy. A lawyer can issue one so make sure you track down this lawyer and see if its legit.

The account just got killed for "7 days", according to eBay's suspension notice, but I guess I will just write it off. Moving on to the other accounts. Admitted, I sell brand name items from over here in Japan, but they're authentic from the same factory that produces them for the retail shops, no difference. They just go out through the back door by the factory owner.

I list them for about 40% of the retail price, so I wonder if I should start listing them at the retail price and see if I still get the boot. Or start the listings on Friday early morning, so they end over the weekend? :D So far all my listings that ran through the weekend were OK.

VERO - Some trademark holders going too far..
 

I listed a few authentic items on eBay that I bought at a fraction of the price after the shop closed down. Now I listed them for the actual retail price on eBay and even included high resolution images of the original tags, with barcode, sticker, etc. So far so good, the auction ended and ...guess what? I get a VERO email saying the trademark holder complained to eBay about a counterfeit item. No chance, I bought this from one of their own shops that closed down. I emailed the trademark holder, but so far no response.

To shut down counterfeits seems alright to me, but authentic items that were made and produced by the company, and then them not allowing you to sell them is unacceptable.

That's eBay for you. :(

Yeah I tell people all the time......it does not matter if your item is authentic or a knockoff you will get verod, it really does not matter, at all.

imjustme follow tabberones advice she had kicked big vero *******s

some companys simply don't want their sh*t sold on ebay...real or ⊗⊗⊗⊗

Thats crazy.

If I'm not mistaken, I think he did say a while back that he gets them from China.

I was VeRO'd once because I sold an item below the company's allowed reselling price, not because they were counterfeit. So they do VeRO for different reasons other than being counterfeit. imjustme I think your items were counterfeit or at the least, you have a history of selling counterfeit items on ebay so EB (and the companies) assume you are continuing to sell counterfeits. Yes im being accusatious but im open to what you have to say.

Longisland,

you cant get busted on ebay for selling a item below the reselling price. Its a auction...

they were not auctions they were BIN.. but I think the company would have done the same if I was having more than 1 auction end every day below their resale minimum. Also I did not even buy the product from the company directly, I bought it from another reseller so I never even had to sign their contract.. but I was still aware of it.

If I sold counterfeits, I'd tell you, honestly. I buy things from Japan mainly. The same products (even electronics) are a lot cheaper than in the US/Europe over here. I do get the majority of the items I sell on eBay directly from the factory. The trademark owner has them produced over here because its cheaper and the factory owners don't mind selling on a few hundreds or even thousands of items to others for a fraction of the price. Its the same thing, down to the last little detail.

But obviously, if the original sells for $120 and I list it on eBay starting at $45, I get VERO'd.

umm... I'm pretty sure you can't get the items cheaper in Japan for a fraction of the price if it's real... I lived there for MANY years and it's extremely expensive and the currency conversion will eat you up...

If you go directly to the factories (of course, not in downtown Tokyo), you can. I can buy an item wholesale for $15 that goes in the shops for over $100. And that's when buying 20 pieces. If I bought 100 or 200 I could get an even better price.

I'll give you a few examples tomorrow, the sun is coming up here already and I need sleep.

Yeah your probably selling the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ copies. Like copy nokias and so forth..

Also your on a china or japan ip address, which will put your account in the hot seat with ebay

and I agree Japan electronics is not cheaper then in the US unless there knockoffs

Even Akihabara ain't that cheap!

I'm not sure if this matters but I seem to get more VERO'd with BIN then with auctions. I think selling items for 80 (BIN) is more obvious when the item retails for 300. At least the price of an auction is out of your control. Just my opinion...

I just got a cease and desist letter, supposedly from a law firm. The letter was pdfed with the lawyer's signature, but not on the law firm's stationary. They're also asking for a money order or cashier's check for $350. Sounds like a scam to me.