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Hello All!
First I want to say that I have read the forums and you all have some interesting ideas and aspkin has a nice guide to follow. So here I am I will share some things with you all, but I will tell you about my mistake first. I was naru'd about 7 years ago (stupid really) but I just setup another account and moved on. A couple of days ago when I went to revise an item ebay ebay would not let me until I verified my paypal account. It was late and I was not thinking so I click the link and verified. I was then allowed to revise and go to bed... none the less the next morning I was naru'd :eek: . Then it it hit me that the reason was because that paypal account was associated with my old naru'd account. "No information will be shared" well that statement is BS so don't buy it.

Don't worry it is only a flesh wound, I still have my other accounts as I was prepared. Here is how I do it and where I agree with the guide. :)

Note: When I go to create an account I do it all in one session from one IP address thru AOL.
1) Get a new email account - AOL is now free and this is great as ebay assumes that you are paying for the service so they do not give you a hassle like with other email accounts.
2) Download AOL software to be able to sign on as a guest. The reason for this is because each time you sign on thru AOL it is a different IP address. Even for cable/DSL, remember to do it all in one session.
3) Get a prepard card like using simon cards or from a store. Reloadable if you want.
4) Create an ebay account with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address and phone number keep it within your area. Use google maps if you need to see the streets within your area.
5) Create a paypal account with the same information as the Ebay account.
6) Get a free hosting account. Right now Auctiva is allowing you to use their services for free
Then lets the accounts sleep for awhile - no activity at all.
The goal is to create 1 account a day so by the time you are at the 31st account you are ready to begin to play.

How to a play -- Simply by buying things not cheap not expensive but things that you will need. I personally buy shipping supplies as I know I will need them and you build your feedback. I also do not go on a buying spree all in one day. Each day purchase something with your various accounts and allow them to grow. I never pay for anything with paypal as the information for the time being is ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and you wont get your items you paid for.
Think of your ebay ids as children, you need to nuture them and watch them grow. Before you know it they are ready for the big leagues.

OK, Now that the kids are ready to get out there and swing for the fences what do I do...
1) I go and get a savings account. You can even get them online now with most banks without leaving the house.
2) I get a PO Box (6 months rental), You can get them from post offices or UPS now.
2) I get my prepaid card out that I purchased.
3) I get a prepaid cell phone. Cheap crap that means nothing. In case ebay wants to call me... lol
4) 1 week before I will begin to sell I open up my ebay and paypal account that I want to sell on and update the information. (note: this is why you when you set them up you keep the addresses within your area or if you made the mistake of putting in an address that is away from where you are then you need to go get a po box in that area. Use the reason that you work in the area and it is easier to pick your mail up there if they ask).
5) I then am ready to list auctions of which I start with some "household type" of items, if you need items buy them at thrift stores, flea markets or buy a closeout pallet to start you off. I list between 10 - 15 items for the 1st week and slowly increase the number. One thing to note here is that I have anywhere between 5 - 8 accounts running auctions which is around 50 - 120 items a week. Spread it around it is worth it. This may seem like a lot of work but in the long run it is not especailly if you are making good money. I have not gone back to work for corporate america for approx. 8 years.
6) I almost forgot - get the paypal debit card to use to pay your ebay fees. (if you want)

Items I use to help control the mayhem.
1) An index card system with every single account that I have and any information associated with them.
2) An excel spreadsheet with all the names and addresses that I used, this way you do not use the same name or address by accident.
3) I use stamps.com for shipping I will not chance using paypal for this.
4) I am fortunate enough to have a desktop and a mac laptop with bootcamp installed (1/2 mac and 1/2 windows) and my accounts are associated by which system I used to set them up. This way if it is the computer info that they use to get you I will still have 2/3 of my accounts available for use.

Rules -
1) If your account is Naru'd and the buyer pays ship them the item do not take your anger for ebay out on the customer besides you might sell to them again in the future.
2) Walk do not run
3) Dont screw the customer as this will raise the biggest problems plus it is bad karma.
4) Never email ebay about anything
5) try to answer your customers directly from your email account not thru the ebay system.

I am sure I forgot something and will come back to add more and share more. I hope some of this helps and will share more. Best of luck!

I forgot some other things that I wanted to add before going to bed. Open other online accounts to accept payment or get a merchant account if you can.

Use craigslist to sell some items as well as this also helps get people over to your auctions. Follow craigslists rules though. You will also be amazed as how much stuff you can sell off of craigslist.

Excellent! Great Guide! It's hardcore and requires a dedicated person, but it'll work! I love the AOL free service part, I forgot about that gem.

So when you buy something, what payment method do you use (credit card or money order) and how do you tell the seller your ebay address is wrong to ship to?

So you have 8 accounts with 8 PO Boxes? I think they're $12 a month cheapest at the post office and $22 a month cheapest at the UPS store.

How do you receive payment generally?

What do you do if customers find out that multiple accounts with multiple name are yours -- like if all the accounts all have the same DBA name like "Acme Inc." on the credit card statement? Or what if a person buys two of your items at once or buys from one of your accounts then later buys from a different one?

Feebay Ballin your guide is the bomb!

I'm going to have to study this in some detail - 'a new account every day for 31 days' WOW that is hardcore!

I thought I was crazy juggling 8 accounts at a time LOL

This really is superb stuff m8! pat yourself on the back my friend

Thanks Aspkin, I appreciated the comment. Yes, AOL is a great gem.

Jonas - Hope all is well with you. Here are the answers.

1) When I buy something - I send the payment by money order or check - I state the shipping address I want them to ship to, I also reference it is a gift. Most sellers do not care about the address with the M.O. or check as long as the funds are good. They also want positive feedback so they ship to the address you state. This does not work with paypal as most (including me) will only ship to the confirmed address to avoid chargebacks.

2) Yes, I actually have 10 PO boxes right now, 2 in a different state. I am on the border of NJ/NY. My town is a goofy place we actually have 3 post offices within 10 miles of each other. Now you have to be legit with the information with the PO but the mail that comes in does not have to match the box owner. Especially if you setup the box as a company. The other key to remember is variations for the address. For example: I have box # 235
The addresses that can used are PO Box, Box, Suite or even Apt. You can also use the address of the road the USPS or UPS is on and change that up a bit. Also, The cost of the box is nothing if you are selling and it should be considered a cost of doing business. This is also why I recommend only getting the box of for 6 months, you can always renew if things are going well and if that account does not you can always let it expire. I live in the sticks so to speak and the box (small) costs me $42 for 6 months and the ups store has a deal of pay for 4 up front get 2 free which comes to $80 for 6 months.

3) I receive payments thru paypal, google checkout, neteller, bidpay, paysimple and I have a merchant account. I also take checks and money order.

4) Ah the customer - I do not use the same name on any of my accounts. As far as how it appears on their statement, it appears how you want it or set it up in paypal. As for the merchant account it is used only in the adult area of ebay as you can not use a paypal account in the mature category.

If you find that you have the same buyer on 2 different accounts you treat it that way. The payments arrive and you ship 2 packages. I use stamps.com which allows me to change the return address. So I can have it say whatever I want. The key with the customer is not to screw them, ship them what they won and they will be happy. I have found that most buyers if not all do not pay much attention to personal names. They just want what they paid for.

Thanks Jamesy

Yes, An account a day. Think of it as a morning routine. That is why I use index cards as if I did not I would forget alot of stuff. This also allows you when you are ready to use that account to pull out a card and know everything about the account before you start. The simon cards and others usually have a 2 year expiration date on them so there is no rush to go and use it.

Note: I do admit that it might seem like alot but it really isn't. You just have to take your time and be organized. I also admit you have to put up some money to start but just like any business there are up front costs. This might not work for everyone but It works for me as I do not want to go back and work for corporate america. If you are serious about making money on ebay you need to be serious about the way you run your "business"
Once you get into a routine you will find that eventually it becomes natural.

well I myself already run an excel spreadsheet with all the account details on it that I have active, so I'm on the same page as you are, but obviously no where near as organised :)

I have given it some thought since I read your post earlier and am already thinking about xmas and the benefits of getting my ass in gear now. I already have done a few of the things you've suggested but on nowhere near as regimented a scale.

your point about spreading the listings over a bunch of accounts is a very good one. I have 7-8 at the moment and find that works so that a couple of vero's on the trot dont bring my whole business down. if I lose an account, so what move on, re-build. before I was an 'all eggs in one basket' type of dreamer

I had some fun tonight coming up with a pool of stupid email address names that I can register with AOL >>>>> tipsy_mcswagger_uk anyone?

Feeebay: great work! A couple of questions as it relates to aol. First, what's the strategy around signing on as a guest? Second, after downloading the aol 9.0 software, it still asks me for a user name and password when trying to sign on as a guest from the dropdown box. Am I doing something incorrect here? Finally, how random is the IP address that is assigned when signing using this method. Reason being, I tested it by logging on and off over a 4 hour period and kept getting the same IP address.

Wow, Feebay, that is comprehensive and thorough. I will adapt that process for backup…don’t know if I really need 31, but better safe than sorry :)

Quick question...so you are selling on different paypal accounts with the same names that match up with the ebay accounts? Or using one paypal account?

Hi Whome,

First go to AOL.com and find the link on the right hand side that say "sign up for free AOL email". Sign up for an account.
Then go thru the 9.0 software as a guest. You do not need to sign up for the 9.0 service to us it. The reason for going thru AOL is that when you sign in AOL it assigns an IP address which is not your computers IP address. You have to use AOLs broswer to get to ebay. As far as the random IP you need to end your session with AOL and then resign in to get a new IP. Generally I have found that the IP is thru the their servers within you local area.

Hi Temps,

Yes, Each Ebay account has its own paypal account with the identical information.

Here is another piece of info I will share. I travel to vegas twice a year for conventions. When I am in Vegas I will make some accounts with vegas information on them. I will also post auctions while in vegas to those accounts with Paypal as the only option for payment. I do not log into the account while I am back in NJ but will monitor them and when payment comes you just ship. Now adays it seems dropshipping is the rage and buyers really do not care where it comes from as long as they get it.

my question is in having several paypal accts. w/different details how do you ever get the money out of them? That's been the limiting factor for me thus far and its keeping me from offering paypal which is killing sales.

Hi Samueladams,

Go and get a savings account at your local bank or go online as most banks now offer you to get an account online. Use this account to tie into the paypal account so that you can withdrawal your funds to them. This also allows you to go to the bank to get the money out (ATM) and put it in your main account so that paypal can not reach in and take it. Also get the paypal debit card so that you can withdrawal the money at an atm or use it to purchase items or pay bills.

Now if you are saying "the information on paypal is not valid" how can I get a debit card or add a bank account. You can add the bank account because it is verified by 2 snall deposits into them by paypal.

How can I open up a paypal account with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name. Doesn't the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name have to match the actual name on the bank account?

hey feebay, do you use turbo lister?

if you do how do you work out which IP address you're uploading through?

I would imagine that turbo lister connects via your ISP rather that AOL browser. so even if you have set up the new accounts on seperate IP addresses you will still be linked in through your turbo lister

Does anybody know how turbo lister works in respect to IP addresses being logged?

I opened up a new account using aspkins original info... it worked great and I'm still up and running after almost a week, knock on wood! I was actually looking forward to switching my bank account number around to see if it worked, but after putting the card number in that was it! Ebay never even asked for the bank info! I think it's more of a random check than anything.

Needsomehelp - As of right now they do not match the names on the accounts. They deposit money into the account and you have to verify those amounts. They figure if you know the amounts you have access to the account. - Verified.

Hi Jamesy - I do not use turbo lister. I basically have all my templates ready to go and just cut and paste the html. I also use Ebays prefilled information to list things - this way you know they wont kill the auction as the information provided is theirs LOL.

Hey thanks fo all the great information. I am not familiar with ebay prefilled info. What is that? It sound great. Thanks.

The prefilled information is in certain categories - DVDs, Books etc. Items that have a UPC code on them. Ebay will aski you for the UPC code and then everything relating to the DVD lets say is filled in as well as a summary and a stock photo. This is another way that you do not have to host images or really think of things for the HTML.

The items that I sell with the prefilled information most people are searching for and as long as the price is good then it will sell.

OK, Here is some more info....
In case anyone needs a telephonenumber for ebay you can get a local number free thru AOL. They are offering a free local number thru the AIM Phoneline. It is really great acutally - For free you can receive calls thru your computer and it also acts as a voicemail. If someone leaves you a voicemail it is sent to you by email so that you can listen to it. If you want to make call I think it is $15 a month.

To add to feebay's leads, there are two free online voicemail services:

evoice free and k7.net (no phone in or out for either tho)

and for free US out calling Internetcalls - The Free Internet Calls Company which you can make about 10-15 minutes worth of free calls until it blocks you...I just delete it from my computer and re-install with a different user name to do it again.

I dont get why everyone wants a number for Ebay? What do you want it for?

When you sign up you simply put in a number simular to yours but change the last couple of digits.

You only need a number for Paypal to get verified when you have to key in the number they send you

Here I go...
 

Ok..

I was recently suspended from eBay and you have no idea how much this has affected me. I just found out the suspension is indefinite. In other words... big question mark.

Ok.. These are the steps I am taking.

1. Created gmail accounts blocking images.
2. Changing my computer name, registry, and clearing all cookies from all my browsers.
3. Installed AOL and logging in to ebay and creating ONE account.
4. As a name I will use a company name with an alteration of my real name as a point of contact. Ex. Johnathan instead of John and add a I or Jr. Also the company name eBay has never seen before.
5. I will register using a debit card linked to a new address eBay has never seen. This new debit card is linked to a business account with an address eBay does not know.
6. I will then proceed to Paypal and create the account using the same business information and altered name. I will add an account that I just opened at my local bank. I will verify it with the debit card I used on eBay. With an address eBay does not know.
7. I will browse a few days and buy a perfume and another decently priced item. I will start selling after a week offering tangible products like tires or car parts.
8. I dont plan on getting verified on PayPal immediatley. I plan on waiting a few more days until I buy a product and need Paypal to buy it. I want to create the impression I am easingggggg into the community.


Does anyone see a step I am missing ? I can not afford to get suspended again. This is just horrible. I hate eBay and I plan on diversifying out of it.

How do you get checks and money orders into your bank accounts when they're sent to ⊗⊗⊗⊗ names and not your real name?

dealah33,

Your own the right track. But remeber even though you created a new paypal account they will freeze/limit it as soon as you get money flowing in so if you are using bogus information find out some way to get past it. They will ask for SS# , bills, etc....

Don't worry about checks or money orders and your name. Customers will usually email you that that what to pay by mail and then will ask where to send it to. But just reply by not ebay email but by your own. or ask them for there email so you can send address info.

Jonas, I sent you a PM.

To expand on some things that I have posted.
As far as Checks and Money orders with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ names...
1) You just sign the back with the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name and then endorse the back with yours for deposit.
2) When using ⊗⊗⊗⊗ names have a variation of your name which you can explain as the person misspelled your name.
3) Keep a conversation going with the tellers at the bank, most are busy and do not notice certain things.

As far as Paypal - I have to say in all my years using them they have not once asked me to verify myself. Even on Ebay accounts where all I take is Paypal.. I have received and withdrawn amounts greater than $3000 in a month without question. Maybe I am a lucky one but it is kind of hard to imagine that is it. I will investigate this more and give an update to what it might be.

A thing to also remember: Ebay has brain washed buyers into thinking that paypal is the best way to pay. Therefore most of the time you wont even get a check or money order. If the person does mail a payment it is most likely a money order as they do not want to wait for the check to clear. I have receive numerous money orders where the buyer has left the pay to blank... :)

Yes, I Agree With " Do Not Email Ebay About Anything" . I Did Email Them Asking For The Removal Of The Listing Limit And The Next Day ..pammm...i Am Gone ..lol

And don't report people from your main account or a linked account as ebay will try to bust you for something, too.

Feebay Balling,
I Just Wanted To Say Thank You!!!!!!!! You Have Been A Great Help To All Of Us Suspendee's Lol. I Was A Powerseller On Ebay For Over 3 Years And Just Got Suspended Over An Account Another Person In My Household Had Not Used For Over A Year(non Seller Performance)my Feedback Rating Was 1200 And 98%. I Just Don't Understand How They Can Justify Closing My Account For Nothing I Had Done Wrong, But I Guess That Is Water Under The Bridge. Your Guide Has Made Me Feel Alot Better About My Chances Of Regaining My Business. I Cannot Thank You Enough And I Am Sure That Everyone Here Feels The Same! Thanks To You To Aspkin For All Of Your Help!!!!!!!!!
I Am Going To Get Started Within The Next Few Days So I Will Let You Know How It Goes!
Thanks Again :)
Kim

Annoying them with a question is a violation of the TOS.

thank you for your remarks, i tried 10 times to log in to AOL and get the IP everytime is different bu t it's far away from the local area.

thank you.

This might sould like a stupid question but I have aol as my internet provider. Could I open internet explorer and access aol that way? Would that change my IP?

Sorry to burst the bubble but DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BELIEVE THAT AOL MASKS YOUR IP WITH E-BAY WHILE USING CABLE MODEMS, IF YOU GO TO A IP CHECKING WEBSITE, YOU WILL GET A DIFFERENT IP THAN YOUR REAL IP WHEN USING AOL (duly noted) BUT EBAY SOMEHOW KNOWS YOUR REAL IP. I CANT BELIEVE MY EYES, BUT TRUST ME ON THIS.

OK, let's say I can;t be just 'trusted', well here's how I found out, I changed my ebay password, when you do that you recieve a courtedy notification. In that notification, ebay includes the ISP host (aol) and your IP address THE REAL ONE NOT THE AOL ONE.

Options??

OK, Some clarification on AOL.

When you sign onto AOL you are connecting thru their servers (usually in VA for east coast people) and then you use AOLS built in browser. I would not recommend opening up another broswer. As far as Ebay and your IP, Ebay seems the AOL IP and that is why when you try an register a new account say in NJ, they ask you to add a credit card to verify yourself. Another note, When I changed an email address on one of my accounts, Ebay sent me a message that said you email account has been changed, it was changed from ip address xxxxxxx and ISP Host xxxxx
Both related back to AOL.
NOW - Please understand that if you send an email to EBAY, your internet path is recorded and this might have your original IP address.

LikeThemApples - I would recheck the address in that email you received or did you change your address thru a browser (IE or Firefox) and NOT thru the built in AOL Browser. Another thing to remember AOL Privacy policy, they do not share info. So if you go thru their server, unless law enforcement wants to know they are not giving up crap.

OK Folks,

Here is another piece of info for those that can use it.
Back ground info: I have 2 brothers, 1 lives in TX and the other in FL. At each one of their homes I have a computer setup that is always on and connected to the internet. From my home in NJ, I login to those computers remotely and also do some Ebay stuff. If you have family that does not mind a computer sitting around then I suggest this idea, especially if they do not Ebay at all.

FeeBay,

I am 1000% positive about this. Please believe me. You made me secong-guess myslef, so I created yet another account (why not :p) by the book, using the AOL browser. No other browsers open. And their confirmation had the real IP not AOLs.

I'm starting to believe that I share that IP with a lot of people in my area, because its a WAN IP, and even using AOL, ebay gets that WAN IP. So on the bright side, I don't think I'm at risk and IP is one less thing to think about, but we'll see. I'll keep you posted.

Hi.. to all you gurus, i have a question..

I have been a eBay powerseller for almost 4 years, FB in range of 15,000+, thats right, 15,000+ and rating 98.8 before ABUSING EBAY BS suspension, "with no chance of parole" :-) i was told after contacting the gold powerseller support. No reason given. just more BS and run around.

I almost gave up on eBay until i found your forum.... there is hope yet!.. okok.. enough venting...

Here are my 2 questions:

1) I started a new eBay account, lets call it account X, using proxy (to hide ip), and its been up for 24 hours. I have an old paypal account (lets call it account Y) that was foolishly linked to one of my buying only eBay accounts (which was, of course, also "Abusing eBay" and suspended, I suspect for no other than being linked to my other suspended selling account). This paypal account Y was opened using my real information, with real bank account and cc card info. I have since logged into the Paypal account Y to remove the LINKED eBay account, which was the old suspended eBay buying account

I added the new AOL email address which I used to start the new eBay account X, to my old paypal account, Y, and confirmed. I did not make this the primary email address on the paypal account Y/

I want to purchase items on eBay with the new eBay account X, can I still make payment using the old Paypal account Y, using eBay checkout? is it safe? what should i be looking out for? i mean, is there something like a hidden account number which is assigned to the paypal account, so that even I make the payment via the new email address added to the old paypal account Y, eBay is still able to see that its the paypal account Y, that is linked to an suspended ebay account? I was not able to log into eBay using the old suspended buying account to UNLINK the paypal account, due to the suspension...

2) is it safe to open emails eBay sends? i know they can figure out my IP by displaying the pictures in the emails...

what about using webmail to see these emails like using AOL's webmail? is that safe using IE or Firefox? or should that be also limited to using AOLS's browser? what is the safe procedure on how to handle eBays emails?

3) when i tried change an pw to the new eBay account, i received an confirmation ebay which had the IP, and an IP Host... like below (numbers changed for privacy):

The Password Change request was made from:
IP address: 54.85.345.433
ISP host: 10.10.43.228

What is the ISP Host and should that be an area of concern?

Thanks for any input.. keep up the great work! much to be learned here!

ok.. thanks for the input..

can anyone address questions 1 and 2? :confused:

thanks