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yaBeh8ater 12-31-2015 02:57 PM

just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
lost 10 out of 16 accounts. no idea why. csome accounts seem to be safe. no mc999 or any mention of any violation.

just a message that i have been suspended.

now if i had linked the accounts somehow wouldn't they all go down?

yankee 12-31-2015 02:59 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
IP method?

All selling the same item?

All have the same ship from zip code?

Loose them all within an hour or did you loose one and then later loose the rest?

yaBeh8ater 01-01-2016 04:06 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
i switch publivc ips but i do get old ips about 20% of the time.

most accounts had different items. i only listed the same items on 2-3 different accounts because they sell slow and i have 4 of em.

yeah same ship from zip but i always use a different zip when signing up.

i lost them all withing a 5 minute time frame.

been busy all day but it seems i lost 90% of my buying accounts as well. thats close to a hundred accounts.

MM78 01-01-2016 04:17 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Wow.....you got hit big time. There has to be a smoking gun that got you linked or something. Were you using home Internet, Mifi/Dongle, VPN/VPS?

richie2065 01-01-2016 04:27 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
well technically they are all linked hence the mass cull of accounts.. you need to think and explain what you have done here.. have you used same photo's /sharing of metadata? or not checked the IP address between accounts?
If this is all within the last day or so your other accounts could some be dust too

empirestate 01-01-2016 08:40 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
This is linked by cookies or similarities on your listings.

phaz0rz 01-01-2016 08:50 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater (Post 732920)
i switch publivc ips but i do get old ips about 20% of the time.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned this. This is MOST LIKELY the reason your accounts were suspended. Public VPN IP's are overused and most have already been burned on eBay.

Since the accounts were all lost within 5 minutes of each other, I'd say it was definitely an automated suspension caused by recycling IP's.

yankee 01-01-2016 09:02 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Solid link.

What is your cashout method?

But what makes the existing accounts unique?

Have you not logged into them for a while?

User220 01-01-2016 01:04 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Do you just change IP address on your router or switch routers ?

manoverde 01-01-2016 01:18 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Looks like its a IP address problem. if you say that you get 20% old ips,
this means you may have got one ip from a bad pool

yaBeh8ater 01-01-2016 03:11 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 732985)
Solid link.

What is your cashout method?

But what makes the existing accounts unique?

Have you not logged into them for a while?



my cashout method isnt part of the topic. but, i have seperate accounts that are withdraw only and i gift the money to them. so far i have 4 that have lasted about 6 months.


dont know what makes the existing accounts unique. maybe ebay overlooked them.

i log into all accounts at least once a month.

yankee 01-01-2016 03:22 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater (Post 733100)
my cashout method isnt part of the topic. but, i have seperate accounts that are withdraw only and i gift the money to them. so far i have 4 that have lasted about 6 months.


dont know what makes the existing accounts unique. maybe ebay overlooked them.

i log into all accounts at least once a month.

Cashout method is your link. Gifting payments to certain accounts will kill ALL accounts associated.

My guess is that remaining accounts have not had a financial link to these accounts or just a one time link.

username1 01-01-2016 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by User220 (Post 733043)
Do you just change IP address on your router or switch routers ?


Why does this matter as long as the Ips and cookies are different?

BigCJ 01-01-2016 03:47 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by username1 (Post 733108)
Why does this matter as long as the Ips and cookies are different?

A recently banned/used IP that has been associated with tainted activities will cause any account to be linked on that IP.

username1 01-01-2016 04:01 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Ah yeah, I knew that but wondered what'd be difference between a router swap?

MM78 01-01-2016 04:39 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Is it or is the router swap just time consuming?

BiN4RY 01-01-2016 05:22 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by username1 (Post 733108)
Why does this matter as long as the Ips and cookies are different?

It doesn't.
Assuming we're talking about a router connected to a standard DSL/Cable model for internet, changing your router's WAN MAC address should give you a new IP from the modem. Swapping a router is just a long and more expensive way to change the MAC address which the modem will see.

DevSpent 01-01-2016 05:37 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
nobody knows EXACTLY why, but whenever someone gifts money to themselves, this happens.

don't send money to yourself. ever.

GreenBean 01-01-2016 05:59 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DevSpent (Post 733144)
nobody knows EXACTLY why, but whenever someone gifts money to themselves, this happens.

don't send money to yourself. ever.

Nobody knows why?

Of course we do.

links exist between the accounts which are enough to trip a reaction.


If you were to see certain patterns within a range of accounts, you could deduce they belong to one party.
ebay/paypal work the same way.

:deadhorse:

fuzzylogik 01-02-2016 09:31 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater (Post 733100)
my cashout method isnt part of the topic. but, i have seperate accounts that are withdraw only and i gift the money to them. so far i have 4 that have lasted about 6 months.


dont know what makes the existing accounts unique. maybe ebay overlooked them.

i log into all accounts at least once a month.

DO NOT CASH OUT THE MONEY AS A GIFT. PayPal will notice constant Gift payments being sent to the same account over and over and suspend you.

There is a better way that i won't put out in public but its quite simple.

manoverde 01-02-2016 11:36 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mission156 (Post 733360)
DO NOT CASH OUT THE MONEY AS A GIFT. PayPal will notice constant Gift payments being sent to the same account over and over and suspend you.

There is a better way that i won't put out in public but its quite simple.

Please share with us more methods to avoid this problem

MM78 01-02-2016 11:52 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manoverde (Post 733412)
Please share with us more methods to avoid this problem

It's called "Using a Bank", and just so you know....all these top secret methods people say they have, usually not any better than the previous one used.

brandnewboss 01-02-2016 12:27 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater (Post 732920)

been busy all day but it seems i lost 90% of my buying accounts as well. thats close to a hundred accounts.

Wow, you must of been doing something messed up big time for that to happen, like using same ip, same address, I've made 100 buyer accounts before so i know it's pretty tough for that to happen unless your using same ip/repeat ip's or same/similar account sign up info.

phaz0rz 01-02-2016 12:33 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
He said on the first page that he was recycling IP's from a public VPN. Most likely the reason for the link.

You guys must do a ton of buying to need 100 buyer accounts...

yankee 01-02-2016 12:39 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 733424)
He said on the first page that he was recycling IP's from a public VPN. Most likely the reason for the link.

You guys must do a ton of buying to need 100 buyer accounts...

I do not see where he said VPN at all. Just public IPs so any mobile device could be that.

He did link all his accounts financially by gifting funds and withdrawing from just a few accounts. That is death to accounts.

brandnewboss 01-02-2016 12:46 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 733424)
You guys must do a ton of buying to need 100 buyer accounts...

Sleeper accounts left to age would be a better term, only really need 1 account for buying.

jakobrockz 01-03-2016 12:37 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
There's no point in aging buyer accounts because eBay only cares until the moment you turn into a seller account...

brandnewboss 01-03-2016 12:50 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakobrockz (Post 733564)
There's no point in aging buyer accounts because eBay only cares until the moment you turn into a seller account...

Not true at all, been making accounts for years, older is always better,, just like fine wine...

Kiroshi 01-03-2016 02:46 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Use bank accounts. Always.

phaz0rz 01-03-2016 07:56 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 733425)
I do not see where he said VPN at all. Just public IPs so any mobile device could be that.

He did link all his accounts financially by gifting funds and withdrawing from just a few accounts. That is death to accounts.

You right yankee, my bad. I sometimes forget Public IP does NOT mean public VPN, haha.

Quote:

Not true at all, been making accounts for years, older is always better,, just like fine wine...
How though? I've never had a buyer account get in any trouble, and I only have one. Are you in the business of scamming sellers?

GreenBean 01-03-2016 08:49 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 733629)


How though? I've never had a buyer account get in any trouble, and I only have one. Are you in the business of scamming sellers?

How about learning to QUOTE correctly.

Include the name of the posted being quoted not your inaccurate code.

Your last post suggests openly you think yankee is not above board.

As I have known yankee for a long time, I take exception to your carelessness.


:mad:

rsot 01-03-2016 09:00 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
OP, your operations have multiple issues - public IPs, gift cashout methods, similar listings of same items for sale....all can lead to linking. Learn proper stealth

MM78 01-03-2016 11:32 AM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
You can have a 5yr old buying account but it means nothing once it gets converted to a sellers account, 21 day holds apply, and so do category limits.

brandnewboss 01-03-2016 12:58 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 733629)
How though? I've never had a buyer account get in any trouble, and I only have one. Are you in the business of scamming sellers?

They're called back up's, whats so hard to understand about that?

brandnewboss 01-03-2016 01:02 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 733683)
You can have a 5yr old buying account but it means nothing once it gets converted to a sellers account, 21 day holds apply, and so do category limits.

Older accounts are stronger in other ways besides the obvious.

phaz0rz 01-03-2016 04:12 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brandnewboss (Post 733701)
They're called back up's, whats so hard to understand about that?

I was having trouble understanding why you need backups since I've never had any problems with a buying account. But don't worry about it, it's no big deal.

@GB I clearly wasn't accusing yankee of anything since I was responding to what someone else said. My coding isn't shoddy, I just suck at bbcode or whatever this is. So you are aware, I used the "QUOTE" button in the WYSIWYG editor, which automatically wrapped quote tags around the text I selected. You can call it careless, but I just clicked a button. :typing:

http://s28.postimg.org/rci9a0zil/image.png

There was no option to add a name. Sorry. :noidea:

brandnewboss 01-03-2016 04:15 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 733751)
I was having trouble understanding why you need backups since I've never had any problems with a buying account. But don't worry about it, it's no big deal.

Me neither, these aren't for buying, they're future seller accounts.

phaz0rz 01-03-2016 04:20 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
That contradicts everything you've said up to this point, lol. Makes perfect sense now.

brandnewboss 01-03-2016 04:32 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
A buyer account, aka sleeper, is what most people refer to an account that hasn't been turned into a seller yet, doesn't mean their sole purpose is to buy with it lol.

GreenBean 01-03-2016 05:44 PM

Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 733751)
I was having trouble understanding why you need backups since I've never had any problems with a buying account. But don't worry about it, it's no big deal.

@GB I clearly wasn't accusing yankee of anything since I was responding to what someone else said. My coding isn't shoddy, I just suck at bbcode or whatever this is. So you are aware, I used the "QUOTE" button in the WYSIWYG editor, which automatically wrapped quote tags around the text I selected. You can call it careless, but I just clicked a button. :typing:

http://s28.postimg.org/rci9a0zil/image.png

There was no option to add a name. Sorry. :noidea:

When you use the Quote here, the name needs to be on the post, for obvious reasons. Been the method since the start of the forum.

Copy and paste should work for next time. Will take extra moments but should suit everyone reading what you post
:typing:


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