| | | yaBeh8ater | 12-31-2015 02:57 PM | just lost 10 accounts and no idea why lost 10 out of 16 accounts. no idea why. csome accounts seem to be safe. no mc999 or any mention of any violation.
just a message that i have been suspended.
now if i had linked the accounts somehow wouldn't they all go down? |
| yankee | 12-31-2015 02:59 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why IP method?
All selling the same item?
All have the same ship from zip code?
Loose them all within an hour or did you loose one and then later loose the rest? |
| yaBeh8ater | 01-01-2016 04:06 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why i switch publivc ips but i do get old ips about 20% of the time.
most accounts had different items. i only listed the same items on 2-3 different accounts because they sell slow and i have 4 of em.
yeah same ship from zip but i always use a different zip when signing up.
i lost them all withing a 5 minute time frame.
been busy all day but it seems i lost 90% of my buying accounts as well. thats close to a hundred accounts. |
Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Wow.....you got hit big time. There has to be a smoking gun that got you linked or something. Were you using home Internet, Mifi/Dongle, VPN/VPS? |
| richie2065 | 01-01-2016 04:27 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why well technically they are all linked hence the mass cull of accounts.. you need to think and explain what you have done here.. have you used same photo's /sharing of metadata? or not checked the IP address between accounts?
If this is all within the last day or so your other accounts could some be dust too |
| empirestate | 01-01-2016 08:40 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why This is linked by cookies or similarities on your listings. |
| phaz0rz | 01-01-2016 08:50 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater
(Post 732920)
i switch publivc ips but i do get old ips about 20% of the time. | Can't believe nobody has mentioned this. This is MOST LIKELY the reason your accounts were suspended. Public VPN IP's are overused and most have already been burned on eBay.
Since the accounts were all lost within 5 minutes of each other, I'd say it was definitely an automated suspension caused by recycling IP's. |
| yankee | 01-01-2016 09:02 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Solid link.
What is your cashout method?
But what makes the existing accounts unique?
Have you not logged into them for a while? |
| User220 | 01-01-2016 01:04 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Do you just change IP address on your router or switch routers ? |
| manoverde | 01-01-2016 01:18 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Looks like its a IP address problem. if you say that you get 20% old ips,
this means you may have got one ip from a bad pool |
| yaBeh8ater | 01-01-2016 03:11 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 732985)
Solid link.
What is your cashout method?
But what makes the existing accounts unique?
Have you not logged into them for a while? |
my cashout method isnt part of the topic. but, i have seperate accounts that are withdraw only and i gift the money to them. so far i have 4 that have lasted about 6 months.
dont know what makes the existing accounts unique. maybe ebay overlooked them.
i log into all accounts at least once a month. |
| yankee | 01-01-2016 03:22 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater
(Post 733100)
my cashout method isnt part of the topic. but, i have seperate accounts that are withdraw only and i gift the money to them. so far i have 4 that have lasted about 6 months.
dont know what makes the existing accounts unique. maybe ebay overlooked them.
i log into all accounts at least once a month. | Cashout method is your link. Gifting payments to certain accounts will kill ALL accounts associated.
My guess is that remaining accounts have not had a financial link to these accounts or just a one time link. |
| username1 | 01-01-2016 03:24 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by User220
(Post 733043)
Do you just change IP address on your router or switch routers ? |
Why does this matter as long as the Ips and cookies are different? |
| BigCJ | 01-01-2016 03:47 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by username1
(Post 733108)
Why does this matter as long as the Ips and cookies are different? | A recently banned/used IP that has been associated with tainted activities will cause any account to be linked on that IP. |
| username1 | 01-01-2016 04:01 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Ah yeah, I knew that but wondered what'd be difference between a router swap? |
Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Is it or is the router swap just time consuming? |
| BiN4RY | 01-01-2016 05:22 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by username1
(Post 733108)
Why does this matter as long as the Ips and cookies are different? | It doesn't.
Assuming we're talking about a router connected to a standard DSL/Cable model for internet, changing your router's WAN MAC address should give you a new IP from the modem. Swapping a router is just a long and more expensive way to change the MAC address which the modem will see. |
| DevSpent | 01-01-2016 05:37 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why nobody knows EXACTLY why, but whenever someone gifts money to themselves, this happens.
don't send money to yourself. ever. |
| GreenBean | 01-01-2016 05:59 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by DevSpent
(Post 733144)
nobody knows EXACTLY why, but whenever someone gifts money to themselves, this happens.
don't send money to yourself. ever. | Nobody knows why?
Of course we do.
links exist between the accounts which are enough to trip a reaction.
If you were to see certain patterns within a range of accounts, you could deduce they belong to one party.
ebay/paypal work the same way.
:deadhorse: |
| fuzzylogik | 01-02-2016 09:31 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater
(Post 733100)
my cashout method isnt part of the topic. but, i have seperate accounts that are withdraw only and i gift the money to them. so far i have 4 that have lasted about 6 months.
dont know what makes the existing accounts unique. maybe ebay overlooked them.
i log into all accounts at least once a month. | DO NOT CASH OUT THE MONEY AS A GIFT. PayPal will notice constant Gift payments being sent to the same account over and over and suspend you.
There is a better way that i won't put out in public but its quite simple. |
| manoverde | 01-02-2016 11:36 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by mission156
(Post 733360)
DO NOT CASH OUT THE MONEY AS A GIFT. PayPal will notice constant Gift payments being sent to the same account over and over and suspend you.
There is a better way that i won't put out in public but its quite simple. | Please share with us more methods to avoid this problem |
Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by manoverde
(Post 733412)
Please share with us more methods to avoid this problem | It's called "Using a Bank", and just so you know....all these top secret methods people say they have, usually not any better than the previous one used. |
| brandnewboss | 01-02-2016 12:27 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater
(Post 732920)
been busy all day but it seems i lost 90% of my buying accounts as well. thats close to a hundred accounts. | Wow, you must of been doing something messed up big time for that to happen, like using same ip, same address, I've made 100 buyer accounts before so i know it's pretty tough for that to happen unless your using same ip/repeat ip's or same/similar account sign up info. |
| phaz0rz | 01-02-2016 12:33 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why He said on the first page that he was recycling IP's from a public VPN. Most likely the reason for the link.
You guys must do a ton of buying to need 100 buyer accounts... |
| yankee | 01-02-2016 12:39 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 733424)
He said on the first page that he was recycling IP's from a public VPN. Most likely the reason for the link.
You guys must do a ton of buying to need 100 buyer accounts... | I do not see where he said VPN at all. Just public IPs so any mobile device could be that.
He did link all his accounts financially by gifting funds and withdrawing from just a few accounts. That is death to accounts. |
| brandnewboss | 01-02-2016 12:46 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 733424)
You guys must do a ton of buying to need 100 buyer accounts... | Sleeper accounts left to age would be a better term, only really need 1 account for buying. |
| jakobrockz | 01-03-2016 12:37 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why There's no point in aging buyer accounts because eBay only cares until the moment you turn into a seller account... |
| brandnewboss | 01-03-2016 12:50 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by jakobrockz
(Post 733564)
There's no point in aging buyer accounts because eBay only cares until the moment you turn into a seller account... | Not true at all, been making accounts for years, older is always better,, just like fine wine... |
| Kiroshi | 01-03-2016 02:46 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Use bank accounts. Always. |
| phaz0rz | 01-03-2016 07:56 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 733425)
I do not see where he said VPN at all. Just public IPs so any mobile device could be that.
He did link all his accounts financially by gifting funds and withdrawing from just a few accounts. That is death to accounts. | You right yankee, my bad. I sometimes forget Public IP does NOT mean public VPN, haha. Quote:
Not true at all, been making accounts for years, older is always better,, just like fine wine...
| How though? I've never had a buyer account get in any trouble, and I only have one. Are you in the business of scamming sellers? |
| GreenBean | 01-03-2016 08:49 AM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 733629)
How though? I've never had a buyer account get in any trouble, and I only have one. Are you in the business of scamming sellers? | How about learning to QUOTE correctly.
Include the name of the posted being quoted not your inaccurate code.
Your last post suggests openly you think yankee is not above board.
As I have known yankee for a long time, I take exception to your carelessness.
:mad: |
Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why OP, your operations have multiple issues - public IPs, gift cashout methods, similar listings of same items for sale....all can lead to linking. Learn proper stealth |
Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why You can have a 5yr old buying account but it means nothing once it gets converted to a sellers account, 21 day holds apply, and so do category limits. |
| brandnewboss | 01-03-2016 12:58 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 733629)
How though? I've never had a buyer account get in any trouble, and I only have one. Are you in the business of scamming sellers? | They're called back up's, whats so hard to understand about that? |
| brandnewboss | 01-03-2016 01:02 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 733683)
You can have a 5yr old buying account but it means nothing once it gets converted to a sellers account, 21 day holds apply, and so do category limits. | Older accounts are stronger in other ways besides the obvious. |
| phaz0rz | 01-03-2016 04:12 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by brandnewboss
(Post 733701)
They're called back up's, whats so hard to understand about that? | I was having trouble understanding why you need backups since I've never had any problems with a buying account. But don't worry about it, it's no big deal.
@GB I clearly wasn't accusing yankee of anything since I was responding to what someone else said. My coding isn't shoddy, I just suck at bbcode or whatever this is. So you are aware, I used the "QUOTE" button in the WYSIWYG editor, which automatically wrapped quote tags around the text I selected. You can call it careless, but I just clicked a button. :typing: http://s28.postimg.org/rci9a0zil/image.png
There was no option to add a name. Sorry. :noidea: |
| brandnewboss | 01-03-2016 04:15 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 733751)
I was having trouble understanding why you need backups since I've never had any problems with a buying account. But don't worry about it, it's no big deal. | Me neither, these aren't for buying, they're future seller accounts. |
| phaz0rz | 01-03-2016 04:20 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why That contradicts everything you've said up to this point, lol. Makes perfect sense now. |
| brandnewboss | 01-03-2016 04:32 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why A buyer account, aka sleeper, is what most people refer to an account that hasn't been turned into a seller yet, doesn't mean their sole purpose is to buy with it lol. |
| GreenBean | 01-03-2016 05:44 PM | Re: just lost 10 accounts and no idea why Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 733751)
I was having trouble understanding why you need backups since I've never had any problems with a buying account. But don't worry about it, it's no big deal.
@GB I clearly wasn't accusing yankee of anything since I was responding to what someone else said. My coding isn't shoddy, I just suck at bbcode or whatever this is. So you are aware, I used the "QUOTE" button in the WYSIWYG editor, which automatically wrapped quote tags around the text I selected. You can call it careless, but I just clicked a button. :typing: http://s28.postimg.org/rci9a0zil/image.png
There was no option to add a name. Sorry. :noidea: | When you use the Quote here, the name needs to be on the post, for obvious reasons. Been the method since the start of the forum.
Copy and paste should work for next time. Will take extra moments but should suit everyone reading what you post
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