| | | e2free | 04-28-2016 02:48 PM | new user account on same laptop basically i am using one account on one laptop using dongle, now want to setup another ebay and paypal account will this be ok just to make new user account in that windows (laptop) and use new dongle for that account? or I need new laptop ? |
Re: new user account on same laptop new user is fine. |
| ilcarletto | 04-28-2016 02:51 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop New dongle is not necessary.
You can use both accounts with the same dongle providing that you change the IP every time you log on/off from each account.
Keep trace and try not to cross-use IPs on the accounts. |
| e2free | 04-28-2016 02:54 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop well i am using dongle and notice it only give 3 ip address so it can be quite dangerous what do u think? using ee sim |
Re: new user account on same laptop You need to keep a record of the ip's. You can buy ee sim, but your going to eventually run in to trouble having not kept a record from the start. Especially when you start to scale up into 5 to 10 accounts, UK doesnt have 5 to 10 different mobile operators |
| e2free | 04-28-2016 03:22 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop ok thanks, i thought new sim and dongle give you new unique ip address, is that true? |
| ilcarletto | 04-28-2016 03:30 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 766430)
well i am using dongle and notice it only give 3 ip address so it can be quite dangerous what do u think? using ee sim | You'd better find an ISP with a larger pool of addresses... 3 is really low! |
| e2free | 04-28-2016 03:31 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop batter to go for vpn then? |
Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by ilcarletto
(Post 766448)
You'd better find an ISP with a larger pool of addresses... 3 is really low! | Im going to just quote and repeat this, because when I used a 3 (both 3g and 4g), I finished all their IP's within a few months!! Avoid them unless you want to dedicate the entire dongle to one 'solid' stealth account. |
Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 766449)
batter to go for vpn then? | You seem very new to the game, and reluctant. You should consider VPN for your first account, just so you can get to grips with the concept and not worry about IP (for now anyway) |
Re: new user account on same laptop New user account is fine.
Resetting the dongle will give you new IP |
| GreenBean | 04-29-2016 02:36 AM | Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 766430)
well i am using dongle and notice it only give 3 ip address so it can be quite dangerous what do u think? using ee sim | Consider another dongle with a wider IP range.
:bird: |
| GreenBean | 04-29-2016 02:41 AM | Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 766488)
You seem very new to the game, and reluctant. You should consider VPN for your first account, just so you can get to grips with the concept and not worry about IP (for now anyway) | What??.... what sort of not funny joke is this?
a newbie does not need the added grief of a VPN working. WTfudge are they going to do if they use the same laptop/IP and do not set it up correctly?
A new dongle, a new IP and they start to learn how to do stealth.
When they become proficient, they explore other methods.
:peace: |
| Angel1978 | 04-29-2016 03:50 AM | Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 766579)
What??.... what sort of not funny joke is this?
a newbie does not need the added grief of a VPN working. WTfudge are they going to do if they use the same laptop/IP and do not set it up correctly?
A new dongle, a new IP and they start to learn how to do stealth.
When they become proficient, they explore other methods.
:peace: | As a newbie to stealth this is valuable information. I'm looking for the easiest way possible to get started which is why I decided on a dongle myself. I figured later on I could get multiple sims and an unblocked dongle or have multiple dongles on the go with different providers. But for now, I just need the easy route. VPN is too much of a learning curve with everything else included, something for later maybe, with a dedicated IP perhaps. Simple really is the best way for any newbie like myself who may be a little technical illiterate. |
Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 766579)
What??.... what sort of not funny joke is this?
a newbie does not need the added grief of a VPN working. WTfudge are they going to do if they use the same laptop/IP and do not set it up correctly?
A new dongle, a new IP and they start to learn how to do stealth.
When they become proficient, they explore other methods.
:peace: | In my personal opinion, I find 24vc VPN very easy to operate. What I meant was, as a noobie, keeping track of IPs, changing IPs, learning how to change IPs depending on your setup, then OP might accidentally forget to change IP etc. etc. etc. could accidentally link accounts.
A VPN, you install, login, done. |
| RosieTosie | 04-29-2016 11:25 AM | Re: new user account on same laptop Depends really how computer literate op is, 24vc really are excellent even with complete newbie's like I was when I signed up to one of their vpn's, they had to take over my computer and install the VPN remotely which worked like a dream. But as GB said a complete newbie to stealth and everything might find adding a VPN the straw that broke camels back! |
Re: new user account on same laptop @OP, you seem to be doing well with dongles :) Only reason to have multiple dongles and multiple sims is if you want to operate accounts on different computers at the SAME time. Otherwise, one dongle should be quite sufficient with reset each time you go onto a different account |
Re: new user account on same laptop Bare in mind, some dongles are cross compatible with other network providers. So no need to fork out on the expensive dongles themselves. |
| e2free | 04-29-2016 04:51 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop Guys thanks for your comments I been using AZ account for over a year and never had issue. Few months ago created another account on new laptop and totally separate dongle and sim but both network are same ee now wants to create another account with new dongle and possible with 3 dongles so should be ok i think . I tought ip create with your dongle and sim and if you chnage the dongle it gives us totally different ip? My both dongles are from ee but their ip's are totally different can they match? |
| realdeals | 04-29-2016 05:08 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 766487)
Im going to just quote and repeat this, because when I used a 3 (both 3g and 4g), I finished all their IP's within a few months!! Avoid them unless you want to dedicate the entire dongle to one 'solid' stealth account. | Not only did you misunderstand what ilcarletto said, but you are talking absolute smack too.
For starters ilcarletto was referencing the number 3.....not the mobile network.
SECONDLY.....3 is IMO the best mobile network to use on a dongle.....I am running 30+ accounts off a single '3' dongle with no issues at all. Massive i.p pool.
There is no problem if the i.p repeats, as long as it is repeating on the same account it originated from. |
| GreenBean | 04-29-2016 05:39 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 766632)
In my personal opinion, I find 24vc VPN very easy to operate. What I meant was, as a noobie, keeping track of IPs, changing IPs, learning how to change IPs depending on your setup, then OP might accidentally forget to change IP etc. etc. etc. could accidentally link accounts.
A VPN, you install, login, done. | Tosh.
You are assuming too much.
You are not taking into account what happens to more than one seller after the devastation of a permanent suspension.
Many have become so depressed, upset, they find the concept of "going stealth" overwhelming.
IF they are guided into easier steps to learn, operate and profit from a stealth account, then later the concepts of different methods can be introduced.
I bet no Formula 1 racing drivef jumped into a super high powered car and was brilliant straight away.
Doing stealth when new is the same principle.
:pop2: |
Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 766788)
Tosh.
You are assuming too much.
You are not taking into account what happens to more than one seller after the devastation of a permanent suspension.
Many have become so depressed, upset, they find the concept of "going stealth" overwhelming.
IF they are guided into easier steps to learn, operate and profit from a stealth account, then later the concepts of different methods can be introduced.
I bet no Formula 1 racing drivef jumped into a super high powered car and was brilliant straight away.
Doing stealth when new is the same principle.
:pop2: | I think RosieTosie made a good point here. If your computer literate, the VPN method is second nature. I should of taken that into consideration when giving the OP a response. |
Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by realdeals
(Post 766777)
Not only did you misunderstand what ilcarletto said, but you are talking absolute smack too.
For starters ilcarletto was referencing the number 3.....not the mobile network.
SECONDLY.....3 is IMO the best mobile network to use on a dongle.....I am running 30+ accounts off a single '3' dongle with no issues at all. Massive i.p pool.
There is no problem if the i.p repeats, as long as it is repeating on the same account it originated from. | I read it from 'well i am using dongle and notice it only give 3 ip address so it can be quite dangerous what do u think? using ee sim'
... and I misinterpreted that to think the OP was talking about the networks himself. Hands down my mistake.
As for the 3 network and their IP pool, it could potentially depends on your location. My location had a small pool, as well as a few other forum members I spoke to. Glad your able to run 30+ accounts off of yours. |
| e2free | 04-30-2016 11:48 AM | Re: new user account on same laptop Guys, I thought dongle give you unique ip address, does not depends on mac address of dongle? on router when we chnage mac address it give me different unique ip address maybe dongles doe snot work like this way. I been noting down all the ip address in past 2 days since Play advised and notice after few hour it does give new ip so far i got 10 different ip on one dongle in past 48 hours which always start with 31.xx.xxx.xx and on other dongle which has different ee sim also got 7 ip's in 48 hours which start with 178.xx.xx.xx
now I am confused as dont think these are unique ip's so my question is, will this possible to cross over the ip address on these both dongles? ie let says i got 31.11.22.33 on one dongle today and after few days or month other dongle give me same ip?
to be honest I dont want to keep record of ip's I only maximum using 3 accounts at same time, and normally get ee sim from ebay from £15 with 90 days credit so £5 each month which is ok for me but now I thought after play said as these ip's are limited depends on network so may crossover.
so for same side batter to use ee on one dongle and 3 on other dongle.... |
Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 766968)
Guys, I thought dongle give you unique ip address, does not depends on mac address of dongle? on router when we chnage mac address it give me different unique ip address maybe dongles doe snot work like this way. I been noting down all the ip address in past 2 days since Play advised and notice after few hour it does give new ip so far i got 10 different ip on one dongle in past 48 hours which always start with 31.xx.xxx.xx and on other dongle which has different ee sim also got 7 ip's in 48 hours which start with 178.xx.xx.xx
now I am confused as dont think these are unique ip's so my question is, will this possible to cross over the ip address on these both dongles? ie let says i got 31.11.22.33 on one dongle today and after few days or month other dongle give me same ip?
to be honest I dont want to keep record of ip's I only maximum using 3 accounts at same time, and normally get ee sim from ebay from £15 with 90 days credit so £5 each month which is ok for me but now I thought after play said as these ip's are limited depends on network so may crossover.
so for same side batter to use ee on one dongle and 3 on other dongle.... | Record IPs or get a VPN. Third option is get linked. |
| e2free | 04-30-2016 02:41 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 766979)
Records IPs or get a VPN. Third option is get linked. | even using one dongle on one network and another on different network, will they still linked? |
Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 767012)
even using one dongle on one network and another on different network, will they still linked? | You mean one dongle/network per account?
That would be fine. But there's about 5 network operators in the UK. So when you've used them, whats your plan? |
| e2free | 04-30-2016 03:06 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop Yeh play that's what I mean. 3 accounts are enough for me. 2 already using them from many years never had any issue just one more and that's it!!
Also play I don't think these dongles or even phone data ip's matches. i e I am using my own account on my mobile and pc etc on one network and I am sure many people suspended on this network from ebay so then ip's will be blacklisted so how my account and many thousands of other accounts not get linked.
If ebay start linking like this then who ever using mobile data will be link as I am sure many people using data sim And got banned from ebay. Maybe I am wrong but this can't be true! |
Re: new user account on same laptop Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 767014)
Yeh play that's what I mean. 3 accounts are enough for me. 2 already using them from many years never had any issue just one more and that's it!!
Also play I don't think these dongles or even phone data ip's matches. i e I am using my own account on my mobile and pc etc on one network and I am sure many people suspended on this network from ebay so then ip's will be blacklisted so how my account and many thousands of other accounts not get linked.
If ebay start linking like this then who ever using mobile data will be link as I am sure many people using data sim And got banned from ebay. Maybe I am wrong but this can't be true! | IP doesnt get blacklisted. IP is just one of the many factors used to decide whether you are associated with another account. |
| e2free | 04-30-2016 03:33 PM | Re: new user account on same laptop Got it play thanks for your time and support I am sure other will benefit with you post as well! | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:56 PM. | |
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