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Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1065271)

How many of you all did not get suspended after first listing? Seems like ALL my accounts are getting suspended after first listing. Some of you seem to imply that you are not getting suspended after first listing. Slokor implied that there are threads that have fixed this problem, but I searched, and didn't see any solutions for the first listing suspension problem unless someone willing to post a link.

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1065271)

My setup now is all through firefox portable. For those of you that do not get suspended after first listing, do you use firefox portable? User accounts? Or Virtual machine?

Also, do you use your regular home internet IP address? Or do you use mobile IP address? bought IP address?

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1065271)

Not sure if this is relevant, but with firefox portable, what I do is I install firefox portable the first time, and never use it to access any websites. I update it as usual, but NEVER EVER visit any websites whatsoever. I close the FF portable then make copies of the same folder then use those folders to create ebay accounts, netting me 500/25000 or 1000/25000. Could those folders be linked to the same user?

What do you all think? If the only thing that works is virtual machines, then I'm assuming ebay has started using browser fingerprints?

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1065377)

Public database.
Ebay has its own data base,more comprehensive than the public one.

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1065381)

It is well know as a version of Lexus Nexus. Just standard security data base.

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1065333)

I've been having no problems of late.

Use a mobile tethering IP and FFOX portable

When I make the account i immediately go into advertising preferences and uncheck all that ****. Also with communication preferences.

UK and USA could very well be different. For example DE is tough these days.

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1065428)

How much does that cost? I can't find pricing anywhere

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1065271)

How many of you all did not get suspended after first listing? Seems like ALL my accounts are getting suspended after first listing. Some of you seem to imply that you are not getting suspended after first listing. Slokor implied that there are threads that have fixed this problem, but I searched, and didn't see any solutions for the first listing suspension problem unless someone willing to post a link.

My setup now is all through firefox portable. For those of you that do not get suspended after first listing, do you use firefox portable? User accounts? Or Virtual machine?

Also, do you use your regular home internet IP address? Or do you use mobile IP address? bought IP address?

Not sure if this is relevant, but with firefox portable, what I do is I install firefox portable the first time, and never use it to access any websites. I update it as usual, but NEVER EVER visit any websites whatsoever. I close the FF portable then make copies of the same folder then use those folders to create ebay accounts, netting me 500/25000 or 1000/25000. Could those folders be linked to the same user?

What do you all think? If the only thing that works is virtual machines, then I'm assuming ebay has started using browser fingerprints?

Originally Posted by afincho (Post 1065950)

There are many other ways that eBay detects multiple accounts. Thinking that only IP & Cookies is what linking between fresh accounts in 2020 could be naive. What you can do is use residential proxies. + Virtual machine.

Datacenter proxies are well known to get flagged quickly. because honestly, who use proxies to create accounts? only those who going stealth.

eBay, Amazon,etc have their own database of those IP ranges and flag them quickly.

Mobile Hotspots is the best method nowadays to create new accounts.

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1065323)

Is eBay now fingerprinting?
Let's hear fromt the horses mouth.
Below are excerpts from eBay's updated Privacy Notice and User Cookie Notice:

"Additionally, there are other technologies that function without local storage [cookies] in your end device and instead make use of, inter alia, browser functions. In this context, a 'fingerprint' of your system is created that serves as a unique identifier."

"These technologies may function across all your browsers and in some cases are not fully managed by your browser, but may need to be managed directly from your installed applications or your device. We sometimes use the terms cookies and similar technologies interchangeably."

"In general, these technologies enable us to track your user behaviour and identify you - even across devices"

"we collect data regarding your device (e.g. the operating system and its version) to provide a uniform service on all your devices."




I never use firefox portable because eventually all of these will be updated to the same version. If eBay uses fingerprinting to track us, this will produce an unsafe scenario as most of your browsers will be the same thing and give off the same information. However, if they rely only on cookies, that is at best, just fine. Although I imagine manually inspecting five accounts that use the same browser down to the same version will raise some eyebrows - so under no circumstance will I use a portable browser.

I use Opera and Firefox, but I never repeat versions, and I never let them update. In rare cases, I use Chrome, but it takes a lot of work to fine-tune it to my taste.

I don't use broadband internet, but that's because I find it convenient to use mobile sim IPs instead. Guaranteed someone is going to get vexed If I keep restarting the router.





Virtual machines are a sure upgrade from user accounts. You can vary your browser, fonts, OS and 47 other things that eBay might be looking out for. However, virtual machine users still report eBay related problems here. and this leaves me to ponder in three directions:

1. Could it be these users are only halfway implementing the security VMs have to offer, so they unwittingly fail to look unique to eBay?

2. Could eBay be comparing our information against a 'public database' at some point during account creation or after listing?

3. Javascript code can be written to sniff out VMs indirectly. This would be simple to accomplish even for a single programmer. eBay could implement it if they wanted to.


The sudden barrage of topics all revolving around the same kind of difficulty: Account creation/suspensions make me lean toward the notion that eBay has implemented fingerprinting and also uses public data to verify accounts at some point. Although it would seem some stealth account still slip through.

Originally Posted by willy74 (Post 1065506)

That's odd. Try changing your browser settings to avoid potential fingerprinting and test it again. Use Device Info https://www.deviceinfo.me/ to see what information your browser already makes available. There's a lot of different things that could be used for fingerprinting browsers, but maybe blocking at least the Canvas and AudioContext fingerprinting would be a good start.