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CaptAmerica 01-07-2020 05:45 PM

Esty EIN
 
For anyone currently selling on Etsy, what are you doing once you hit 20k sales? I know EIN is the way to go but do you set up an EIN with your real info or stealth info?

CaptAmerica 01-09-2020 07:34 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Feel free to message me if you'd rather say in private. I just need some advice from someone who has done this already.

Thanks!

EtsySucks 01-13-2020 02:41 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
I have a business account - EIN, but am still trying to figure out how to set up a new Etsy account after being suspended. Nothing seems to be working. I am in the United States.

EtsySucks 01-13-2020 02:41 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
@Captainamerica, hoping you may be able to help - I am unable to set up a new Etsy account.

EtsySucks 01-13-2020 02:42 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
@CaptAmerica - sorry - tupo on the name !! :)

CaptAmerica 01-13-2020 04:42 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Can anyone help with this? I know i'm not the only one using an EIN. A few month back i created the EIN using real info as i knew i would go over 20k sales. Added the EIN number to Etsy but with stealth name/address. All was good until last week and now etsy is stating:

The name and Tax ID provided does not match the IRS records. Please ensure you enter the correct name associated with your Tax ID provided.

When i created the EIN there was a line to add "Trade name/Doing business as", which I did and i tried using this where etsy is asking for a legal name. This isnt working either as i still get the error message.

I could really use some help. I could just add my real info to the EIN page but i'm definitely afraid that's gonna link me?

CaptAmerica 01-14-2020 04:25 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Figured it out. Thanks.

bavm3 01-14-2020 07:33 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
I'm interested in how you had to go about this at the end of the day, you mind shooting me a PM Capt?

I'm getting ready to go down the same road and want to make sure I've got everything lined up correctly.

CaptAmerica 01-15-2020 06:30 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
turns out i'm still having an issue

mysgrl 01-15-2020 09:39 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
I’m stuck trying to figure this out as well.

CaptAmerica 01-16-2020 07:52 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
I know i've heard several people say they make over 20k on etsy. It would be nice to hear from someone whos already done it

yankee 01-16-2020 08:05 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Geese, there is literally thousands of posts about EIN.....use the search function.

EIN is from the IRS. NEVER commit fraud by giving the IRS ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details.

To sum this up, you open your business on the IRS and your state with YOUR info.

It is best to open Etsy and only add the EIN when requested. It can be a real chore to open an EIN account right from the begging when stealthing.

CaptAmerica 01-16-2020 08:54 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1062309)
Geese, there is literally thousands of posts about EIN.....use the search function.

EIN is from the IRS. NEVER commit fraud by giving the IRS ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details.

To sum this up, you open your business on the IRS and your state with YOUR info.

It is best to open Etsy and only add the EIN when requested. It can be a real chore to open an EIN account right from the begging when stealthing.

Of course I searched before asking :) I searched "etsy EIN" and scanned through the posts on 6 pages. I found info in 2 of the threads but neither answered my question.

I'm not trying to fraud the IRS. I created the EIN with my real info so that i can pay taxes on it, however i was not comfortable putting real info on etsy Taxpayer ID page because i didnt want to get linked to my old shut down account.

First i made a single person EIN, then on etsy used the real EIN but put stealth details. This gave me the original etsy error saying tax ID & name didnt match and why i started asking here.

Since asking i have tried several things and nothing is working. I havent found anywhere on the forum if people are putting in 100% real details on etsy tax id page

edit: I'm needing help because etsy is now asking. I've made over 20k and they are trying to communicate with the IRS

agent006140 01-16-2020 09:05 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
so are you going to give them your real infor or just abandon the Etsy shop?

CaptAmerica 01-17-2020 07:42 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1062454)
so are you going to give them your real infor or just abandon the Etsy shop?

Still working on it. I think i'm gonna call the IRS. I've put all the real info from my partnership EIN and it's still failing.

yankee 01-17-2020 10:41 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
You change the name to YOUR REAL BUSINESS NAME AND REAL TAX NUMBER.

The address is irrelevant.

CaptAmerica 01-17-2020 05:31 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1062556)
You change the name to YOUR REAL BUSINESS NAME AND REAL TAX NUMBER.

The address is irrelevant.

Thank you for answering! However this still isn't working for me so im calling the IRS and if that doesn't work i guess i'll have to contact Etsy, ugh :(

CaptAmerica 01-18-2020 03:18 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Tip for anyone adding an EIN to etsy; It typically takes around 4 weeks for that EIN to be able to be verified online. This means if you create an EIN and try to add it to Etsy (or anywhere else) right away, they will try to verify it with the IRS and it will come back as invalid. This information was given to me by an agent when I called the IRS.

You're choices are either to create the EIN well in advance of needing it, or you can also print/fax/email the EIN verification form (Notice: CP 575).

Of course, if you email the form to etsy and have them manually verify it, you risk the chance they could possible ask for additional proof of identity.

Hope this helps anyone in the same situation i was in!

azjohn311 01-20-2020 05:13 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
CaptAmerica, I was kicked off etsy and I really need help to get a stealth account. I bought Etsy reborn but it didn't help with the ein info.
Can you PM me?
John

solefoodbk 01-21-2020 03:17 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1062309)
Geese, there is literally thousands of posts about EIN.....use the search function.

EIN is from the IRS. NEVER commit fraud by giving the IRS ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details.

To sum this up, you open your business on the IRS and your state with YOUR info.

It is best to open Etsy and only add the EIN when requested. It can be a real chore to open an EIN account right from the begging when stealthing.

Just to piggy back off this, there is no such thing as stealth EIN. Just like a “stealth ssn”, it’s crossing legal issues there. Stealth is just for platforms who banned us, government issued things, everything has to be legit, no questions.

yankee 01-21-2020 10:46 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptAmerica (Post 1062790)
Tip for anyone adding an EIN to etsy; It typically takes around 4 weeks for that EIN to be able to be verified online. This means if you create an EIN and try to add it to Etsy (or anywhere else) right away, they will try to verify it with the IRS and it will come back as invalid. This information was given to me by an agent when I called the IRS.

You're choices are either to create the EIN well in advance of needing it, or you can also print/fax/email the EIN verification form (Notice: CP 575).

Of course, if you email the form to etsy and have them manually verify it, you risk the chance they could possible ask for additional proof of identity.

Hope this helps anyone in the same situation i was in!

ALL platforms are the same. It is not Etsy issue. It is how the IRS works. Just read about adding EINs to paypal. It is all the same. By-the-way-, you can pay a fee to your STATE to have your EIN show the next day if you chose to do so.

CaptAmerica 01-22-2020 06:30 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1063381)
ALL platforms are the same. It is not Etsy issue. It is how the IRS works. Just read about adding EINs to paypal. It is all the same. By-the-way-, you can pay a fee to your STATE to have your EIN show the next day if you chose to do so.

Correct, it would be the same adding it to any platform since the delay is with the IRS' system. I originally thought i was having an issue with Etsy.

The agent I spoke to only told me about the option of sending a form and did not offer any kind of rush service. I would have gladly paid that

aytan1206 04-10-2020 01:45 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Hello
I read your post on January which is my problem now.
2 days ago i opened E in through online and added it to Ets y after 10-11 hours.
Which another day my sales nearly stopped and same evening i got message from etsy that mismatch irs...
so i tried to edit there my ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name its accepted for now but i think tomorrow i will get same message. Can i know how did you solve it ?
Really will glad to get your help. I could not pm to you sorry if bothering

aytan1206 04-10-2020 01:42 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptAmerica (Post 1061681)
Can anyone help with this? I know i'm not the only one using an EIN. A few month back i created the EIN using real info as i knew i would go over 20k sales. Added the EIN number to Etsy but with stealth name/address. All was good until last week and now etsy is stating:

The name and Tax ID provided does not match the IRS records. Please ensure you enter the correct name associated with your Tax ID provided.

When i created the EIN there was a line to add "Trade name/Doing business as", which I did and i tried using this where etsy is asking for a legal name. This isnt working either as i still get the error message.

I could really use some help. I could just add my real info to the EIN page but i'm definitely afraid that's gonna link me?

Hi did you got my previous reply ?
I m in same situation now and just dont know when etsy will accept ein.
How long it took to accept and until accprt what info you add there ? My sales stopped.

aytan1206 04-15-2020 01:50 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptAmerica (Post 1061681)
Can anyone help with this? I know i'm not the only one using an EIN. A few month back i created the EIN using real info as i knew i would go over 20k sales. Added the EIN number to Etsy but with stealth name/address. All was good until last week and now etsy is stating:

The name and Tax ID provided does not match the IRS records. Please ensure you enter the correct name associated with your Tax ID provided.

When i created the EIN there was a line to add "Trade name/Doing business as", which I did and i tried using this where etsy is asking for a legal name. This isnt working either as i still get the error message.

I could really use some help. I could just add my real info to the EIN page but i'm definitely afraid that's gonna link me?

Hi there
I recently asked question but you did not respond may be this time you can see and reply
Now i m in same situation
How did you solve it?
Etsy almost 3 time messaged me ein doesnot match ir s record.
Looks like i m also enter ein too early.
Now my sales stopped nearly.
How you solved this? Please reply. Thankyou

kirkie2 04-18-2020 05:01 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
UK account 80k no other info required

kirkie2 04-18-2020 05:03 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aytan1206 (Post 1085630)
Hi there
I recently asked question but you did not respond may be this time you can see and reply
Now i m in same situation
How did you solve it?
Etsy almost 3 time messaged me ein doesnot match ir s record.
Looks like i m also enter ein too early.
Now my sales stopped nearly.
How you solved this? Please reply. Thankyou


Try real info

aytan1206 04-21-2020 11:33 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mysgrl (Post 1062222)
I’m stuck trying to figure this out as well.

Hi.
Did you solve it ? Please respond if yes. Its almost 2 weeks i m in same situation.
Thanks. Hope can get reply back

aytan1206 04-21-2020 11:45 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptAmerica (Post 1061966)
Figured it out. Thanks.

I hope you can see and update me before i contact with ets y ))

wilburnet 04-22-2020 07:48 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aytan1206 (Post 1087521)
I hope you can see and update me before i contact with ets y ))

I don't know solution but read up on all the Etsy EIN threads

Btn218 05-31-2020 06:14 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
I'm having this issue too. Anyone entered in taxpayer info recently with success?

aytan1206 06-05-2020 04:16 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Btn218 (Post 1096966)
I'm having this issue too. Anyone entered in taxpayer info recently with success?

I could not get any updates so just closed acct .tried my own details,tried stealth details,wait for 4 weeks not any result.Just account went down day by day so i decided close shop and Closed Ein.
My previous Ei n s were nt any problem.this one made problem i m not sure why .

Flubby2020 06-14-2020 07:36 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Can I put a PO BOX in the ADDRESS FIELD on the TAX ID page in Etsy?

I am about to load my new LLC EIN onto site

Can you someone tell me PLEASE?

etsyvictim 11-12-2020 04:03 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Hello,
I am going through the same thing. I actually had an EIN number from before. I just spoke with an IRS agent as well and they said if I use the EIN number on ETSY, they (ETSY) will verify the number with the IRS and it will pop up my real legal name. So The EIN thing does not work unless you commit fraud by applying for an EIN number with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ss and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, which would be a big mistake considering you can get 5 years in prison for mail and/or wire fraud.
I think you can only do etsy for up to 10 or 12K per year and put shop on vacation. You can't sell over $20k without committing fraud. Bottom Line!

Comax 04-30-2021 11:24 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Were you thinking to change your legal name (first or last) and open new account using EIN?

Duab 05-01-2021 01:03 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Comax (Post 1151784)
Were you thinking to change your legal name (first or last) and open new account using EIN?

Imagine going through all of the procedures to change your last name just to get possibly shut down 5 minutes after opening your account.

MeilenBoss 05-02-2021 10:14 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etsyvictim (Post 1124453)
Hello,
I am going through the same thing. I actually had an EIN number from before. I just spoke with an IRS agent as well and they said if I use the EIN number on ETSY, they (ETSY) will verify the number with the IRS and it will pop up my real legal name. So The EIN thing does not work unless you commit fraud by applying for an EIN number with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ss and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, which would be a big mistake considering you can get 5 years in prison for mail and/or wire fraud.
I think you can only do etsy for up to 10 or 12K per year and put shop on vacation. You can't sell over $20k without committing fraud. Bottom Line!

This is 100% false.

Most likely by "real legal name" the agent meant the name of your LLC.

rsot 05-02-2021 11:39 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duab (Post 1151881)
Imagine going through all of the procedures to change your last name just to get possibly shut down 5 minutes after opening your account.

Such a pain indeed

moe.anobis 09-30-2021 03:54 PM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptAmerica (Post 1063755)
Correct, it would be the same adding it to any platform since the delay is with the IRS' system. I originally thought i was having an issue with Etsy.

The agent I spoke to only told me about the option of sending a form and did not offer any kind of rush service. I would have gladly paid that

Did you find a solution for your problem?

JamesYC 10-13-2021 05:28 AM

Re: Esty EIN
 
Is it possible to register an EIN match the stealth account holder's ID 1-2 months before reaching 20K gross sales?


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