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DrunkOrsonWelles 02-14-2020 10:11 PM

Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Hey guys, another newbie here. Got banned 2 weeks ago and I'm treading carefully so I do this all right. I have 2 main questions in my quest to start anew.

IP address stuff: Has using Starbucks wifi worked for anyone? I live really close to one and wonder if Etsy treats this like a VPN. I noticed they won't let you register using some of the free VPN options I tried. What about resetting my modem for a new IP address? I did this yesterday and the last set of digits changed, say if my banned IP was XX.XXX.XX.123, and is now XX.XXX.XX.99, is this unique enough? Same for my mobile phone, resetting my phone gives me a new number at the end, I was going to use this to tether to my laptop.

Device stuff: I see a lot of conflicting information about MAC addresses, what's the latest consensus on this? I'm only sort of tech savvy, and my understanding is websites can't detect your mac address, but a mobile app can. (Deleting the Etsy app forever) I can't really afford to be buying a new device, but I did just upgrade my laptop from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, and made a new user profile. Is this enough?

teslafan 02-16-2020 07:28 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkOrsonWelles (Post 1069471)
Hey guys, another newbie here. Got banned 2 weeks ago and I'm treading carefully so I do this all right. I have 2 main questions in my quest to start anew.

IP address stuff: Has using Starbucks wifi worked for anyone? I live really close to one and wonder if Etsy treats this like a VPN. I noticed they won't let you register using some of the free VPN options I tried. What about resetting my modem for a new IP address? I did this yesterday and the last set of digits changed, say if my banned IP was XX.XXX.XX.123, and is now XX.XXX.XX.99, is this unique enough? Same for my mobile phone, resetting my phone gives me a new number at the end, I was going to use this to tether to my laptop.

Device stuff: I see a lot of conflicting information about MAC addresses, what's the latest consensus on this? I'm only sort of tech savvy, and my understanding is websites can't detect your mac address, but a mobile app can. (Deleting the Etsy app forever) I can't really afford to be buying a new device, but I did just upgrade my laptop from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, and made a new user profile. Is this enough?

Quick questions - one, when you got banned were you using a VPN? Just curious for my beginners sake. And two, have you tried appealing the suspension? What do you sell by the way?

Kharz 02-16-2020 08:24 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
IP Address: I won't recommend using the Public Wifi. Just do the other options you mentioned. That is more enough and much better to use.

Device: If you're really concerned with the 'linkage' factor, you don't need to get a new device. Just get a new SSD instead, it's much cheaper.

DrunkOrsonWelles 02-16-2020 08:26 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teslafan (Post 1069802)
Quick questions - one, when you got banned were you using a VPN? Just curious for my beginners sake. And two, have you tried appealing the suspension? What do you sell by the way?

Wasn't using a VPN. I got banned for too many copyright claims, I sold anime/game fan art, just small stuff among mostly original art. I did try appealing the suspension but they said I was given plenty of warnings, which is true, my account was made in 2011. Some of my stuff I renamed and removed tags but I got hit again by these trolls at Remove Your Media LLC.

teslafan 02-16-2020 08:30 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1069808)
Welcome.

Nobody can see your MAC address, forget that one.

As for the IP, I would favour either resetting a residential broadband service to get a new IP or do the same with your mobile and tether. Both should create the kind of 'normal' profile they're looking for.


I think the issue is that what if you want multiple stealth accounts? Resetting the ip address would solve one problem. You can use the mobile hotspot for a new user on your computer but that would be tough, because of the limits imposed on hotspot.

DrunkOrsonWelles 02-16-2020 08:36 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kharz (Post 1069814)
IP Address: I won't recommend using the Public Wifi. Just do the other options you mentioned. That is more enough and much better to use.

Device: If you're really concerned with the 'linkage' factor, you don't need to get a new device. Just get a new SSD instead, it's much cheaper.

I didn't realize they could detect your HD, how is that possible? From what I understand just from seeing visitors on my website, I assumed they identify a unique user based on their web browser, operating system, screen resolution, and IP address. How does installing an SSD throw them off?

Kharz 02-16-2020 08:41 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teslafan (Post 1069818)
I think the issue is that what if you want multiple stealth accounts? Resetting the ip address would solve one problem. You can use the mobile hotspot for a new user on your computer but that would be tough, because of the limits imposed on hotspot.

Get a 3G connection. They have much higher number of subnets compared to 4G connections.
And forget about the mac address. They cannot see it.

teslafan 02-16-2020 08:54 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kharz (Post 1069826)
Get a 3G connection. They have much higher number of subnets compared to 4G connections.
And forget about the mac address. They cannot see it.

Yeah but I figured the new user on the mac would be not because they can see the MAC address, but because they can track the cookies on the account(s).

Kharz 02-16-2020 09:01 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teslafan (Post 1069834)
Yeah but I figured the new user on the mac would be not because they can see the MAC address, but because they can track the cookies on the account(s).

That's correct. So make sure you are not sharing the cookies/history on your other accounts.
As tinsoldier mentioned, you can use the VMWare in managing multiple accounts.

teslafan 02-16-2020 09:08 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kharz (Post 1069840)
That's correct. So make sure you are not sharing the cookies/history on your other accounts.
As tinsoldier mentioned, you can use the VMWare in managing multiple accounts.

Very true, now i've never heard of VMWare. But obviously there's going to be a cost, and really what's the difference between managing multiple accounts with VMWare or just doing it with multiple users on your laptop?

Kharz 02-16-2020 09:10 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teslafan (Post 1069843)
Very true, now i've never heard of VMWare. But obviously there's going to be a cost, and really what's the difference between managing multiple accounts with VMWare or just doing it with multiple users on your laptop?

VMWare is free tho. Check it here: https://www.vmware.com/uk.html

Kharz 02-16-2020 09:11 AM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Also, you can find a lot of tutorial on how to set it up on google or youtube vids.
Setting up multiple accounts via user accounts is also good. I never tried them on my etsy accounts yet, only on ebay accounts.

AnnoyedByEtsy 03-29-2020 10:33 PM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
I have used a VPN for my etsy accounts with no issues at all, if you have a modem and can unplug it for a bit and plug it back in to get different IP addresses that works too

NovaC 04-03-2020 08:55 PM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1069825)
It doesn't. Simply create a new user or, IMO the best option, is to format and start afresh.

For multiple accounts consider VMware, but understand that whatever you do IP address is the most common way of linking accounts.

May I ask what "IMO" refer to? Thank You

NovaC 04-03-2020 09:03 PM

Re: Another freshly banned newbie. Will these tricks work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teslafan (Post 1069834)
Yeah but I figured the new user on the mac would be not because they can see the MAC address, but because they can track the cookies on the account(s).

Hello teslafan, are you saying that if my device is running in iOS (i.e. MacBook) but not in Windows, they can see the MAC address and track cookies on the account(s).

Thank You


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