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rsot 01-25-2024 11:11 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonass (Post 1234333)
How many etsy accounts can you open with 1 LLC ?

Feels like 1:1 is best but perhaps you can experiment and report back

accostrichmir 01-28-2024 11:39 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1234303)
why don't you tell us step by step in details what you've done?

Absolutely,
1-Opened new Bank account with different ID
2-Bought new PC, completely new
3-Bought new ISP with the new ID name, and used a different phone for USB tethering using the new ISP provider
4- Installed Firefox on new PC and deactivated location detection on Firefox, no VPN was used whatsoever.
5-Changed images of 3 products
6-and opened the store on new PC, with USB tethering, with new images, with new ID, with new name, with new Address, with new everything.
7-Got suspended 5 days later
8-Appealed suspension, and got email that says they won't reopen my account.

That's my full story.
Please help me buy new etsy account if that's possible.

accostrichmir 01-28-2024 11:40 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadillacrider5127 (Post 1234313)
You have to change the way you answer questions and change the city or location your state they catch on to patterns use the AI description etc. adapt overcome

I'm not from the US.

rsot 01-28-2024 12:30 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Not risky products being sold right away?

accostrichmir 01-28-2024 12:35 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1234581)
Not risky productts being sold right away?

I know my audience and I am pretty good with SEO, so I sell pretty quick.

rsot 01-28-2024 12:36 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234584)
I know my audience and I am pretty good with SEO, so I sell pretty quick.

Fair enough - seems like your steps are good for creation so I was just thinking that it could be your products leading to suspension

aaa7z5 01-30-2024 07:46 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234174)
Then why did I get permanently suspended?

Did you build or import cookies from your main browser? Most people that set up an Etsy account..or any account, should have cookies from 50-500 websites on their browser from browsing...normally. This is only one facet of why you MAY have been flagged.

Also, warming up Etsy accounts seems superfluous currently, according to alot of people. I wont say its unnecessary..but dont create an account and then set up a store three days later thinking that the account will not be flagged.

The accounts are assigned a risk profile at the time of creation.

Lets go over the top. Did you use a verifiable and unique personal ID? A physical bank account? Was your CC able to be charged? Did you set up a listing at all yet?

We need more info to help.

accostrichmir 01-31-2024 06:00 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1234586)
Fair enough - seems like your steps are good for creation so I was just thinking that it could be your products leading to suspension

They are editable templates for online coaches, so they're safe.

accostrichmir 01-31-2024 06:03 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aaa7z5 (Post 1234776)
Did you build or import cookies from your main browser? Most people that set up an Etsy account..or any account, should have cookies from 50-500 websites on their browser from browsing...normally. This is only one facet of why you MAY have been flagged.

Also, warming up Etsy accounts seems superfluous currently, according to alot of people. I wont say its unnecessary..but dont create an account and then set up a store three days later thinking that the account will not be flagged.

The accounts are assigned a risk profile at the time of creation.

Lets go over the top. Did you use a verifiable and unique personal ID? A physical bank account? Was your CC able to be charged? Did you set up a listing at all yet?

We need more info to help.

PC was new, so was the browser and everything else, nothing imported, all new.

1- Did you use a verifiable and unique personal ID? Yep
2- A physical bank account? Check
3- Was your CC able to be charged? Yep
4- Did you set up a listing at all yet? Set up 4 listings and got one sale.

accostrichmir 01-31-2024 06:06 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
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Originally Posted by jonass (Post 1234334)
There is no other way they can trace you, like i told you sometimes warming up the account might be necessary, if you haven't done that and also if your info you used to register is leaked on the internet, there might be some chance that somebody else opened an account with it, that will cause suspensions.

Maybe warming up was necessary, I didn't think it was important since I already had an store I created right away without warming and there was no issue.
As for the info, they're fresh so no chance that's the problem.

rsot 01-31-2024 09:53 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234802)
Maybe warming up was necessary, I didn't think it was important since I already had an store I created right away without warming and there was no issue.
As for the info, they're fresh so no chance that's the problem.

Personally, I like the idea of warming up with activity prior to selling

rswomA 01-31-2024 02:41 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
I don't know why people struggle with creating Etsy accounts while it can be easily done

accostrichmir 02-01-2024 12:19 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rswomA (Post 1234844)
I don't know why people struggle with creating Etsy accounts while it can be easily done

I'd appreciate your help, if you can guide me through it.

aaa7z5 02-04-2024 09:05 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rswomA (Post 1234844)
I don't know why people struggle with creating Etsy accounts while it can be easily done

Creating accounts is easy. Getting an account from creation to opening a shop successfully and listing items for sale while not getting suspended in the first month, is not so simple.

agent006140 02-04-2024 09:45 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Etsy would let you open an account,a shop and when you get your first sale,then it starts looking into your setup

aaa7z5 02-04-2024 09:06 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1235087)
Etsy would let you open an account,a shop and when you get your first sale,then it starts looking into your setup

Yes..also I recently learned during my account testing that Etsy has secretly(?) added some items to the blacklisted catalog. Purged dozens of accounts that were in direct competition with me, sad to see them go, as it spells the end of my time being profitable on Etsy.

Also, you must be careful with writing descriptions...if you write them using AI, you will likely be banned..be careful! It happened to me!!!

I thought i was being cute by slashing the time it takes posting a listing by using AI very obviously to fill out a nice keyword-heavy description to boost listing visibility and I was banned by Etsy's AI algorithm.

Robot recognize robot....:spy:

rsot 02-05-2024 06:27 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1235087)
Etsy would let you open an account,a shop and when you get your first sale,then it starts looking into your setup

Right on - in fact many online platforms operate like that.

I recently tried something new with shopify - easy creation then they start looking deeper after few initial sales

tedsmith1990 02-05-2024 11:57 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234103)
I opened a new store this month

These are the steps I took:

=New ID
=New address
=New Internet provider + USB tethering
=New PC
=New bank account
=New product images
=Deactivated geo location in Firefox
=Deactivated geo location in PC

I've done EVERYTHING there is to do not to get suspended, and STILL, yesterday I received the death mail: you are permanently suspended from Etsy.

After all of this, I really don't think there is any hope left.

I think Etsy stealth is basically impossible.

This is my experience, so maybe I should just buy a new Etsy store, but still, they detected my IP and probably have some way of detecting PC too..


Hi,would like to if you were asked to upload ID during registration?I opened an new account yesterday and hadnt been asked to upload ID. The account is still alive. Until now almost 100%successful of creations

TheBosss 02-06-2024 11:58 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbsofsteel31 (Post 1234312)
I attempted to create 5 stealth store after my Etsy suspension without any success UNTIL I created my own LLC. Opened a store without any issues once I did that. I still have to follow stealth method but I am thinking they were linking my social.

So as long as you have different EIN's you can use the same SSN?

rsot 02-10-2024 10:13 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBosss (Post 1235367)
So as long as you have different EIN's you can use the same SSN?

Unless they ask for the SSN on top of the EIN...?

tedsmith1990 02-11-2024 06:17 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aaa7z5 (Post 1235149)
Yes..also I recently learned during my account testing that Etsy has secretly(?) added some items to the blacklisted catalog. Purged dozens of accounts that were in direct competition with me, sad to see them go, as it spells the end of my time being profitable on Etsy.

Also, you must be careful with writing descriptions...if you write them using AI, you will likely be banned..be careful! It happened to me!!!

I thought i was being cute by slashing the time it takes posting a listing by using AI very obviously to fill out a nice keyword-heavy description to boost listing visibility and I was banned by Etsy's AI algorithm.

Robot recognize robot....:spy:


my description writen with AI, accounts work well!

tedsmith1990 02-11-2024 06:20 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
I got your PM.

I asked you the question in my previous post and didnt get answer from you.

Abbsofsteel31 02-13-2024 12:12 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBosss (Post 1235367)
So as long as you have different EIN's you can use the same SSN?

It's a great question - I don't know the answer. I've only attempted to use my LLC once and it worked. If anyone else knows how many times you can use a single LLC or multiple EIN #'s, would love to know!

Abbsofsteel31 02-13-2024 12:13 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonass (Post 1234333)
How many etsy accounts can you open with 1 LLC ?

I've heard people say unlimited, but I've also heard people say only one. I haven't made it that far yet. Only running one account with my first LLC number.

franci 02-21-2024 06:48 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234103)
I opened a new store this month

These are the steps I took:

=New ID
=New address
=New Internet provider + USB tethering
=New PC
=New bank account
=New product images
=Deactivated geo location in Firefox
=Deactivated geo location in PC

I've done EVERYTHING there is to do not to get suspended, and STILL, yesterday I received the death mail: you are permanently suspended from Etsy.

After all of this, I really don't think there is any hope left.

I think Etsy stealth is basically impossible.

This is my experience, so maybe I should just buy a new Etsy store, but still, they detected my IP and probably have some way of detecting PC too..

Did you opened a Shop without suspend now

cocopuffsss 02-23-2024 12:51 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1235539)
Unless they ask for the SSN on top of the EIN...?

They do ask for SSN on top of EIN now. They ask for Owner of the LLC's name, home address and SSN. This is a new development, and I don't know how to get around it :help:

Jackies 02-23-2024 05:24 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
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Originally Posted by cocopuffsss (Post 1236164)
They do ask for SSN on top of EIN now. They ask for Owner of the LLC's name, home address and SSN. This is a new development, and I don't know how to get around it :help:

Did you try open acc today?

cocopuffsss 02-23-2024 01:18 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackies (Post 1236169)
Did you try open acc today?

Yeah, I tried today and when you select business they ask not only for EIN but also LLC owner's SSN and address

Jackies 02-23-2024 02:08 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cocopuffsss (Post 1236183)
Yeah, I tried today and when you select business they ask not only for EIN but also LLC owner's SSN and address

I thought they always asked about it in the US

gamer5 03-15-2024 08:54 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rswomA (Post 1234844)
I don't know why people struggle with creating Etsy accounts while it can be easily done

Hi, can you pm me pls? I need mega help

gamer5 03-15-2024 08:56 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1234815)
Personally, I like the idea of warming up with activity prior to selling

HI, can you let me know what exactly you mean by warming up an account? Thank you!!

rsot 03-15-2024 09:36 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gamer5 (Post 1237544)
HI, can you let me know what exactly you mean by warming up an account? Thank you!!

browsing and bidding for 2-3 weeks - don't necessarily have to win the items

meerce 03-18-2024 03:43 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Did you manage to find a way to open a shops now?

rsot 03-18-2024 07:46 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meerce (Post 1237667)
Did you manage to find a way to open a shops now?

what approach do you use with any success?

hellosugarmaven 03-20-2024 06:07 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cocopuffsss (Post 1236164)
They do ask for SSN on top of EIN now. They ask for Owner of the LLC's name, home address and SSN. This is a new development, and I don't know how to get around it :help:

Same. I'm stuck here as well. Have you found any solution?


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