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accostrichmir 01-22-2024 08:21 AM

Is there's even any hope
 
I opened a new store this month

These are the steps I took:

=New ID
=New address
=New Internet provider + USB tethering
=New PC
=New bank account
=New product images
=Deactivated geo location in Firefox
=Deactivated geo location in PC

I've done EVERYTHING there is to do not to get suspended, and STILL, yesterday I received the death mail: you are permanently suspended from Etsy.

After all of this, I really don't think there is any hope left.

I think Etsy stealth is basically impossible.

This is my experience, so maybe I should just buy a new Etsy store, but still, they detected my IP and probably have some way of detecting PC too..

inchiaro10 01-22-2024 08:28 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Etsy is suspending everyone new acc during this period, suspension occurs upon creation or after the first sale.
I'm sure they are suspending new legitimate users too.
Perhaps, they have decided to no longer accept new users or self-destruct


However in your case, what item did you list?
What photos were they?

accostrichmir 01-22-2024 08:51 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inchiaro10 (Post 1234105)
Etsy is suspending everyone new acc during this period, suspension occurs upon creation or after the first sale.
I'm sure they are suspending new legitimate users too.
Perhaps, they have decided to no longer accept new users or self-destruct


However in your case, what item did you list?
What photos were they?

I sell mainly digital products that I make myself, I used to sell them on Etsy for a year and made good money until I violated one rule unknowingly, and now I'm paying for it I guess.

allpurposelife 01-22-2024 09:08 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234103)
I opened a new store this month

These are the steps I took:

=New ID
=New address
=New Internet provider + USB tethering
=New PC
=New bank account
=New product images
=Deactivated geo location in Firefox
=Deactivated geo location in PC

I've done EVERYTHING there is to do not to get suspended, and STILL, yesterday I received the death mail: you are permanently suspended from Etsy.

After all of this, I really don't think there is any hope left.

I think Etsy stealth is basically impossible.

This is my experience, so maybe I should just buy a new Etsy store, but still, they detected my IP and probably have some way of detecting PC too..

simply because you overthink too much. you've done too much unnecessary stuffs as it's just easy to make a new account without doing steps you mentioned.

accostrichmir 01-22-2024 09:13 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allpurposelife (Post 1234110)
simply because you overthink too much. you've done too much unnecessary stuffs as it's just easy to make a new account without doing steps you mentioned.

I made 3 other account without "overthinking too much" still got suspended.

Jackies 01-22-2024 09:56 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inchiaro10 (Post 1234105)
Etsy is suspending everyone new acc during this period, suspension occurs upon creation or after the first sale.
I'm sure they are suspending new legitimate users too.
Perhaps, they have decided to no longer accept new users or self-destruct


However in your case, what item did you list?
What photos were they?

this is not true, study more

DENDEN76 01-22-2024 10:26 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Can the experts give advice on how an account should be made?

inchiaro10 01-22-2024 10:44 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackies (Post 1234127)
this is not true, study more

There is a full forum where these suspensions are discussed.

I purchased paid accounts for ETSY and that was also suspended after the first sale.
I didn't use VPN, but residential proxy
I used a new VM with same timezone of coutry acc
I built cookies for the first 3 days
I uploaded no risk and handmade item, without exif and not download from google or ebay, but real pic
Not changed bank account
Bank has same name as ETSY account owner, same for card linked.

I followed all this and the account was banned. If you can tell me more you are welcome.

agent006140 01-22-2024 12:39 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Not changed bank account
Bank has same name as ETSY account owner, same for card linked.
-------------
???

accostrichmir 01-22-2024 01:46 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DENDEN76 (Post 1234128)
Can the experts give advice on how an account should be made?

Literally everything they say here is not true, at least for Etsy. The platform is way too strict and no one knows how they find out it's you who opened the account.
Opening an Etsy account after being suspended is basically impossible.

agent006140 01-22-2024 03:20 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
if the technology is available to Etsy,it must be available to the other venues as well?
what else do you do besides Etsy?
You get up in the morning and sign in to your ISP,where do you go,what do you do?

accostrichmir 01-22-2024 04:34 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1234138)
if the technology is available to Etsy,it must be available to the other venues as well?
what else do you do besides Etsy?
You get up in the morning and sign in to your ISP,where do you go,what do you do?

Depends on which PC I use, I have two PC's and two ISP, I bought a new PC and ISP mainly to start this Etsy account, so I don't do anything on both of them besides working on Etsy.

SaiJin 01-22-2024 05:43 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234142)
Depends on which PC I use, I have two PC's and two ISP, I bought a new PC and ISP mainly to start this Etsy account, so I don't do anything on both of them besides working on Etsy.

I think that's the best way. Keep everything separate, no shenanigans , no cutting corners and keeping everything disciplined.

MarkLorence 01-22-2024 06:49 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1234134)
Not changed bank account
Bank has same name as ETSY account owner, same for card linked.
-------------
???


I think that all the correct steps are made the bank name is not the issue

accostrichmir 01-23-2024 06:42 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1234155)
I think that's the best way. Keep everything separate, no shenanigans , no cutting corners and keeping everything disciplined.

Then why did I get permanently suspended?

allpurposelife 01-23-2024 07:26 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackies (Post 1234127)
this is not true, study more

mate, i can't reply from your private message for some reason

rsot 01-23-2024 08:29 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allpurposelife (Post 1234176)
mate, i can't reply from your private message for some reason

You need 25 posts to reply to pm's from regular members

mrsalexia 01-23-2024 10:55 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
a hope is the mother of stupid =D

jonass 01-23-2024 11:40 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
I Only started Etsy a few weeks ago, but they suspended my account a few months ago, I don't remember if it is permanent but they fixed it after i emailed them. So that maybe the reason or have you checked the health of the IP you used to register. Sometimes even this ISP Ip's also get abused, You said you used a New Pc but again said they detected my pc ?, and also keep track of your IP even if you are using different ISP, there is still a chance of using your old IP again.

SaiJin 01-23-2024 11:44 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234174)
Then why did I get permanently suspended?

If you truly have been disciplined with your account making and managing, then you know it's not due to the creation.

It's something else.

BTW, i saw you deadctivated some things on your browser? I'd stop messing with the browser and let it run normally.

The only thing I'd add to my browser is an extension for IPburger and that's all I've done personally.
No anti fingerprint, or this or that extension BS.

stammer 01-23-2024 02:52 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1234225)
If you truly have been disciplined with your account making and managing, then you know it's not due to the creation.

It's something else.

BTW, i saw you deadctivated some things on your browser? I'd stop messing with the browser and let it run normally.

The only thing I'd add to my browser is an extension for IPburger and that's all I've done personally.
No anti fingerprint, or this or that extension BS.

That's old fashioned, What about timezone? What about webrtc? What about .....

tedsmith1990 01-23-2024 11:56 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Well, did you just use the residental IP for your internet environment? That's not enough

tedsmith1990 01-24-2024 12:09 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
And don't you think you tried to "protect" your computer too much ?

"=Deactivated geo location in Firefox
=Deactivated geo location in PC"

I never had done that.

inchiaro10 01-24-2024 06:11 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
I tried both using a residential proxy and a real and clean IP via mobile hotspot (definitely an IP that hasn't been abused)

In both cases I was banned a few days after the first sale

jonass 01-24-2024 07:13 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stammer (Post 1234236)
That's old fashioned, What about timezone? What about webrtc? What about .....

He said he used a new pc and new sim card so the webrtc leak don't matter, he is using his hotspot ip, there is nothing to leak

jonass 01-24-2024 07:17 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inchiaro10 (Post 1234277)
I tried both using a residential proxy and a real and clean IP via mobile hotspot (definitely an IP that hasn't been abused)

In both cases I was banned a few days after the first sale

I think you should contact them about this, Have you warmed up the account before you made a sale ?

tedsmith1990 01-24-2024 08:54 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonass (Post 1234282)
He said he used a new pc and new sim card so the webrtc leak don't matter, he is using his hotspot ip, there is nothing to leak

Where is your location and which country account did you create?

Because if you just had residental IP , it was not enough.

accostrichmir 01-24-2024 11:01 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tedsmith1990 (Post 1234257)
Well, did you just use the residental IP for your internet environment? That's not enough

Yes I did, nothing worked.

accostrichmir 01-24-2024 11:01 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tedsmith1990 (Post 1234258)
And don't you think you tried to "protect" your computer too much ?

"=Deactivated geo location in Firefox
=Deactivated geo location in PC"

I never had done that.

That's just extra care, nothing close to VPN or anything, it's a setting in Firefox and I figured it could help further so I used it.:nono:

accostrichmir 01-24-2024 11:03 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonass (Post 1234223)
I Only started Etsy a few weeks ago, but they suspended my account a few months ago, I don't remember if it is permanent but they fixed it after i emailed them. So that maybe the reason or have you checked the health of the IP you used to register. Sometimes even this ISP Ip's also get abused, You said you used a New Pc but again said they detected my pc ?, and also keep track of your IP even if you are using different ISP, there is still a chance of using your old IP again.

I emailed them and they replied that they can't reinstate the store.
The IP was the basically the same the whole time.
That's why I am so sure that none of the things we mention on this forum is the reason of suspension, they are taking different things into consideration.

accostrichmir 01-24-2024 11:05 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DENDEN76 (Post 1234128)
Can the experts give advice on how an account should be made?

I followed the experts btw, from usb tethering to buying new PC, I followed it all but nothing works. It seems that Etsy has a different system than the one everyone thinks they follow.

SaiJin 01-24-2024 11:06 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stammer (Post 1234236)
That's old fashioned, What about timezone? What about webrtc? What about .....

I don't need timezone, I don't need webrtc... lmao

and yes I'm old fashioned, no I haven't had any accounts suspended for MANY MANY years except the ones I made a stupid mistake on.

Like I said in another thread just now... old way works. Basic works.
We get this far in life because of OLD fashion basics and traditions, and we BUILD upon those old ways, but we NEVER abandon the old ways that have been working since inception.

a lot of times less is more and keeping it simple is better.

Most people think they need new ways and when there is a new way they don't realize the basics are all the same and they think that the newest methods will turn them into millionaires over night.

If I get $1 everytime I have to say "I told you so" , I'd be a billionaire at this point. You have no idea how many people have sworn by VPS or anti detect browser, doing stuff they aren't really supposed to do only to see them come back a few weeks or months later crying and asking for help.

Stop taking short cuts, stop instant gratification. If 1 OLD way works with the LEAST amount of risk or even is fool proof, even if at times it's a little inconvenient, I'd keep doing the inconvenient but fool proof way.

SaiJin 01-24-2024 11:07 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234301)
I followed the experts btw, from usb tethering to buying new PC, I followed it all but nothing works. It seems that Etsy has a different system than the one everyone thinks they follow.

why don't you tell us step by step in details what you've done?

SaiJin 01-24-2024 11:09 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tedsmith1990 (Post 1234257)
Well, did you just use the residental IP for your internet environment? That's not enough

You're asking me this?

If so the answer is YES. For IP? Yes that's more than enough.

I stick with IPburger though, so if you use a different company well that's on you

Abbsofsteel31 01-24-2024 02:02 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
I attempted to create 5 stealth store after my Etsy suspension without any success UNTIL I created my own LLC. Opened a store without any issues once I did that. I still have to follow stealth method but I am thinking they were linking my social.

Cadillacrider5127 01-24-2024 03:50 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
You have to change the way you answer questions and change the city or location your state they catch on to patterns use the AI description etc. adapt overcome

jonass 01-24-2024 10:59 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbsofsteel31 (Post 1234312)
I attempted to create 5 stealth store after my Etsy suspension without any success UNTIL I created my own LLC. Opened a store without any issues once I did that. I still have to follow stealth method but I am thinking they were linking my social.

How many etsy accounts can you open with 1 LLC ?

jonass 01-24-2024 11:04 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accostrichmir (Post 1234299)
I emailed them and they replied that they can't reinstate the store.
The IP was the basically the same the whole time.
That's why I am so sure that none of the things we mention on this forum is the reason of suspension, they are taking different things into consideration.

There is no other way they can trace you, like i told you sometimes warming up the account might be necessary, if you haven't done that and also if your info you used to register is leaked on the internet, there might be some chance that somebody else opened an account with it, that will cause suspensions.

moon123 01-24-2024 11:58 PM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbsofsteel31 (Post 1234312)
I attempted to create 5 stealth store after my Etsy suspension without any success UNTIL I created my own LLC. Opened a store without any issues once I did that. I still have to follow stealth method but I am thinking they were linking my social.


Still will ask you to upload ID like your passport

inchiaro10 01-25-2024 04:57 AM

Re: Is there's even any hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonass (Post 1234334)
There is no other way they can trace you, like i told you sometimes warming up the account might be necessary, if you haven't done that and also if your info you used to register is leaked on the internet, there might be some chance that somebody else opened an account with it, that will cause suspensions.

Ok to warm up the account, but they often ban after 3 days of creation.


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