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Direct Checkout with integrated Paypal
 

All new accounts will have to have Direct Checkout now in the USA. No more standalone paypal. Need to link a bank account and verify with part of ssn.

Just saw this news on ecommercebytes and the etsy blog.

Previous stand alone Paypal accounts are all good tho. May need to do some opt outing, so research into that for your own accounts.

Guessing they are trying to get rid of Paypal and have all payments go through Etsy.

All happening in Oct. Gotta have that 4th quarter growth. So lame.

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I assume this applies to Etsy only and has nothing to do with ebay.

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Etsy only.

Etsy made some kind of deal to where it will accept Paypal through direct checkout. So buyers can pay using paypal even if a seller does not have a paypal account.

The change is a little confusing, but it is probably to keep all transactions in the etsy ecosystem. Also, etsy can collect all personal data on the person using the marketplace.

Hmmm...time to get my own website started. Been putting it off for too long.

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No more standalone paypal. Need to link a bank account and verify with part of ssn.


Where did you see this part?

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Need to enter the bank account details. Then verify identity with last 4 digits.
That is what happened last time I tried to register for Direct checkout.

Also any new accounts will not have any money deposited in a Paypal account. All payments from buyers through Direct Checkout with Paypal go into your Direct Checkout fund.

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Need to enter the bank account details. Then verify identity with last 4 digits.
That is what happened last time I tried to register for Direct checkout.


That has always been the case. Direct Checkout is a merchant account service provided by etsy.

Where did you see that they will ban standalone Paypal and force everyone to sign up for Direct Checkout?

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All previous store with paypal standalone are fine. But from now on, all new sellers will have to sign up with direct checkout only!

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Where is the proof of that? Did etsy say that?

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Here is the info with some links to etsy as well
ecommercebytes
Etsy Makes Checkout with PayPal Mandatory in New Shops

New accounts will not be able to have standalone paypal. Current accounts can still have standalone accounts. If you were planning on opening a stealth with stand alone paypal, not going to happen.

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Oh yeah, thanks for the link. That explains it more clearly than the other info I found.

Basically, it means that stealth accounts will not be possible in the US anymore. Canada, maybe. Since most etsy business doesn't really need a accessible address, not the end of the world, but it will complicate things significantly for people who ship merchandise and don't just operate digital download only stores.

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I have heard about the canada stealth being a possibility. Has anyone in the USA made a stealth etsy account with standalone paypal?

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I have heard about the canada stealth being a possibility. Has anyone in the USA made a stealth etsy account with standalone paypal?

You can do it no problem. The issue becomes shipping physical items. Would you just use a separate system like stamps.com and pop in the tracking number manually, and hope etsy doesn't notice it isn't being shipped from Canada? Fewer sales anyway since people won't want to deal with what they will think is international shipping.

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so, if i told you i just made a new stealth account, what would you say?

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I'd say tell us how you did that.

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I just took the reports word for it.

I will also try today.

will update later

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Let me just tell you this...ecommercebytes is a place of n00bs. They do not practice ste.alth. All they are good for is news updates and aggregation.

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You never had success entering an EIN's last four with a matching business name?

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Anyone have any luck? I'm going to make a fresh EIN and hope for the best when trying to open a new shop. It was easier before going Paypal - adding TAX ID after shop opened - DC. Now, I don't know if the same thing will work since it's DC first. Any advice?

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EIN? That does NOT work for direct checkout. I'm guessing unknown5454 is hinting at some backdoor approach to circumvent the DC signup process. I've read of such things on the etsy boards as well, but nothing definitive.

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Wanted to add that it probably is not a problem shipping from the USA if located in another country. Etsy allows fulfillment in their terms of service. Design in one country, ship in another.

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Question is how does that fulfillment option affect the payment types you are forced to sign up for?

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I think I remember trying to do a Canada address with US bank account for direct checkout, and it asked for SSN/etc.

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take it to PM and keep it off of here.

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They really just make me happier and happier that I do not sell on that platform any longer!

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Any luck opening a stealth at Etsy?

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I am new, cant send you PM yet. :pout:

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in same position. I want to open a standalone paypal with etsy.

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In same position! I want to open a standalone paypal with etsy. :help:

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I'm on my way to open a new account on Et/s.y, but still need time and gather some information. Will do it this next weekend.

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Same here cant pm yet

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My shop has been open for 9 days now. Fingers crossed ;)

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12.31, At this time, all new United States based shops will need to register for Direct Checkout when signing up.

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First I would say, "hail to the greatness", then I would ask the below because I'm new and very stuck, even after reading the book...which is most about e.bay, which I do not sell on because my traffic was on et.sy....
1. I'm assuming the EIN can get tracked back to you. I used an EIN on my closed shop and received a message that the EIN "name" did not match the IRS database. So what info is the IRS sending back, just the name or all the info for EIN? BTW.....it was an old EIN from my business 10 years ago, which was NOT on ETSY...that is why the name did not match.
2. Can you still pay fees with Van CC and use their mailing labels and DC?
3. For DC don't you need to have a bank account that matches name and EIN, or can I get a VBA in the stealth name without linking?
4. I am at this point willing to pay for info. Just let me know if your interested!

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New and can't PM yet. How can I gain your VERY useful insight?

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I can't PM, I'm new. Can you please share? I was on et.sy and got the boot with real name, real bank actt and ein. Now what because new requirements say US can only do DC.

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Any luck with the stealth for et.sy with 5454unknown? I can't PM anyone, I'm new.

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I'd be really really grateful for some information on this, seems to be some people here with great knowledge on making etsy accounts that work.

Please can someone show me the light, i can imagine PM's keep secrets alive.

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I can bet too - even with my all my existence here on the forum, I am not privy to secrets so what makes you think you will get the rights?

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Yeah, I've been a member over six years and some people won't even discuss certain stealth techniques with me either despite helping people in PM's.

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I imagine the main reasons for people not sharing info and asking for PM's instead are

1. Best not to make our techniques too public, we wouldn't want the selling sites to see how we slip past them. They'd just tighten their security and reduce the loop holes we can take advantage of.

2. I know one of the main things needed to get approved is something that a few people on this forum actually make a profit on, so they might not be so willing to throw money away ;)

I set up a new E--y with this DC thing, and so far looks like I've been approved. Might be nice to not have to bother with stealth PP and VCC's now :)