Watching Trump's inauguration

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by oompaloompa

only thing is why you would want to stop basic healthcare for all? I know it is expensive but do people really die and not get treated? I do not understand the system that well, but find that shocking.......

In my opinion it's been a flawed program since the beginning. Obamacare certainly hasn't helped everyone get health insurance as it was intended to do. It's a socialist program which robs the rich in order to support the poor who would rather not work to support themselves. As a self-employed individual with an income the government considers "high", I'm not able to get health insurance ANYWHERE for less than $700 per month. I'm in my 20's and haven't been to a doctor in years. But I'm expected to pay $8400 per year for insurance I would very rarely need. And if I don't pay the $8400 per year then I'm forced to pay an extra $700 on my taxes each year. So, why would I pay so much for insurance I'll never use when I can pay $7700 less per year (in tax penalties).

Don't get me wrong. I have a family and want to have health insurance for all of us. Since this program has started though it's simply not been an option for us. We are healthy and young but since our income is high, we would essentially be paying for the rest of America's health insurance rather than our own.

It's nonsense. If it were truly "affordable healthcare for all" then I wouldn't be expected to pay so much for a program I have little use for.

I voted for Trump, watched the inauguration in it's entirety, and couldn't be happier that the socialist is finally out of office. Apparently a growing minority of American's welcome communism with open arms, even though our country as a whole has always been against communism and has attempted to eradicate it from the world.

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[Melix]

Still can't believe it really happened...

[yotano211]

Originally Posted by BlackLion

I like animals

I like tacos

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Melix

Still can't believe it really happened...

I think he also can't believe it yet - still campaigning hah

[MM78]

Originally Posted by yotano211

I like tacos

Yes sir....

[empirestate]

Damn that looks so good my mouth is watering...

[phaz0rz]

*smh*

Get with the program everyone. It's just a new president. Everyone acts like it's officially the end of the world. What are all of you really expecting to happen now that Trump is president?

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

*smh*

Get with the program everyone. It's just a new president. Everyone acts like it's officially the end of the world. What are all of you really expecting to happen now that Trump is president?

Life will get better for everyone!

[MM78]

Originally Posted by jojo2012

Life will get better for everyone!

That's interesting, how so?

[rookprop]

I watched some of it. Heard part of the speech. His speeches are usualy the same. If you watch one, youre good for that month.

I watched the riots and people protesting by breaking windows and burning cars and attacking Trump supporters and watching people block the paths of military service men which is absolutely disrepesctful.

I watched the "womens march" which doesnt fit the title. It was more of a HILLARY WOMEN MARCH because if it was about womens rights, WHY HATE ON FEMALE TRUMP SUPPORTERS??? isnt it about ALL WOMEN? Or was it just about protesting Trump but in female form?

And for those thinking its gonna be Hitler and Germany all over again: Please get a history lesson and see how Germany allowed Hitler to gain the power he did. America is not in the position to give that type of power to a president. There are safe guards in effect. They said the same about Obama. etc.

For those saying Trump is against women: He is for planned parenthood and said he would VETO any bill trying to defund it. He would like to pass a bill getting maternity leave payments for women for up to 8 weeks. No republican president has ever tried to get such a bill passed but he is already working towards it. So not sure why these women feel he is against them. But get a whore like Madona who writes in her books about how she LOVES being submissive with men and handled by men etc yet she is agsinst being "grabbed by the pussy?" I would not let any girl read her filthy sex books. Yet she is all about being treated like a proper lady all of a sudden?

THESE ARE FACTS: Anything else I type is my opinion. I will pass on that.

[rookprop]

If you all wanna protest something. Protest the owners of the WORLD BANKS and the Federal Reserve. They make 6 cents off every dollar they print. They LOVE when the debt gets higher and gets up to 20 trillion because they then have to print more money to cover that debt. Then we are obligated as Americans to pay that debt. So SIX PERCENT of 20 Trillion is 1.2 TRILLION dollars they made off of our obligation to repay this. YES, we then pay a debt on the 6 percent we then have to also cover.

The ROTHCHILDS are worth 5 TRILLION DOLLARS. You think Bill gates is rich? He is worth 60 billion. 5 TRILLION makes him look like a homeless person. No one ever talks about the ROTHCHILD family. No one talks about Rockefellers who are worth 1 TRILLION. Know why? Becasue they make absolutely certain their names are kept out of history books and financial tracking. They OWN THE WHITE HOUSE. If you disagree, you get assasinated.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by MM78

That's interesting, how so?

Do you really want to ask me this question? I'll go ahead . his influence has already saved tens of thousands of jobs. many very large companies have already decided to scrap plans for Mexico, move back to the United States and or stay in the United States instead of leaving. General Motors, Ford ,Chrysler, carrier .Amazon ,Walmart ,sprint, even L.L. Bean. have promised to keep jobs here. Large companies like General Motors have already vowed to invest billions of dollars into Michigan alone. Look at any job site like CareerBuilder , monster read Clark Howard's site, or Dave Ramsey (both financial experts) jobs talk to any college or tech school and ask them what the job outlook is for 2017. he's only been president for a couple days. It's a complete turnaround from the direction of the jobs were going six months ago. I could go on but I'm sure you already know the answers.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by rookprop

I watched some of it. Heard part of the speech. His speeches are usualy the same. If you watch one, youre good for that month.

I watched the riots and people protesting by breaking windows and burning cars and attacking Trump supporters and watching people block the paths of military service men which is absolutely disrepesctful.

I watched the "womens march" which doesnt fit the title. It was more of a HILLARY WOMEN MARCH because if it was about womens rights, WHY HATE ON FEMALE TRUMP SUPPORTERS??? isnt it about ALL WOMEN? Or was it just about protesting Trump but in female form?

And for those thinking its gonna be Hitler and Germany all over again: Please get a history lesson and see how Germany allowed Hitler to gain the power he did. America is not in the position to give that type of power to a president. There are safe guards in effect. They said the same about Obama. etc.

For those saying Trump is against women: He is for planned parenthood and said he would VETO any bill trying to defund it. He would like to pass a bill getting maternity leave payments for women for up to 8 weeks. No republican president has ever tried to get such a bill passed but he is already working towards it. So not sure why these women feel he is against them. But get a whore like Madona who writes in her books about how she LOVES being submissive with men and handled by men etc yet she is agsinst being "grabbed by the pussy?" I would not let any girl read her filthy sex books. Yet she is all about being treated like a proper lady all of a sudden?

THESE ARE FACTS: Anything else I type is my opinion. I will pass on that.

Actually that women's march was a ruse created by the march organizer "Linda Sasour" (please google her) , the ruse is to create a following to promote a very different agenda she would like to see for America , in fact nowhere in the marches publicity, news conferences, social media pages, announcements or the speakers did they ever utter the word "Hillary " .

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by MM78

That's interesting, how so?

We will have to put up with this approach from now on.


"Alternative facts are not facts. They are falsehoods."

[rookprop]

Originally Posted by jojo2012

Actually that women's march was a ruse created by the march organizer "Linda Sasour" (please google her) , the ruse is to create a following to promote a very different agenda she would like to see for America , in fact nowhere in the marches publicity, news conferences, social media pages, announcements or the speakers did they ever utter the word "Hillary " .

Yeah. Probably.
I just wanna buy solar, dig a well, buy some seeds, plant some trees, buy some chickens, roosters, buy some supplies, and be good for any drama. Even Earthquakes knocking out CALIs power grid longer than 2 weeks will cause major riots and food shortage. Just dont wanna deal with it.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

We will have to put up with this approach from now on.


"Alternative facts are not facts. They are falsehoods."

And this is why he won. Kelly Ann Conway mis spoke, she meant to say "alternate source" when referring to the size of the crowd & she very quickly corrected herself. But the left wing media ran with her mis spoken phrase because misrepresentation of her words serves their agenda while the truth supports their opponents.

[rsot]

What was that word recognized recently... "Post-truth" or so

[MM78]

Originally Posted by jojo2012

Do you really want to ask me this question? I'll go ahead . his influence has already saved tens of thousands of jobs. many very large companies have already decided to scrap plans for Mexico, move back to the United States and or stay in the United States instead of leaving. General Motors, Ford ,Chrysler, carrier .Amazon ,Walmart ,sprint, even L.L. Bean. have promised to keep jobs here. Large companies like General Motors have already vowed to invest billions of dollars into Michigan alone. Look at any job site like CareerBuilder , monster read Clark Howard's site, or Dave Ramsey (both financial experts) jobs talk to any college or tech school and ask them what the job outlook is for 2017. he's only been president for a couple days. It's a complete turnaround from the direction of the jobs were going six months ago. I could go on but I'm sure you already know the answers.

You seem to be giving Trump way too much credit for all these Companies bringing back manufacturing to the USA....As far as Carrier that's the only company Trump had his hands into. As far as Ford, GM, Chrysler here is what I have found so far.

I do enjoy how you somehow have correlated Trump to Companies moving back to the USA, you think these companies come up with these decisions on the fly? pfff.

Show me where any of the Companies you mentioned specifically say that Trump had anything to do with their moves back to the USA other than Carrier, I would love to read your sources.

Tens of Thousands of Jobs? You must be taking classes from Kellyanne Conway.

Lets examine some of these so called Trump Victories or Deals you speak of, shall we?

General Motors
http://www.fool.com/investing/2017/0...new-trend.aspx

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/01/03...general-motors

Trump tweeted early Tuesday that GM is sending Mexican-made Cruzes to the U.S. tax-free. He told GM to make the cars in the U.S. “or pay big border tax!

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gener...ry?id=44831865

In a statement, GM said the investments will "cover multiple new vehicle, advanced technology and component projects," culminating in 1,500 jobs. The Detroit-based manufacturer said it also intends to shift some production work from Mexico back to the U.S.

Ford
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/should-t...out-of-mexico/

But John Kasich heard about Trump's tweets and is probably justifiably irritated because, as it turns out, the credit for those Avon Lake Ford jobs appears to belong to him. In 2011, Cleveland.com reported, the Ohio governor negotiated with Ford for the jobs and secured $15 million in tax breaks for the automaker over 15 years, to entice Ford into keeping the jobs in Avon Lake.

Carrier
http://www.snopes.com/carrier-jobs-t...te-trump-deal/
Less than 1,000 jobs saved.

Meeting with Car Makers
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...se-jobs-2017-1

In November, Trump took credit for Ford keeping a manufacturing plant in the US instead of moving it to Mexico. Ford, however, said it had never been planning to move the plant itself; it had considered shifting production of one of its vehicles from its Louisville plant to Mexico, a shift the company said wouldn't have resulted in job cuts at the Louisville facility.

GM said in late January that it will invest $1 billion in its US operations, which will bring 450 jobs back from Mexico to the US. In November, however, GM laid off a total of 2,000 hourly workers at two US plants.

I love this quote the best:

Some automakers have already made moves independently of Trump to keep manufacturing in the US.

In early January, Ford announced plans to put $700 million into its Flat Rock Assembly Plant in Michigan as part of a five-year, $4.5 billion investment in electric and autonomous vehicles. The Flat Rock plant is expected to grow by 700 employees as a result. Fields said the investment was not a result of a deal made with Trump but did show a vote of confidence in Trump's pro-business policies.

Chrysler
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/09/news...ico/index.html

Trump tweeted about the move, saying "It's finally happening." But Marchionne said Monday that the strategy had nothing to do with Trump or his trade policies.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by MM78

You seem to be giving Trump way too much credit for all these Companies bringing back manufacturing to the USA....As far as Carrier that's the only company Trump had his hands into. As far as Ford, GM, Chrysler here is what I have found so far.

I do enjoy how you somehow have correlated Trump to Companies moving back to the USA, you think these companies come up with these decisions on the fly? pfff.

Show me where any of the Companies you mentioned specifically say that Trump had anything to do with their moves back to the USA other than Carrier, I would love to read your sources.

Tens of Thousands of Jobs? You must be taking classes from Kellyanne Conway.

Lets examine some of these so called Trump Victories or Deals you speak of, shall we?

General Motors
http://www.fool.com/investing/2017/0...new-trend.aspx

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/01/03...general-motors


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gener...ry?id=44831865


Ford
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/should-t...out-of-mexico/


Carrier
http://www.snopes.com/carrier-jobs-t...te-trump-deal/
Less than 1,000 jobs saved.

Meeting with Car Makers
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...se-jobs-2017-1



I love this quote the best:


Chrysler
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/09/news...ico/index.html

Ask & you shall receive, also cherry picking articles from "news"organizations that are clearly left wing, anti trump, anti republican are never going to credit him, he shames them for manufacturing outside of this country & they change there direction. Something Hillary or obama didn't (and wouldn't have) even focus on. They killed jobs with thier regulations & bragged about it.
Here are a few that specifically stated trump as being a big part of their decesions . Also all of these are from before Inauguration Day, also the CNN & MSNBC articles refuse to admit & even discount specific statements by those companies & there announcements just to discredit trumps accomplishments, His pen created 25,000 just today alone. 01/24/17. He's only been in office 2 work days. Much more to follow. The funny thing I don't get is the things he's doing & wants to do is exactly what most everyone, especially democrats have been calling for since I can remember. "Bring back manufacturing " "evil republicans allow American companies to move overseas " "look how capitalism took our jobs" . We finally get a guy who wants to Chang all that (and knows how to do it) & he is called a populist? A separatist? If he would have ran as a democrat , as he did before, CNN & leftist liberal media would love him. But I guess everyone just wants to route for Thier "team" rather than the good of the country,

http://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-to-create-more-than-100-000-full-time-jobs-in-u-s-1484233541


https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/wal-mart-to-create-10-000-u-s-jobs-in-nod-to-trump-1484649003


http://abc7chicago.com/news/gm-announces-$1b-factory-investment-new-jobs/1706401/



http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/aboutus/pressreleasesdetail.aspx?sd=1%2F6%2F2017&siteid=cb pr&sc_cmp1=cb_pr983_&id=pr983&ed=12%2F31%2F2017

[GreenBean]

Coming to a forum near you, a .... feast.

[MM78]

Lets pull some Quotes from these articles, shall we?

Originally Posted by jojo2012

http://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-to-create-more-than-100-000-full-time-jobs-in-u-s-1484233541

Keyword here is "contentious", do you know what that word means? look it up.

Amazon.com Inc. on Thursday said it plans to create more than 100,000 full-time jobs in the U.S. within the next 18 months, leveraging plans already in the works in part to patch up its contentious relationship with President-elect Donald Trump.

So bullying is the way to go?

Amazon’s announcement highlights a new reality for companies as Mr. Trump prepares to take office: His [Trump] public praising or shaming of corporations for their business decisions is pressuring them to stay in his good graces and to adjust their public-relations strategies.

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https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.c...ump-1484649003

From your Article:

The announcement is the latest in a string of public displays from companies looking to head off criticism from the Trump administration about U.S. job losses.

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http://abc7chicago.com/news/gm-announces-$1b-factory-investment-new-jobs/1706401/

From your Article:

"General Motors' announcement today is mostly theater to play in the news cycle created by President-elect Trump's tweets," said Michelle Krebs, an auto industry analyst for Kelley Blue Book. "These investments and hiring plans have long been in the works."

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http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/a...12%2F31%2F2017

Trump Administration’s Impact on Jobs
When asked for their opinion on how the Trump administration will impact hiring in 2017:
- 23 percent of employers said the new administration would increase jobs
- 27 anticipated no impact.
- 7% said they expect jobs to decrease
- 43 percent were undecided.

You really need to read your articles better.

[jojo2012]

Your only posting & mentioned the parts that serve your agenda. Of course they don't want to attribute everything to him, he had just called them out For sending jobs away, you call it being a bully, I say he's finally saying what most every citizen wants someone in his position to say.. The point is , under the alternative administration the articles wouldn't have been written at all or would have talked about jobs leaving the country instead of staying & even scrapping plans for Mexican plants & deciding to reinvest in America. Instead under this president, the jobs are staying, new jobs are created & even coming back home.

You can choose not to believe it, & I'm sure you will find every reason not to attribute it to him like mentioning the word "contentious" . Which means in this article, "if he really lowers tax" . He will.

I read many articles, ones I like & ones I don't like, I watch many news programs. Ones I like & ones I don't like. It's how I form an educated opinion. It's clear to see you are angry your "side" lost, well , I'm not on the side of any "team" I'm on the side of what's good for the citizens of the U.S.A. Most Americans are sick & tired of rooting for one side or the other, So we didn't, and we Won!