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Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 828145)

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This one is a juicy one....
House Republicans Just Voted To Allow Severely Mentally Ill People To Buy Guns

That's right, you ****ed in the head, no worry man.....you get a gun, maybe a Semi-Auto one, whatever you want....
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/...-buy-guns.html

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828188)

Keep believing facebook memes. Trust me it's not a good way to get an education.

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828188)

Keep believing facebook memes. Trust me it's not a good way to get an education.

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 828145)

This one is a juicy one....
House Republicans Just Voted To Allow Severely Mentally Ill People To Buy Guns

That's right, you ****ed in the head, no worry man.....you get a gun, maybe a Semi-Auto one, whatever you want....
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/...-buy-guns.html

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828193)

Again completely mis information,

the truth is under the Obama Administration, if you had a grandmother who was perfectly mentally stable but collecting Social Security money and asked to have say a daughter a friend or a son be on the list of people who can help her with financial information and have permission talk to Social Security for her were banned from owning guns.

Obama had people who asked or gave permission to a family friend remember to speak for them deemed mentally ill in order to take guns away from citizens.

. It has absolutely nothing to do with people who are mentally ill.

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 828192)

Here's the funny part, if you had hard facts that contradict my Memes, you would of already posted it, but you don't.

Lets start with the National Prayers Breakfast opening Remarks, is my Meme true or false, remember....there's actual video of Trumps Opening Remarks.

The Raid in Yemen, did a Seal not die? and true or false....did they NOT have enough intel and insufficient ground support but still went ahead with the operation?

The Trump Tracker Day 15, you can pick any of those in there and we can discuss them, players choice (you).

And as far as the House Republicans Voting To Allow Severely Mentally Ill People To Buy Guns, what say you? Did it not happen?

Oh one last thing, on your 227,000 jobs created....those actually still fall under Obama.

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 828127)

So Isis has a stronghold in Iran? Isis a radical Sunni terror organization sworn to eradicating Shiite Islam (the kind practiced in Iran - a Shiite Islamic state) has a stronghold in Iran - a country that is in absolute opposition to it as a result of the above fact? Do you even know that there are two opposing streams in Islam?
Before you start talking perhaps you should at least get the facts straight. That's exactly the problem with this new administration. The kind of fear and hate mongering going on these days have not been seen or heard in decades.
Perhaps instead of believing every word you hear from this administration or Fox news - or any news agency for that matter - you should investigate the matter yourself and educate yourself on matters you apparently know nothing about.

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 828190)

Right. Because your ignorance filled posts are so much better right?
Cant help but notice you did the 'trumpy' thing and completely ignored my post which pointed out exactly that fact about your last post.
nothing to say about it? or maybe you would like to offer us with some 'alternative facts'?
One more thing for you jojo2012. I would love to see you react to yotano211's post about your illustrious leader cancelling the Dodd-Frank regulations that were put into place to protect the 'little guy' from bankers and various 'fat cat' types who would put their own interest above that of their investors. Convince me how this regulation has YOUR best interest at heart (assuming your just s small investor and not a big banker of course). Or is this yet another topic you know nothing about and would maintain your stance that ignorance is bliss? sorry friend but in this case ignorance is just ignorance and will most certainly not result in bliss but in something very different I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 828190)

Right. Because your ignorance filled posts are so much better right?
Cant help but notice you did the 'trumpy' thing and completely ignored my post which pointed out exactly that fact about your last post.
nothing to say about it? or maybe you would like to offer us with some 'alternative facts'?
One more thing for you jojo2012. I would love to see you react to yotano211's post about your illustrious leader cancelling the Dodd-Frank regulations that were put into place to protect the 'little guy' from bankers and various 'fat cat' types who would put their own interest above that of their investors. Convince me how this regulation has YOUR best interest at heart (assuming your just s small investor and not a big banker of course). Or is this yet another topic you know nothing about and would maintain your stance that ignorance is bliss? sorry friend but in this case ignorance is just ignorance and will most certainly not result in bliss but in something very different I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 828207)

Right.
Youre the enlightened one, the educated one who knows so much about Isis (as demonstrated above) and all other matters. You read so many different articles and your knowledge is simply astounding. That was sarcasm in case you didn't get it.
Let me guess - you too believe global warming is a hoax right? cause you read so much about the topic.
Youre like a person with perfect eyesight who insists on walking around with his eyes shut stumbling into things.
I feel sad for you.

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 828213)

Global warming has been going on for billions of years?
Im sorry but - LOL!!!!
I guess humanity has nothing to do with it and gas emissions are just a myth.
And youre well read and informed?
Excuse me again but - DOUBLE LOL!!!
Just your comments on Isis and that last remark about global warming prove the opposite.
You think of yourself as intellectual but the truth is youre coming across as ignorant in many cases. In this respect youre hopeless and no amount of typing will change that. Youre just like any other zealot or fanatic out there believing theirs is the only truth and all others are wrong. Keep living in your fantasy of Trump greatness and lets see where that leads the country in the next four years. And mark my words - when the time comes for a reckoning of trump's failures he will have plenty of excuses and others to blame - cause Trump is perfect - or would you disagree with that assessment as well? Dont bother responding to that last question - we all know the answer already.

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828215)

Yay for our educational system!

Are you not aware there have been times in history where we have been covered in ice (known as ice ages) & periods of warmth? (Sometimes called tropical artic)
(It's true Google it)

How much of this is caused my humans is under debate. And i dont deny we attribute to it. But turning our backs on energy and allowing other countries that could care less about greenhouse gases and global warming to supply us with fuel is not the correct answer. can you not agree on that one?

I never claimed to be a "intellectual " those are your words.
Like I said get your news from multible sources, you'll be better informed.

You keep bringing up Isis are you an Authority? I'm not. But you refuse to acknowledge that these countries were picked by the Obama administration.

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 828230)

Told myself Im going to stop cause theres no arguing with a fanatic but your retarded comments about global warming just pushed me.
Are you even listening to yourself?
The fact more than 99% of the scientists in the world agree that global warming is a real threat to our continued existence on this planet and it is of our own making is undisputable. It is NOT under debate whatsoever. Spoken like a true Trump enthusiast. Only he could have said it better. There is no other truth. There is no other alternative fact.
And this part:

Are you high? This has nothing to do with fuel being supplied to the US and from your words it sounds like the US is turning its back on its role as a GLOBAL LEADER. Or would you rather someone else take up that mantle and leave the US as a second rate country that follows instead of leads - Im sure Russia would just LOVE that.
As for countries that supply the US with oil (not 'fuel' which is the end product and is manufactured in the US actually) - which ones are you referring to? which ones piss all over the environment? And which of the countries that signed the Paris accord piss on the environment and provide the US with oil?
Dude youre full of crap and you seriously need to just take a break and check your fact before spewing your garbage.
Also, stop preaching to me about getting the news from multiple sources. If theres one FACT that I am certain of it is that I read far more than you do and get my information from far more sources than you could possibly care to listen to or read. The more you write the more you prove just how ignorant and fanatic you are.
And for the record - I dont consider myself left wing or right wing. I consider myself a humanist - a believer in the power of humanity which right now is being held back by ignorance, extremists, tyrants and hate mongers. There are no 'races'. Theres only ONE race - the HUMAN race - and unfortunately the way things are going we're headed towards extinction because of petty little people of which Trump is first and foremost. I truly believe that president 'Pussy Grabber' has the potential to send us decades backwards if not outright be the end of us all.

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828215)

(It's true Google it)

Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed (Post 828240)

i must point out that using google people can find evidence to support whatever they want to support. if i want to believe that aliens are real and coming to take over the planet then most likely i can find "evidence" to support that claim somewhere via google...

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 828248)

And yet again - LOL!
Your responses are almost as childish as those of Trump himself. Completely ignoring what I wrote and just referring to me as a liberal left winger (which I assure you I am not - whatever the hell that even means).
And then in true Trump form ending your argument with words 'trust me'. Anyone who needs to write those words is shady as hell in my eyes.
No one is disputing the fact there was an Ice Age - before the industrial age and before greenhouse effects and before gas emissions.
That has NOTHING to do with what is happening now.
Right now it is humanity that is destroying this planet. You can check any number of sources and any number of science journals, articles or studies on the topic. That is a FACT. No disputing it. No way around it. No alternative truth beside it. IT IS A FACT.
And you can say what you want and lie to yourself as much as you want it will not change that simple FACT.
Then again someone like you probably believes that evolution is a hoax and that God created us all less than 6000 years ago so theres really no point in discussing it any further... keep on living in ignorance calling people who disagree with you left wing liberals. Id take being called that over being an extreme right wing nutjob any day.
If the world is left to people like Trump (and his supports - such as you) this planet is doomed. And that has nothing to do with any political agenda - that too is a FACT.

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 828251)

You denied climate change has anything to do with humanity. And you stated that ignoring it is the way to go.
Or did I miss something? If I did then by all means clarify it.
As for you not believing in God - Kudos. First sensible thing Ive heard from you.
And I want to ask you for your personal opinion - do you think that with Trump it the white house the world has become:
A. a safer more stable place. OR
B. a less stable and more dangerous place.
Just choose A or B please - I don't want to get into a whole argument and you're entitled to your opinion. I myself would select A in response to the question above. I'm just wondering what your response would be - without any populism involved.

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 828288)

This thread seriously needs to be closed. I would have never dreamed so many entrepreneurial self-employed individuals would be so liberal with their political views. I can understand opposing Trump. He's probably the most hated person in the country at the moment. For the life of me though I can't understand why any type of business owner would support and root for Democrats. Over the past 30 years the "Democratic" party in the USA has morphed into the "Communist" party, plain and simple. They're all about robbing the rich to prop up the poor.

For that reason I could never support a Democrat. I was disgusted when Bernie Sanders (A SELF-PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST) got as far as he did. He would have literally been thrown into a military prison had he preached his nonsense during the Cold War. I'm young enough to be considered a "millennial" but I paid enough attention in US History to understand the principles our country was founded on. It's insane how quickly the attitudes of younger people have shifted. Many seem to think Communism will be wonderful for the country because they won't have to work hard and they'll get paid $20 an hour for flipping burgers at Burger King. They are totally unable to comprehend the drastic damage to our economy such legislation would create, nearly overnight.

I know you guys and gals are going to keep on bickering. Totally understandable in a political discussion I suppose. I'm not trying to exacerbate any arguments but I wanted to share my perspective. If anyone feels the need to quote me with an argument, I doubt I'll be responding.

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828358)

You are absolutely correct. There is a reason they (democrats) are so worried about controlling the educational system & defiant against school choice & civics classes.

Because if students where given civics classes, and learned about Taxes, the value of the dollar & basic economics, they would NEVER vote for a democrat again!

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 828348)

Brother Phaz0rz, mad respect for you but in all actuality.....the rich have been getting richer and not poorer. The gap between the Rich and the rest (Middle Class, Poor) have actually been getting wider. Here's an excellent article:

U.S. tax system: Why do the rich just keep on getting richer?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/12/opinio...wealthy-taxes/

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828372)

Interesting read:
I wonder Why would anyone want to be on the poor side?? =}=}

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 828288)

For that reason I could never support a Democrat. I was disgusted when Bernie Sanders (A SELF-PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST) got as far as he did. He would have literally been thrown into a military prison had he preached his nonsense during the Cold War. I'm young enough to be considered a "millennial" but I paid enough attention in US History to understand the principles our country was founded on. It's insane how quickly the attitudes of younger people have shifted. Many seem to think Communism will be wonderful for the country because they won't have to work hard and they'll get paid $20 an hour for flipping burgers at Burger King. They are totally unable to comprehend the drastic damage to our economy such legislation would create, nearly overnight.

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 828288)

This thread seriously needs to be closed. I would have never dreamed so many entrepreneurial self-employed individuals would be so liberal with their political views. I can understand opposing Trump. He's probably the most hated person in the country at the moment. For the life of me though I can't understand why any type of business owner would support and root for Democrats. Over the past 30 years the "Democratic" party in the USA has morphed into the "Communist" party, plain and simple. They're all about robbing the rich to prop up the poor.

For that reason I could never support a Democrat. I was disgusted when Bernie Sanders (A SELF-PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST) got as far as he did. He would have literally been thrown into a military prison had he preached his nonsense during the Cold War. I'm young enough to be considered a "millennial" but I paid enough attention in US History to understand the principles our country was founded on. It's insane how quickly the attitudes of younger people have shifted. Many seem to think Communism will be wonderful for the country because they won't have to work hard and they'll get paid $20 an hour for flipping burgers at Burger King. They are totally unable to comprehend the drastic damage to our economy such legislation would create, nearly overnight.

I know you guys and gals are going to keep on bickering. Totally understandable in a political discussion I suppose. I'm not trying to exacerbate any arguments but I wanted to share my perspective. If anyone feels the need to quote me with an argument, I doubt I'll be responding.

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 828375)

As always you're right, take these so called Native Americans.......crying about the Buffalo being killed close to extinction.....sorry "Natives", could of been like the Settlers and made a sh*t-ton of money by killing these animals and selling the hides....then they had the audacity to bitch about being moved, sorry progress trumps everything....get it "Trump" haha.

Slaves, sorry....if you didn't want to be exploited you should of ran faster back in your Homeland, tough. Worst, they had be freed and stuff but those Plantation Owners did have a good run there, and were able to make a killing!

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828420)

Ummm, republicans freed the slaves and fought to end segregation. The democrats fought against the civil rights bill. They fought very hard with fire hoses, tear gas, burning crosses, lynchings etc.. After the democrats lost on being on the side of racism and would have never won another election they started giving hand outs & paying people to vote for them & somehow where able to convince uneducated voters that republicans had it in for them.

Of course, you would never learn these facts in the public schools.

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 828442)

Oh Jojo.......need we forget that it was the other way around back then....What you called Republicans are what we call now Democrats and Democrats back then are what are now Republicans, see....you obviously didn't learn anything in school either.

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828452)

Yea, that's completely un true. But the left has been successful at embedding that into some peoples brains.

Conservatives values remain a party that promotes encouragement , sucess, self reliability, smaller government, lower taxes, peace through strength, belief in the individual, family, freedom, Sancity & Dignity of human life.

Democrat values are big government, government control & regulations, tax & spend, common core, common good. They kill jobs, kill growth, they discourage individualism, encourage dependency, almost every American city they control has become a welfare state.
They literally tell you that YOU CAN'T succeed! That the stakes are against you, you've been treated unfair & you won't have sucess .

They have become a party of hundreds of different activists & extremists.

Get it? They NEED you to NEED them.

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 828420)

Ummm, republicans freed the slaves and fought to end segregation. The democrats fought against the civil rights bill. They fought very hard with fire hoses, tear gas, burning crosses, lynchings etc.. After the democrats lost on being on the side of racism and would have never won another election they started giving hand outs & paying people to vote for them & somehow where able to convince uneducated voters that republicans had it in for them.

Of course, you would never learn these facts in the public schools.