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Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 986838)
Forcing P-State makes a big difference? Always figured it would be dependent on how much over/under clock was set on the card.... i.e. wouldn't draw more power than needed by the clocks.
| Read the reddit post and do some googling. There is even a video on YouTube, but the YouTube guy doesn't really try and get good results.
The magic number is 0.65v with 1250mHz on core and 4500mHz on memory for power efficiency with 1070. But like I said you only get around 28-29MH/s
Then go up from there til you find the sweet spot. forget about +600 or what-ever... go by the mHz and every card will probably be different. |
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Originally Posted by nate
(Post 986866)
Read the reddit post and do some googling. There is even a video on YouTube, but the YouTube guy doesn't really try and get good results.
The magic number is 0.65v with 1250mHz on core and 4500mHz on memory for power efficiency with 1070. But like I said you only get around 28-29MH/s
Then go up from there til you find the sweet spot. forget about +600 or what-ever... go by the mHz and every card will probably be different.
| Learning :) |
| Sunspot144 | 03-17-2019 06:22 PM |
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From claymore miner page:
By default, low power states have low voltage, setting high GPU clock for low power states without increasing voltage can cause driver crash.
From the reddit page:
Despite disabling "force P2 state" after dropping my voltage down to a certain point, the cards would never reach P0 state. As soon as I dropped one of the cards down to 775000 it always showed P2, higher then that it would be P0, and if it was too low like I said above it would be P5. This was regardless of whether I was idle or mining. This leads me to think that the "force P2" settings doesn't matter because my cards never get to P0 because the voltage is too low but it does not negatively impact my hash rate.
P State's controlled by voltage (settings) automatically by card, doesn't really matter til you reach your overclock settings. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-17-2019 06:30 PM |
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| Sunspot144 | 03-17-2019 07:17 PM |
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Guess what I'm getting at is yer P State 8 may not matter if yer optimal hash has a core/mem clock which requires a voltage that would be in P State 8. Since it's a dedicated miner card could be manufactured to be like that. Maybe. :)
AFAIK Nvidia cards can't be undervolted beyond a certain point.
AMD cards way more flexible in that regard. |
Re: Let me find out aspkin deleted the cryptocurrency section...
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Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 986895)
Guess what I'm getting at is yer P State 8 may not matter if yer optimal hash has a core/mem clock which requires a voltage that would be in P State 8. Since it's a dedicated miner card could be manufactured to be like that. Maybe. :)
| Perfect example. P104 wouldnt work with Nvidia Inspector cuz of block placed by Nvidia so I had to use MSI AB.By default the card was stuck in P-State 8 and I was able to get 41MH/s @ 125w...
I hacked the driver. Got Nvidia Profile Inspector and Nvidia Inspector to work and forced the card in P-State 0. I was able to get 41MH/s at 118w.
My Zotac 1070 AMP Extremes I was getting 33MH/s @ 125w just with over clock and reducing power to 50% (best settings I could find) https://i.ibb.co/281VpmZ/Capture1.png https://i.ibb.co/Pr7rrZX/Capture3.png
I forced the cards into P-State 0 with Nvidia Profile Inspector https://i.ibb.co/ZKXf9S3/Capture-1.png
Increased Power to 100% while reducing Voltage to 0.685v then played with core and mem OC with Nvidia Inspector until I got 33MH/s @ <100w (like 96-98w) https://i.ibb.co/KXGZ6MR/Capture4.png Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 986895)
AFAIK Nvidia cards can't be undervolted beyond a certain point.
AMD cards way more flexible in that regard.
| The only way to undervolt a Nvidia card AFAIK is to use Nvidia Inspector using a batch script.
just try 0 and 0 for gpu and mem clock first
then increase Code:
start C:\Users\miner\Desktop\nvidiaInspector\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:0,650000 -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,0 -setMemoryClockOffset:0,0,0 -setPowerTarget:0,100 -setTempTarget:0,0,80 -setFanSpeed:0,-1
try that first, open Nvidia Inspector,
then start increase the gpu and mem clocks by +10 core and +20 mem
You do know how to read that above right? and set it for your path?
the only way to change voltage is by using a bat file like the example i posted above. ( lockVoltagePoint:0,650000 ) sets voltage at 0.65v.... 700000 would be 0.70v ect...
core would be ( -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,0 ) to set a core of +20 would be -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,20 ect. but you can play with the setting 1st using Nvidia inspector's gui once you set the voltage with the bat file to find the right setting for the rest of the batch script. thats why i set them to 0 in the example. |
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here is an my batch file for my 9 Zotac 1070 AMP Extremes. They use a lot more power than a regular single 8-pin 1070 tho so you probably will get alot lower watts than 98 @ 0.685v. Code:
@echo off
echo NvidiaInspector will enable Over Clock in 30 seconds...
timeout /t 30
start C:\Users\Miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:0,685000 -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,60 -setMemoryClockOffset:0,0,600 -setPowerTarget:0,100 -setTempTarget:0,0,80 -setFanSpeed:0,-1
start C:\Users\Miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:1,685000 -setBaseClockOffset:1,0,60 -setMemoryClockOffset:1,0,600 -setPowerTarget:1,100 -setTempTarget:1,0,80 -setFanSpeed:1,-1
start C:\Users\Miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:2,685000 -setBaseClockOffset:2,0,70 -setMemoryClockOffset:2,0,600 -setPowerTarget:2,100 -setTempTarget:2,0,80 -setFanSpeed:2,-1
start C:\Users\Miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:3,700000 -setBaseClockOffset:3,0,20 -setMemoryClockOffset:3,0,400 -setPowerTarget:3,100 -setTempTarget:3,0,80 -setFanSpeed:3,-1
start C:\Users\Miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:4,685000 -setBaseClockOffset:4,0,80 -setMemoryClockOffset:4,0,600 -setPowerTarget:4,100 -setTempTarget:4,0,80 -setFanSpeed:4,-1
start C:\Users\miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:5,685000 -setBaseClockOffset:5,0,60 -setMemoryClockOffset:5,0,600 -setPowerTarget:5,100 -setTempTarget:5,0,80 -setFanSpeed:5,-1
start C:\Users\Miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:6,750000 -setBaseClockOffset:6,0,-60 -setMemoryClockOffset:6,0,580 -setPowerTarget:6,100 -setTempTarget:6,0,80 -setFanSpeed:6,-1
start C:\Users\Miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:7,685000 -setBaseClockOffset:7,0,80 -setMemoryClockOffset:7,0,400 -setPowerTarget:7,100 -setTempTarget:7,0,80 -setFanSpeed:7,-1
start C:\Users\Miner01\Desktop\nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:8,700000 -setBaseClockOffset:8,0,60 -setMemoryClockOffset:8,0,600 -setPowerTarget:8,100 -setTempTarget:8,0,80 -setFanSpeed:8,-1
FYI: Single 8-pin 1070's like EVGA SC's are better cards than dual 8-pin for ETH when undervolting. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-17-2019 09:06 PM |
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Hmm.. 33mh @ 98w in P0. Did you experiment further?
Thinking 1070/ti may get capped at 32/33, everybody seems to claim 32 on their 1070s ha.
Going under about 55% TDP the EVGA's started to get real unstable, even playing with different clocks while trying to maintain 32mh.
That's awesome it worked for the dedicated cards locked in P8. Definitely a worthwhile venture hacking those. No body I've seen knew how to undervolt Nvidia beyond manufacturer restrictions. |
Re: Let me find out aspkin deleted the cryptocurrency section...
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Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 986908)
Hmm.. 33mh @ 98w in P0. Did you experiment further?
Thinking 1070/ti may get capped at 32/33, everybody seems to claim 32 on their 1070s ha.
That's awesome it worked for the dedicated cards locked in P8. Definitely a worthwhile venture hacking those.
| Zotac AMP Extremes are different than all other 1070's... they are closer to a 1070Ti but use more power. they can get up to 34MH/s
Regular 1070's get 31-32MH/s |
| Sunspot144 | 03-17-2019 09:22 PM |
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Got more cards than my setup. Saving 10w per card is like having 1 less lol. |
Re: Let me find out aspkin deleted the cryptocurrency section...
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Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 986908)
No body I've seen knew how to undervolt Nvidia beyond manufacturer restrictions.
| Well, now you know how to.
Using Nvidia Profile Inspector I knocked 25 watts off my Zotac AMP Extremes x9... Thats 225 watts.
Same goes for my zotac 1070ti's... thats 500watts total between 18 cards.
As it is ATM 3x used 1070's ($200) cost the same as the New RadonVII and get the same hashrate while using a **** hair less power.
Now if AMD can fix the driver that might change... Have to wait and see. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-18-2019 12:27 AM |
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Yea... still think they make good radiators that make a little extra money, fun to optimize cards though :laugh: |
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Is mining still profitable? With the flux down in currency value. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-19-2019 11:24 PM |
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It's so minimal it's almost not worth it. Longer ya mine with older cards lower the resale value drops too. Kept my finished basement warm all winter without having to run heating oil so there's that...
BTC, ETH, XMR, cryptos in general, even POTCOIN are looking to be slowly climbing back up.. may be a good time. |
| dan_ebay | 03-20-2019 07:27 AM |
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all the pro traders stopped posted, what happened? |
| meloncoly | 03-20-2019 07:37 AM |
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Is mining still profitable with UK energy prices? |
| Sunspot144 | 03-20-2019 07:59 AM |
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Whattomine . com is a decent calculator. Not 100% accurate.
Optimal card performance averages to input:
1070/ti = 90 watts @ 32mh
Vega 56/64 = 200 watts @ 1100 h
The hardforks that are routinely released increase the mining algorithm difficulty and really drive the rewards down... |
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I pay 0.11 cents per KWH and I'm still making money, there was only two days where I was mining at a loss when ETH was @ $80. Now.... the amount Im profiting after power cost is only pocket change, but it's still a profit.
You also have to look at the fact there are half as many people still mining and Im making >2x the amount of ETH I was making last year.
So if ETH gets back up to all time high price, $1,400... I will have been making around $4,000 a month profit after subtracting electric cost for all the time I've been mining at this difficulty and network hashrate.
When I started this I looked at it as a 5 year investment. Not a get rich quick venture. I've held every coin I've mined since 2017. I either still have a few years to go or I'm dumping if we break ATH's again. You can never go wrong selling at a ATH price... |
| dan_ebay | 03-22-2019 05:54 AM |
Re: Let me find out aspkin deleted the cryptocurrency section...
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Originally Posted by nate
(Post 987949)
So if ETH gets back up to all time high price, $1,400... I will have been making around $4,000 a month profit after subtracting electric cost for all the time I've been mining at this difficulty and network hashrate.
When I started this I looked at it as a 5 year investment. Not a get rich quick venture. I've held every coin I've mined since 2017. I either still have a few years to go or I'm dumping if we break ATH's again. You can never go wrong selling at a ATH price...
| It's nonsense when people start saying this, only the profit you make in $ terms in relevant, otherwise you could just buy the coins and not bother mining. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-22-2019 07:37 AM |
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ROI may as well be 30 years right now :)
Node hosting is another possibility.
One guy I follow switched to it as an alternative to mining since it makes some more. He's kinda bat$hit crazy though with his $1100+ electric bill. |
Re: Let me find out aspkin deleted the cryptocurrency section...
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Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 987965)
ROI may as well be 30 years right now :)
Node hosting is another possibility.
One guy I follow switched to it as an alternative to mining since it makes some more. He's kinda bat$hit crazy though with his $1100+ electric bill.
| Free electricity in apartment building though... |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-22-2019 06:34 PM |
Re: Let me find out aspkin deleted the cryptocurrency section...
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 986694)
Who was that expert again...empirestate right?
| Pretty sure he just had to kill himself over all this. |
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