Corona Virus

[ukjay]

I bet you are life of the party at party's.

[walkingupwards]

This is a short-term crisis that will end as soon as targets on a hit-list are completely done with.

[prodigyace]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

This is a short-term crisis that will end as soon as targets on a hit-list are completely done with.

Seems like a possibility, but we won't know for sure

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

This is a short-term crisis that will end as soon as targets on a hit-list are completely done with.

Hopefully that's the case.

Because i'm sitting here legitimately worried after getting the normal flu followed by bronchitis earlier this year. Can't handle round two. Not a fan of coughing up blood.

[walkingupwards]

Trump is showing signs of shortness of breath, Trudeau is self-isolating after his wife tested positive and Bolsonaro has been targeted as well.

Who's next? Putin and Netanyahu?


Containing a virus that is four times more transmissible than the usual flu is impossible, the best defense would be complete lockdown of cities (China-wise) or full blown outbreak to help reach the level of herd immunity (which is a better option in my opinion).


Trump is a prisoner of the American government that is compromised with covert agents from top to bottom, the man is clearly sick and being given bad advice.

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

Trump is showing signs of shortness of breath

Just finished watching his speech and didn't notice it.

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

Containing a virus that is four times more transmissible than the usual flu is impossible

No it's not.

[ebaystealth1974]

Trump declares National emergency

[walkingupwards]

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

Trump declares National emergency

Why though? I thought COVID-19 was a joke and not something serious

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

Why though? I thought COVID-19 was a joke and not something serious

YOU were originally acting like everyone on earth was going to die from it. THAT'S what I was downplaying.

[ukjay]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

..and you wouldn't look stupid saying that if you'd cared to take the time to familiarise yourself with our governments approach.

I've taken the trouble to get a couple of links for you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51857856

https://www.ft.com/content/38a81588-...3-fe4680ea68b5

And i thought you said you don't care about people passing away from this.I think you do care MR I AM.

[james13v]

Originally Posted by ukjay

And i thought you said you don't care about people passing away from this.I think you do care MR I AM.

20,000 kids die every single day, of starvation. only so much energy a person can put towards caring about more strangers dying.

[kinsey]

Originally Posted by james13v

Umm, just FYI, but kids barely at risk. Less than 1% were age 9 or younger. They aren't getting sick. and when they do, it's barely a cold, if they even have any symptoms at all. Many have no symptoms. If you didn't do this for the yearly flu, that's it's kinda ridiculous you're doing it now, for something less likely to happen, AND less likely do have an effect if it does happen.

My post was a few days ago. Much more info out there now. Kids may not be affected, but still pass it on to others. We have some people around with compromised immune systems.

[Sunspot144]

https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance...searchresult=1

103 samples compared to bat SARS-related coronavirus SARSr-CoV; RaTG13 and pangolin SARSr-CoV.


The SARS-CoV-2 epidemic started in late December 2019 in Wuhan, China, and has since impacted a large portion of China and raised major global concern. Herein, we investigated the extent of molecular divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and other related coronaviruses. Although we found only 4% variability in genomic nucleotides between SARS-CoV-2 and a bat SARS-related coronavirus (SARSr-CoV; RaTG13), the difference at neutral sites was 17%, suggesting the divergence between the two viruses is much larger than previously estimated.

Our results suggest that the development of new variations in functional sites in the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike seen in SARS-CoV-2 and viruses from pangolin SARSr-CoVs are likely caused by mutations and natural selection besides recombination.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w

The RBD is a crucial part of coronaviruses, which allows them to latch on to and enter a cell. Even a 99% similarity between the RBDs of the two viruses is not necessarily enough to link them, says Linfa Wang, a virologist at Duke–National University of Singapore Medical School who was part of the team that found the origin of the SARS virus.

The genetic similarity should be higher than reported in these studies before the host can be identified, says Arinjay Banerjee, who studies coronaviruses at McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada. He notes that the SARS virus shared 99.8% of its genome with a civet coronavirus, which is why civets were considered the source. If pangolins are the origin of the current outbreak, says Banerjee, it is not the pangolins in these studies.

[sax4]

French president Macron must be very careful with his milf-wife, she's in the high risk category.

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by sunspot144

https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance...searchresult=1

103 samples compared to bat sars-related coronavirus sarsr-cov; ratg13 and pangolin sarsr-cov.


The sars-cov-2 epidemic started in late december 2019 in wuhan, china, and has since impacted a large portion of china and raised major global concern. Herein, we investigated the extent of molecular divergence between sars-cov-2 and other related coronaviruses. Although we found only 4% variability in genomic nucleotides between sars-cov-2 and a bat sars-related coronavirus (sarsr-cov; ratg13), the difference at neutral sites was 17%, suggesting the divergence between the two viruses is much larger than previously estimated.

Our results suggest that the development of new variations in functional sites in the receptor-binding domain (rbd) of the spike seen in sars-cov-2 and viruses from pangolin sarsr-covs are likely caused by mutations and natural selection besides recombination.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w

the rbd is a crucial part of coronaviruses, which allows them to latch on to and enter a cell. Even a 99% similarity between the rbds of the two viruses is not necessarily enough to link them, says linfa wang, a virologist at duke–national university of singapore medical school who was part of the team that found the origin of the sars virus.

The genetic similarity should be higher than reported in these studies before the host can be identified, says arinjay banerjee, who studies coronaviruses at mcmaster university in hamilton, canada. He notes that the sars virus shared 99.8% of its genome with a civet coronavirus, which is why civets were considered the source. If pangolins are the origin of the current outbreak, says banerjee, it is not the pangolins in these studies.

tldr???????????

[Sunspot144]

It's most likely an animal source. The difference between COVID's RBD and the bat/pangolin SARS' RBD showed it's most likely from mutation and natural selection. More evidence is when it said "the difference at neutral sites was 17%, suggesting the divergence between the two viruses is much larger than previously estimated." Don't see it being from a lab unfortunately.

[Sunspot144]

If I had to guess SARS came from bats that infected civets that infected people.

wikipedia page

However, research into the origin of the 2002–2004 SARS outbreak has resulted in the discovery of many SARS-like bat coronaviruses

WHO and researchers probably start with bats then find the animal with 99%+ RBD match.

Considering how many different coronaviruses there are I doubt this needed to be developed in a lab.

[james13v]

Originally Posted by kinsey

My post was a few days ago. Much more info out there now. Kids may not be affected, but still pass it on to others. We have some people around with compromised immune systems.

And yet your post was before there was much more info out there. The flu kills people that are compromised and old too. Since this whole COVID thing started, 10-20K people have died from the flu. But that wasn't enough for you to homeschool?

[james13v]

Originally Posted by sax4

French president Macron must be very careful with his milf-wife, she's in the high risk category.

You mean his beard.

[Sunspot144]

Originally Posted by agent006140

there are pangolins in Africa and SE Asia.

Yea, doesn't look to be them. 85-92% DNA match. SARS source is not known. COVID19 may never be found either.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Sunspot144

Yea, doesn't look to be them. 85-92% DNA match. SARS source is not known. COVID19 may never be found either.

agent seems to be on top of all of this so just wait for info...

[phaz0rz]

UPDATE : 3/13/20 - cases outside of China



Worst day yet by far. 16200 cases reported in a single day, beating China's worst outbreak day by 1100. My state declared a state of emergency and then an hour later Trump declared a federal state of emergency. I'm coughing a bit this morning.



South Korea - 8086 (+217)
Iran - 12729 (+2654)
Italy - 17660 (+2547)
USA - 2174 (+473)