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Be careful bigboss :thumb:

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Wearing a mask is only really beneficial if you already have the virus as it helps to prevent you coughing up a lung on healthy folk.

It's about as useful as stockpiling guns and toilet roll.

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Few friends and I had to walk by the drive thru window hah

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Because they want to be on the extreme winning side of any agreement, and just about always have been. They want to make money. They want to expand. If they could, they'd eliminate all competition. That's working together, like The Scorpion and the Frog

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You do know, that viruses are very light, and can float in the air? With less humidity, it's even worse. If someone sneezes in a room, it can circulate into everyone's eye. Theoretically.

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LOL, they're pushing this so there isn't a shortage of masks. It doesn't make any sense at all. How does it make sense that masks will stop the virus from exiting people who are already sick, but they won't stop the virus from entering people who aren't already sick?

Masks protect people who aren't already sick by preventing the virus from entering their lungs when they breath. Just like it traps the viral cells from exiting the mask of somebody who is sick.

:doh:

Stockpiling guns and ammo isn't useless either as they'd go a long way in a mob/looting situation. You just aren't allowed to do it. :P

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Because it will prevent the people from exhaling all the pathogens into the air and all over objects. This isn't an airborne virus. It might last in the air to some extent, but it's not airborne. So I can understand the idea behind it stopping sick people from contaminating everything. And, as mentioned, you CAN get it in your eyes. So as long as the sick people aren't sneezing everywhere or having it on their hands, you shouldn't be able to contract it from them. But you wearing a mask, doesn't mean you won't contract it from someone. Sure it's an ADDED level of safety. But it's not safety in itself.

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I still think it's naive to say it has no benefit at all. The one country that claims to have covid under control (China) had everybody wearing masks.

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LOL that's rich coming from an Englishmen. I'm sure you'd have said the same thing a few 100 years ago.

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LOL but Chinese people were wearing masks even before this virus. And I HIGHLY doubt they have it under control. I don't believe a single damn word that comes from that corrupt governments mouth, and I sure as hell don't believe a word that comes out of it's peoples mouths either. Being honest there has a tendency to get you arrested and or tragically die.

And I never said it has no benefit. But if there is a limited supply, I'd MUCH rather it go to the people that are sick, or might be sick, more likely to get sick, or even more likely to die from it. If there was enough to go around? Sure, masks for all!

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My supplier has been sending me packs of masks with every shipment but I'm kind of afraid to open them and wear them. :/

I've been figuring it's more of a psychological thing, honestly. China is pumping out hundreds of thousands of masks per day now. There probably is enough to go around. But government officials would like to limit how many people are walking around in public with masks on, so they can continue acting like it's no big deal and everything is under control.

EDIT: Also, China claims that covid is in fact capable of aerosol transmission, which would mean it is airborne. https://archive.is/AOka6

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hundreds of thousands a day isn't exactly all that much. Even if they pumped out millions per day, it would take months just to mask all of China.

And that last part is a bit conspiratorial. I'm not saying it's out of question... But, I dunno....

Some people are also saying, we don't want to test people, because there will be so many people testing positive without any issues, that social media will be flooded with people saying " hey! It's not so bad!".

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I'm not English.

And as for guns I've got a cabinet full of them. I just don't feel the inclination to go out and buy more.

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The weight of the evidence suggests that the new coronavirus can exist as an aerosol — a physics term meaning a liquid or solid (the virus) suspended in a gas (like air) — only under very limited conditions, and that this transmission route is not driving the pandemic. But “limited” conditions does not mean “no” conditions, underlining the need for health care workers to have high levels of personal protection, especially when doing procedures such as intubation that have the greatest chance of creating coronavirus aerosols. “I think the answer will be, aerosolization occurs rarely but not never,” said microbiologist and physician Stanley Perlman of the University of Iowa. “You have to distinguish between what’s possible and what’s actually happening.”

And for something to be aerosol, it has to remain in the area for a couple hours. Like fog. There are strong reasons to doubt the new virus has anything close to that capability. If it did, we'd be seeing much greater levels of transmissions.

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I think it had a little more to do with the French and Spanish but lets that is an argument for another day.

We can buy guns over here - its just culturally very different and not something may people do. Its a large part of many Americans national identity, so the more guns someone has the more American and patriotic they are. Its also a way to prove a point to the liberals that want to reduce the right to bare arms and a very effective way of further expressing an individuals independence from state. Added to that is makes people feel safe, a lot like wearing a mask does, regardless of any actual benefit and that effect in itself leads to more calm and level thinking which actually does have a real benefit. Before there is hate..... just to make clear there is absolutely nothing wrong with buying guns if that is how people choose to express themselves and give themselves a sense of security. We have the same relationship with tea :)

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Watch your mouth...

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It definitely isn't going to hurt anything to wear one.

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They're currently making 200 million masks per day.

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I have left my winter home and Busting ass back to the least populated state in the nation. Already making plans to take a big step back and semi homestead. Wild world we live in!

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That's STILL not enough to even meet their local demand, let along global orders, and that's already with factories running at 110% capacity. And of that 200,000,000 only 600,000 are the types used by medical personnel. Guess which ones people were buying up? Now, there is a global shortage of the fabric used to make the masks. The machines to make it will take 6 months, and another month before they are ready to go. The price of everything involved, is also going up. The material now costs 10 times as much

Assuming the supply of fabric remained the same, it would take over a month to produce enough for everyone, to have just ONE.

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Just spoke with my brother. They're camped at Key West until the 25th, and is wondering if he should go back to WV or stay there on the Navy Base at Key West.

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I usually agree with most that you say, but I have to wonder about your math abilities with this post. lol

7 days gets every person in China a mask. And not every person in the world is going to want or need one.

Production has ramped up 20x since last month, don't be so naive to think it won't keep multiplying.

Regarding the rest of your post, looks like a few hints on what stocks to invest in. :)