Corona Virus

[rsot]

Originally Posted by agent006140

213 dead.9692 cases sofar

That's kind of chump change ....so to speak...

[phaz0rz]

You kill a bear with a gun.

I don't like all the discrimination going on because the chinese have different diets than Americans. A citizen in Wuhan would probably think we are disgusting for eating hotdogs.

I do agree it's way worse than what's being reported, for a number of reasons. China simply doesn't have the resources to deal with this adequately. I don't think any country would, with as rapid as the virus is spreading.

[rsot]

I have made a turkey stuffed with duck for thanksgiving back in the day...not triple though

[phaz0rz]

As of yesterday, China is warning citizens to "take care of" their pets or risk having them killed by the government, in an attempt to slow the spread of the virus.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ronavirus.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/108692...ill-dogs-pets/
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/.../#.XjWpH3ZOnIW

Scary stuff. Basically you either keep your pet inside 24/7 or risk having them euthanized by Winnie the Pooh's regime.

[aspkin]

Originally Posted by agent006140

Wenzhou ,a city 500 miles from Wuhan is now lockdown!
Get ready to feast on seafood-Norwegian salmon,Russian crabs,Australia lobsters,!
Chinese are not eating much seafood these days !

Good to see you looking on the bright side.

Personally in my life I see people stocking up on survival supplies (cleaning supplies, n95 masks, more food, etc). People are prepping.

And I also see a lot of naysayers say it's no big deal.

It seems split 50/50 right now.

[phaz0rz]

Friendly reminder that if you're going to prep, spend the few extra dollars for p100 masks. Go big or go.... to your grave.

[Skeezer13]

My Chinese suppliers claim that they will begin shipping on the 15th but I don't believe it to be the case. I imagine we are still several weeks out from items being able to be exported from China

[slokor]

Originally Posted by agent006140

With 132 deaths in China and new cases being reported around the world...

Amazing how fast these facts change now.
At last count the death toll stands at 304.
I have no doubt the final count will be a lot higher than SARS ever was.

[phaz0rz]

Some evidence that it's way worse than reported.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1224190054316244994

Also demonstrates how desperately China is working to censor this from the rest of the world. They know it would kill their economy if the real numbers leaked out.

[rsot]

This can be suspected phaz - good link though for a bit of clarity

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

The number of death still stands at 361 but more cases are reported.

There are dead people everywhere. You're only added to the official death toll if you're tested and confirmed to have the virus before you die. There's a shortage of test kits and many people with the virus have to be tested multiple times before testing positively. The vast majority of those dying are being labeled by CCP as "pneumonia" or "old age" deaths despite having the virus.

All those factors combined add up to something out of a horror movie. I guess I'll continue monitoring the situation while hoping I can restock my inventory soon.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

This cant be the worst time to have a virus with no vacine

On the contrary, Chinese New Year is definitely the worst time of year to have a non-vaccinated virus breakout. Most who work in Chinese cities go back to rural China to visit their family during CNY. Hence the spread. It's almost like this was engineered and was released immediately before CNY to make sure it would spread as much as possible. What are the chances of some naturally mutated virus just happening to release itself right before all of the biggest social gatherings in China? Probably 1 in a billion.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

We have a large Chinatown,restaurants and supermarkets are always crowded on weekends,I wonder how they are doing these days?
And what about the beauty parlors and nail salons?

They're probably doing fine since there are only like 3 confirmed cases in the USA. The US media isn't talking about coronavirus for a good reason (they want to avoid creating a panic).

I've been reading that Asian males are particularly susceptible to this virus, which would explain why it's spreading so rapidly in China while not spreading very fast in the rest of the world. There are science journal articles about it.. but I don't think it's enough to draw any conclusions yet.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

Asian males more susceptible?
could be those who dont eat well,have a weak immune system?

It's got to do with Asians naturally having a higher concentration of a specific enzyme in their lungs. I'll try to post some info for you a little later.

EDIT: here is one of the articles suggesting Asian males are more susceptible due to a higher concentration of ACE2 enzymes - https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...01.26.919985v1

[Pedroalva]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Some evidence that it's way worse than reported.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1224190054316244994

Also demonstrates how desperately China is working to censor this from the rest of the world. They know it would kill their economy if the real numbers leaked out.

Afraid there will be many other cases like this ,there are reported many infected and they do not have at moment enough hospital structure to treat all

[Etycoon]

My supplier inform me that the New Years holiday has been extended to the 9th of feb. They say voluntary medical teams have arrived and the situations under control. However bare in mind this is China whatever you hear in the media you can probably x10.

[Artline1986]

Wuhan Coronavirus Likely to Soon Be Declared a Pandemic, Scientists Warn

Scientists and disease experts say the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak could soon be declared a pandemic.

The World Health Organisation last week designated the coronavirus – whose scientific name is 2019-nCoV – a "public-health emergency of international concern."


Calling the virus a pandemic would take it to a new level, however, since that term refers to a more global outbreak.

The coronavirus is "very, very transmissible, and it almost certainly is going to be a pandemic," Anthony Fauci, the director of the US's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told The New York Times on Sunday.

Here are criteria for a virus to be labelled a pandemic:

The WHO defines a pandemic as "the worldwide spread of a new disease."
A pandemic disease spreads across "several countries or continents, usually affecting a large number of people," according to the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention.
A viral outbreak could be characterised as a pandemic if it is "markedly different from recently circulating strains" and if "humans have little or no immunity" to it, according to the UK's Health and Safety Executive.
A disease becomes a pandemic when it can infect many people over a large area, be transferred from person to person, and cause clinical illness, the HSE said.
An epidemic, by contrast, refers to a more localised or regional outbreak rather than a global one. That's what health agencies have so far considered the coronavirus outbreak to be.


The CDC says an epidemic is an "increase, often sudden, in the number of cases of a disease above what is normally expected in that population in that area."

Similarly, the WHO defines an epidemic as the "occurrence in a community or region of cases of an illness, specific health-related behaviour, or other health-related events clearly in excess of normal expectancy."

Thomas Frieden, a former CDC director, told The Times that it is "increasingly unlikely" that the coronavirus "can be contained."

He added: "It is therefore likely that it will spread, as flu and other organisms do, but we still don't know how far, wide, or deadly it will be."

Robert Webster, an infectious-disease expert at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, told The Associated Press on Sunday that "it sounds and looks as if it's going to be a very highly transmissible virus."

The Wuhan coronavirus has killed at least 362 people and infected more than 17,000 other people in more than 24 countries since the first cases were reported in December.

All but one of those deaths were in China; on Saturday, a man in the Philippines became the first to die of the virus outside China.

[slokor]

if anyone wants live stats on the advance of the coronavirus:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6
Updates every few minutes.

[mine]

How can they say the death rate is only 2% if the recovered numbers are only 666?

[slokor]

Its an ongoing tally. The numbers keep shifting and a the moment that's what 'estimate' it will be.

[rsot]

Lot of Chinese hiding of stats likely going on as well

[Pedroalva]

Originally Posted by agent006140

SOME may not know it is the corona virus,or they just dont want to know or lose their freedom if they go for medical treatment and what about their family,they will be shut in

How cant they know it is coronavirus ?they speak just of it .are the direct .they will looking for the closest hospital for even a small synthom and they will be very happy to loose their freedom to get shut in ,who want to dhie?