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MM78 01-07-2021 11:39 AM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 

slokor 01-20-2021 12:11 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Guess I win the bet.
Thank you mike75493245 for being a man of your word.

james13v 01-20-2021 12:19 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1135073)
So mike75493245 is THIS what you were hoping would somehow turn the election in Trump's way? Don't see it working.
Looking forward to getting my easy earned money in a couple of weeks. Thanks again for that.
On a side note - a real shame how the 'law and order' president incited this mob. Two more weeks and the orange clown is gone. Long overdue.

lol you're truly delusional. Incited this mob??? The way democrats have been doing for the past year, despite billions in damage and dozens murdered. despite senators being accosted in the senate building, and despite the supreme court being overrun. Yet THAT wasn't insurrection? But dozens of unarmed protestors getting into the senate is the end of democracy?

He told them to come protest peacefully, and then told them to go home when they got into the building. He denounced all the people that did it. Still waiting for democrats to do that even once, for the 100 times worse that's happened on their side.

It's pathetic how much TDS you've been infected with. Really. Just completely pathetic. You people are all a bunch of hypocrites.

Yeah trump was hoping this would turn the election around. He didn't realize just how insane democrats, and even republicans were. Shame on him for deluding himself into thinking this country was rational in anyway, or believed in fairness and justice.

james13v 01-20-2021 12:22 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
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Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1131483)
The interesting thing is, all these idiots were only claiming fraud when they were addressing the public. (Trump also, in the Texas case) But when they got inside the court room, they are on record saying that they are NOT alleging fraud. It's a very weird scenario.

And very wrong to keep americans riled up, when they themselves know they have no proof. And are admitting it in court. :(

Because fraud was not what they were in courts FOR. They were there for specific legal matters concerning election laws and how the elections were handled. Kinda ironic for you to call anyone an idiot, when you don't even understand how these things work.

slokor 01-20-2021 12:29 PM

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Youre right - someone here truly is pathetic.
A trumpist to the end eh james13v?
Get used to it - Trump just went buh bye. Its OVER.

walkingupwards 01-20-2021 01:30 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
I think Trump drove millions of voters away from him or at least incentivised millions of people to go out and vote against him. He should have abstained from using Twitter, but you know Trump is Trump!!

Hank 01-20-2021 02:47 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Trump many be gone but he has emboldened many right wing thinkers and activists.
When Sleepy Joe fails (or chooses not) to control the hard left then get out the popcorn and watch the fireworks.
I predict the next four years is going to be more controversial than the last four, lets see how it plays out.

slokor 01-20-2021 02:56 PM

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One thing Im pretty sure we wont see in the next 4 years is a mob attacking capitol hill.

Hank 01-20-2021 02:59 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1137502)
One thing Im pretty sure we wont see in the next 4 years is a mob attacking capitol hill.

Maybe not, I fear something far far worse.
Anyway, watch this space..... :pop2:

BlackLion 01-20-2021 03:27 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
You guys keep this up, and i'll lock the thread. Why can't we all get along, and watch Twilight zone?

yotano211 01-20-2021 04:11 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Like I said, I'm not worried about ex President Trump, I'm worried about the 48% of people that voted for him and the next 10 years of this country.
SSN taxes will have to be increased very soon to fix Social Security.

secret storm 01-22-2021 11:57 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pisports (Post 1124911)
Seriously trump is a hardcore old-times dictator.Just like MAO and Stalin.Full of selfish falsehoods and keep trying wipe people's head.I cant believe there are still 40% of American and most GOP members supporting this guy.The only way I can see what he will lead the country is a Hatred civil WAR.Hell.

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Originally Posted by Beautiful (Post 1124920)
I've had to follow politics for the last couple years cause of all of Trumps chaos, it sucks.

not a huge fan of Biden but at least I don't have to follow politics anymore :)

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Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 1126927)
LOL, I mean....yeah, I won. I was told to suck it up and accept the 2016 election results. I did, and we all moved on.

OMG...Most of you people in this thread either don't understand Economics or you take everything for granted that the brainwashing and lying media tells you hook line sinker.

If Trump wouldn't have won in 2016 the United States wouldn't have moved on it would have taken a tumbling down wind and collapsed harder than it ever has being way worse than what the great depression was and America might have even met its END.

unkown5454 01-23-2021 01:20 AM

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we are a forum built from capitalism, but so many here voted for the party that hates us. the party that wants to take everything you worked for and give it away for free. the party that supports the destruction of small business and anyone who makes more money than someone else. i don't understand.

GreenBean 01-23-2021 06:01 AM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 1131555)
Exactly. They wasted money and time with their crap.

Mind, the Orange Man never even paid his attorney, Juliano.$20,000 a day.

Such class. :pound::pound:

JamesNorth101 01-23-2021 06:28 AM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
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Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 1137968)
Mind, the Orange Man never even paid his attorney, Juliano.$20,000 a day.

Such class. :pound::pound:

:yar::yar: welcome back!

JamesNorth101 01-23-2021 06:29 AM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
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Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 1137935)
If Trump wouldn't have won in 2016 the United States wouldn't have moved on it would have taken a tumbling down wind and collapsed harder than it ever has being way worse than what the great depression was and America might have even met its END.

And who told you that?

Momento 01-23-2021 06:38 AM

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Now let's see if he follows in his m8's (Obama) footsteps, and wades into Africa with this size 12s

Beautiful 01-23-2021 01:14 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 1137935)
OMG...Most of you people in this thread either don't understand Economics or you take everything for granted that the brainwashing and lying media tells you hook line sinker.

If Trump wouldn't have won in 2016 the United States wouldn't have moved on it would have taken a tumbling down wind and collapsed harder than it ever has being way worse than what the great depression was and America might have even met its END.

If trump didn't win in 2016, we'd probably have 300000+ less deaths

But keep spreading misinformation, we might just need to start a free McMuffin giveaway

degsey69 01-23-2021 02:21 PM

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In the first couple of days President Biden achieved more than Trump in the same time.

He put 11,000 people out of work by shutting down the pipeline.

Stopped all deportations of illegal immigrants and ordered Texas ICE to release into the community all illegal immigrants who were not charged with a crime.

Great job Joe, that's showing the American citizens you care about their jobs, in those 2 actions you flooded the labor market with illegals and fired honest hard working Americans.

agent006140 01-23-2021 03:27 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
also no drilling on Federal land and raising minimum wages would cost more job loss,yesterday,900,000 more filed for jobless claims,released,slightly lower than prior week,
But president usually will do what he said he will in his campaign,so voters know they are coming-minimum wage is Federal $15,but more states will follow.

secret storm 01-23-2021 08:38 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1137984)
And who told you that?

Hillary Clinton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beautiful (Post 1138041)
If trump didn't win in 2016, we'd probably have 300000+ less deaths

But keep spreading misinformation, we might just need to start a free McMuffin giveaway

I'm not spreading misinformation, Your to incompetent and inept to look at truth and face the actual facts.

In 2016 Hillary Clinton ran against Donald Trump in case you didn't know or if you even know who she is ???

I'm going to guess probably not because you definitely don't know anything about her past:


Cattle Futures

Hillary from her earliest crimes has become the most oft-forgotten, even though she had her fingerprints on a number of cases of extremely shady business practices, including insider trading and bribery, in the late 1970s and the 1980s.

This would prove not to be an isolated incident, as Hillary herself eventually came under fire for a similar financial irregularity in the late 1970s. After trading in cattle futures contracts with a starting investment of just $1,000, she netted a return of almost $100,000 after just ten months before stopping her trading. Such a sky-high profit is extremely unlikely to happen naturally, and although a number of scenarios were proposed – including bribery and insider trading – Hillary faced no charges again.

Robert L. "Red" Bone ran the Springdale, AK financial services company REFCO allowed the trades and later, after investigation, had to pay the largest fine at the time in the exchanges history and was suspended for three years. Hillary Clinton said she was able to make the successful trading because she read the Wall Street Journal for research.


Chinagate

The Clinton-Gore campaign in 1996 allegedly took bribes from Chinese banks and their government to help their dwindling poll numbers. The Chinese embassy in D.C. helped siphon funds into the DNC. Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown (who was killed in a plane crash), and at Hillary Clinton instruction reportedly sold seats on department trade missions to China. Joint congressional hearings were canceled after Democrats threatened to bring up Republican campaign issues and then Monica Lewinsky actually saved this scandal from media attention.


Whitewater Scandal

Hillary Clinton and her husband were partners in a shady real estate development firm called Whitewater Development Corp in Arkansas. Accusations of impropriety against the Clintons and others soon surfaced, regarding improper campaign contributions, political and financial favors, and tax benefits. Clinton’s friends and majority owners, James and Susan McDougal were jailed for fraud, Clinton's successor, Governor Jim Tucker, was jailed for fraud along with municipal judges David Hale and Eugene Fitzhugh put in prison also who worked with James McDougal, but Hillary Clinton walked away unscathed, having apparently done nothing wrong.


Ponzi Scheme and Political Favor Scandal

Norman Yung Yuen Hsu was a convicted pyramid investment promoter, and major Democratic donor. He slept in the same bed with Hillary and contributed an undisclosed amount to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign. He posed together in pictures with her. Shortly after he was sentenced to more than 24 years in prison in 2009 by a judge who accused him of funding his fraud by manipulating the political process in a way that 'strikes at the very core of our democracy.”


Drug Dealer Donor Scandal

Convicted drug trafficker Jorge Cabrera apparently made such a big donation to the Clinton’s campaign that he was invited to the White house without Secret Service present and posed in a picture together with Hillary Clinton also he was later sentenced as well to 15 years in Prison.


Travelgate Scandal

Catherine Cornelius, a 25-year-old cousin of Bill's was allegedly promised the position of director of the travel office. Hillary Clinton then (indirectly) fired seven employees from the United States travel office and replaced them with associates from Arkansas. Records were either nowhere to be found or incorrectly filed. And, there's a reported attempt to give a White House airline contract to friend. Hillary had the FBI investigate Billy Dale, the head of the travel office, ruining his career who was found to do nothing wrong, but was then audited by the IRS for three years after.

Billy Dale and his family went through hell thanks to Hillary Clinton, Attorney General Janet Reno, the FBI and the IRS," Irvine wrote. "Hillary's greatest crime was not perjury, it was trying to send an innocent man to prison to justify having fired him and his staff without cause."

“A memorandum by a former Presidential aide depicts Hillary Rodham Clinton as the central figure in the 1993 travel office dismissals, a politically damaging episode that the aide said had resulted from a climate of fear in which officials did not dare question Mrs. Clinton's wishes," wrote the NYT in 1996.


Russian Pay-to-Play Schemes

Projection has become a favorite distraction technique for the Left, especially with the media serving as their mouthpiece. While baseless allegations of Russian “collusion” have been relentlessly thrown at President Trump and his Administration, the real instances of collusion between a high-ranking U.S. official and Russian forces come from the other side of the political aisle.

For a number of years, the Clinton Foundation – a supposedly “charitable” organization – served as the front for many of the biggest payments to Hillary Clinton by those seeking influence, both domestic and international.

But the most glaring example of such a pay-to-play scheme involving the Clintons and a foreign actor is the Uranium One case. Uranium One is a Canadian uranium mining company that first acquired another Canadian mining company, UrAsia Energy, before Uranium One was subsequently acquired by the Russian state-owned corporation Rosatom.

It was eventually revealed – by The New York Times, of all sources – that UrAsia’s owner Frank Giustra had donated as much as $145 million to the Clinton Foundation just two years before selling his company to Uranium One for $3.7 billion. Then it was revealed that the chairman of Uranium One, Ian Telfer, had also made a donation of over $2 million to the Clinton Foundation before the company’s acquisition by Rosatom.

Shortly after the successful acquisition of Uranium One – which took place during Obama’s first term, while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State – Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 by the Russian bank Renaissance Capital to give a speech in Moscow. Not so coincidentally, this took place just a few months after Obama signed the “New START” nuclear treaty with Russia, an initiative that was spearheaded by Secretary Hillary Clinton. Although the treaty proved to be a disaster that most likely will not be extended, Hillary Clinton did walk away with a significantly fuller bank account.

What this all boils down to is a clear-cut case of the Hillary Clinton organizing a massive international deal that saw a significant amount of uranium – a key natural resource that is fundamental to national security and American dominance on the world stage – signed away to Russia. Hillary Clinton bargained with nuclear capabilities and completely sold America down the river, just so they could make millions. This can only be described as “collusion” and “pay-to-play.”


Emails and the Espionage Act

This is perhaps the most significant of Hillary’s scandals, not only because of its central role in her 2016 loss, but because of the sheer hypocrisy that was highlighted as a result.

Using an unsecured private email server for government use, of course, is a crime in and of itself. But in true Nixonian fashion, Hillary Clinton took it a step further by covering up the underlying crime. She initially refused to turn over the server in question, even as she used the server’s eventual breach by hackers as supposed “proof” of Russian interference. When the server was finally handed over to the FBI, it was done only after more than 30,000 emails had been erased, with Hillary Clinton claiming – without evidence – that all of the deleted emails were “personal.”

When further questioned about deliberately wiping the server, Hillary Clinton gave a response that feigned ignorance but reeked of arrogance, sarcastically asking “What, like with a cloth or something?” It’s not hard to imagine that if President Trump had made a similar statement, the media would have an absolute field day with such a response, and use it to call into question his intelligence, integrity, or even his ability to hold the office. But Hillary Clinton, as always, gets a free pass from the media.

This deliberate obstruction of justice, and subsequent destruction of evidence, was the same crime for which Richard Nixon was ultimately driven out of office. But Hillary Clinton’s mass deletion of evidence was on a vastly larger scale than the mere 18 minutes of Watergate tapes that Nixon erased, and the bungled burglary he tried to hide. And furthermore, with a wide variety of matters discussed and shared on Hillary Clinton’s private server, it’s clear that far greater national security risks were taken by Hillary Clinton than by Nixon, who only sought to cover up a single crime that was relatively petty by comparison.

In both cases, the cover-up far exceeded the original crime. But while both of them eventually did face consequences, Nixon at least did so on his own terms and eventually admitted to his own wrongdoing, resigning the office in atonement. Clinton actively sought to take the highest office in the land even despite her crimes; her comeuppance delivered by the American people at the ballot box, in perhaps the greatest act of non-judicial justice ever administered in modern American history.


Benghazi

By far the most serious crime that Hillary Clinton ever committed is the one that produced an actual body count. As expansive, egregious, and unpunished as her other crimes may be, nothing compares to the scandal in which then-Secretary of State Clinton took a series of decisions that directly led to the deaths of four brave Americans, only for her to then lie about the circumstances of her deaths and cover up her own involvement in them.

Ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, made numerous requests for security at the U.S. mission in Benghazi to be increased, as he feared for his own safety and the safety of the other Americans present at the compound. All of these requests were denied time and again by Secretary Clinton’s State Department, a fact that even the left-wing “fact-checking” website PolitiFact has admitted to be true.

This failure to provide more security left the compound all the more unprepared when the terrorist group Ansar al-Sharia launched its fatal attack on September 11, 2012, killing Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans: Information Officer Sean Smith, and CIA operatives Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, who bravely fought to defend their fellow Americans against overwhelming odds.

But in true, Hillary Clinton just couldn’t stop with the original scandal and had to rush to cover up her own culpability. Rather than accept blame for blatantly refusing to tighten security at the Benghazi mission, Hillary Clinton and others in the Obama Administration made shallow and disingenuous attempts to claim that the attack was not the result of a well-coordinated plan by a terrorist organization on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Instead, they insisted, the violence was supposedly the result of a spontaneous demonstration against an anti-Muslim YouTube video that virtually no one had ever seen before. To this end, the Administration ordered then-United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice to repeat this cover story on five different Sunday news shows on the same day.

The man responsible for creating the YouTube video, an Egyptian-born U.S. resident named Nakoula Nakoula, was subsequently arrested, charged, and paraded around as the scapegoat for the entire attack. Clinton even had the audacity to “promise” to the families of the victims that the Administration would hunt down and punish not the terrorists who actually killed their loved ones, but the filmmaker whom she blamed, as if he was somehow in part responsible for those deaths.

Keep in mind, in terms of the sheer quantity of wrongdoings attributable to Hillary Clinton, this list consists of just a fraction. The fact that she got away with all of these is a testament to the legal double-standard from which the corrupt elite benefits. There have been other, even more in-depth studies and compilations of her actions – and subsequent lack of consequences – by such men as Peter Schweizer, in his best-selling book Clinton Cash.

Although she consistently managed to escape legal consequences for her actions, Hillary Clinton decades-long streak of getting away scot-free finally came to an end, at the hands of 63 million Americans, on November 8, 2016. Even if Hillary Clinton never spends a single day in prison for any of her crimes, from the millions of dollars of dark money to the lives taken on her watch, the eventual final political outcome for her – fading into irrelevance, with a lost presidential race as her last accomplishment – just might be the most satisfying outcome possible.


There was even a few Democrats saying she needed to go to Prison and not be President out of fear for her ideology.


If that lying, manipulative, narcissistic, murderous, and scandalous woman would have been president of the United States in 2016 and not Donald Trump.

America would have been at war with Iran, Iraq, ISIS, North Korea, and Russia...I don't think your smart enough to understand this Beautiful but Wars cost BILLIONS!!!

Vladimir Putin who you probably have never heard of either Beautiful is the President of Russia who openly admitted publicly to vote for Trump because if Hillary Clinton wins from all her fraud and lies against Russia there will be a nuclear war it's in this link below:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN12C28Q

I don't know where or how you got that magical number of 300000+ less deaths if Trump wouldn't have won probably a number that a psychiatric nurse told you in the insane asylum and your probably going to have a hard time understanding this but WWII had as many as 75 Million Deaths and that was with a World Population of 2.3 Billion People at that time when in 2016 the World Population was almost 7.5 Billion another World War would have resulted in the Deaths of Tens of Millions to Hundreds of Millions of People.

degsey69 01-23-2021 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1138056)
also no drilling on Federal land and raising minimum wages would cost more job loss,yesterday,900,000 more filed for jobless claims,released,slightly lower than prior week,
But president usually will do what he said he will in his campaign,so voters know they are coming-minimum wage is Federal $15,but more states will follow.

With more homes foreclosed on and more evictions, how can you force a $15 minimum wage when we are suffering from COVID, businesses are applying for PPP because they have difficulty maintaining employment.

At present we need manufacturing companies to keep producing goods, farmers to keep growing and harvesting crops.

We have a train wreck in the making here folks and more to follow, all his actions will ensure the house and senate back in republican hands in 2 years time when his policies fail, probably replaced with Harris.

Beautiful 01-23-2021 11:48 PM

Re: Biden won the presidnecy.
 
Someone get slokor on the line

Over-under on Biden outperforming trumps ~400K deaths by the end of his 4 year term?

McMuffins this time?


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