Biden won the presidnecy.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by agent006140

Polticians wil tell you what you want to hear,raising minimum wage to $15 just not doable in some lines of business say restaurants.
I notice when you get your restaurant bill,it reminds you to tip the waiter and it even calculates for you if you tip10%,15%.20%.
We have one restaurant which requires you to walk up to the cashier and give your order,she just enters it on a pc and waitress will bring you the food and then you go back to the cashier to pay.
so for an average size restaurant,all you need is one waiter to bring you the food,and if business is slow,the cook or the cashier can bring the food,no waiter.
so you are looking for a waiter to work 5 hours (2 for lunch and 3 for dinner),cost is $75

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...akes-no-sense/

"The idea was that tipped workers' two salaries — the one paid by employers and the one paid by customers — was meant to equal, more or less, the single salaries earned by non-tipped workers. The problem is that it does not. The median tipped worker earns considerably less than the median U.S. worker, even when accounting for tips — $10.22 compared to $16.48, respectively, according to the institute."

[mike75493245]

USA is a very awkward country indeed , on one side it is high-tech on the other side it has millions of illegal immigrants , almost no document checks within the country , dead people voting , people voting multiple times , illegals voting , people without ID voting and more and more and more... this certainly looks like an asylum where the crazies have taken over the power...

[MM78]

Originally Posted by mike75493245

USA is a very awkward country indeed , on one side it is high-tech

on the other side it has millions of illegal immigrants , almost no document checks within the country , dead people voting , people voting multiple times , illegals voting , people without ID voting and more and more and more... this certainly looks like an asylum where the crazies have taken over the power...

Sorry, but none of that has been proven to be correct. Clearly you don't know anything.

[mike75493245]

proof is plentiful , the only problem is in the circuit and supreme courts of the individual states. we will wait and see whether the supreme court sends the election to the house

[MM78]

Originally Posted by mike75493245

proof is plentiful , the only problem is in the circuit and supreme courts of the individual states. we will wait and see whether the supreme court sends the election to the house

Funny how people say theres proof, yet they can never actually make it materialize. I still remember the 2016 election, all I heard was buses of illegals being bused in to vote but zero proof. Talk is cheap, you either have the proof or you don't. Still waiting on the Hunter Biden proof, LOL......nothing like some good ole made up bull****.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by mike75493245

proof is plentiful

Ah cool.... go ahead and pop a little of the proof here it would be great to read through.

[mike75493245]

proof will have to be decided by courts , that is why the actual existence of proof will be determined in december and january , by then the jurisdiction will have been taken away from the states and will be handed over to the supreme court and the congress. only then it will be possible to say whether the available proof is legally appreciated as proof. if it is not appreciated then there is no proof and Biden will become president. if it is appreciated then the electoral college will not be allowed to elect anyone but instead it will be done by the house delegations. this is the very reason why all this process is not even close to being decided the one or the other way. this is just the way the system works , the president is elected by congress and the congress will have the last say , it is also legally capable if ignoring electoral votes of any state

[JamesNorth101]

But you just said proof was plentiful... usually that means that you have seen some.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by mike75493245

proof will have to be decided by courts , that is why the actual existence of proof will be determined in december and january , by then the jurisdiction will have been taken away from the states and will be handed over to the supreme court and the congress. only then it will be possible to say whether the available proof is legally appreciated as proof. if it is not appreciated then there is no proof and Biden will become president. if it is appreciated then the electoral college will not be allowed to elect anyone but instead it will be done by the house delegation. this is the very reason why all this process is not even close to being decided the one or the other way

oh, so they don't want to show the lower courts the proof.....so they are saving all their proof for the Supreme Court? lol. Makes 100% sense....lol.

[mike75493245]

sorry but this is the way the system works , any court can decide in any way regardless of what is presented. the circuit and local supreme courts can accept or reject but only once the supreme of court makes the final decision it will be determined and all other courts will have to obey. this has been like this for ages in many different issues where a scotus decision is automatically enforced everywhere else. for this reason the matter is simple: the scotus says there is no proof then there is no proof , the scotus says there is proof then there is proof. and as far as election is concerned , there is no president-elect as long as he has not been elected by the college and there is no president without confirmation by congress

[JamesNorth101]

I think the point MM78 and I are getting at is that you said that 'proof is plentiful'. It would just be interesting to see what that proof is.

[mike75493245]

proof is plentiful as far as legal proceedings are concerned like for example hundreds of affidavits , video proof , observers being thrown out and much more. this is not a question of whether proof is available but whether proof is legally appreciated. and this process of appreciation or non-appreciation will be completed by january. right now there is no point to talk about whether what is presented will be legally considered as proof. but it is clear what happens if it will not and what happens if it will. if not , Biden will be elected by the college , confirmed by congress and inaugurated. if it will be appreciated , then the election will go the house where each state will get one vote and will decide who will be elected as president.

[MM78]

The lower courts have thrown out every damn case that has been presented because there was ZERO evidence shown.

Judge issues humiliating smackdown of Trump lawyers in court - YouTube

Judge issues humiliating smackdown of Trump lawyers in court - YouTube

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by MM78

The lower courts have thrown out every damn case that has been presented because there was ZERO evidence shown.

Theory at the moment is that they are doing it on purpose so that they can go to the supreme court when they will show their actual evidence... time will tell on that I guess.

[mike75493245]

it is completely meaningless what lower courts have decided , this matter here can only be decided by the scotus and all other courts will follow whatever it decides. furthermore judges in lower courts would not dare throw out hundreds of thousands of votes , any judge doing that would be exposed to massive pressure from the local leftists that is why they want to pass on the responsibility to the scotus

[MM78]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Theory at the moment is that they are doing it on purpose so that they can go to the supreme court when they will show their actual evidence... time will tell on that I guess.

That's what I also keep hearing.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by mike75493245

massive pressure from the local leftists that is why they want to pass on the responsibility to the scotus

LOL, I know...Damn those local leftist wanting to see the proof! ARGH! hahahaha.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by MM78

LOL, I know...Damn those local leftist wanting to see the proof! ARGH! hahahaha.

Always with the proof. Why don't people just believe exactly what they are told no questions asked. What has the world come to

[mike75493245]

it might come as a surprise but courts can make completely deliberate decisions based on politics , mentality , proof , mood , opinion etc. . there are for example plenty of people in the US jailed for life for murder although there is zero proof that the person in question is dead , there is no body , no proof of death , no blood - there is nothing. so how are these people convicted? it is very simple , there is a chain of events pointing into a specific direction. the court can use that chain to make a decision , the same applies to cases where a jury makes a decision. for that reason there is no such thing as "zero proof" , proof is whatever is decided by the court. that is why nothing is decided here and will not be decided until december or january

[MM78]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Always with the proof. Why don't people just believe exactly what they are told no questions asked. What has the world come to

I know, right....how dare people want to see proof.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by mike75493245

it might come as a surprise but courts can make completely deliberate decisions based on politics , mentality , proof , mood , opinion etc. . there are for example plenty of people in the US jailed for life for murder although there is zero proof that the person in question is dead , there is no body , no proof of death , no blood - there is nothing. so how are these people convicted? it is very simple , there is a chain of events pointing into a specific direction. the court can use that chain to make a decision , the same applies to cases where a jury makes a decision. for that reason there is no such thing as "zero proof" , proof is whatever is decided by the court. that is why nothing is decided here and will not be decided until december or january

Seriously, you're just trying to make two different things equal each other and that's not working. Now were talking about murder, dead bodies that don't exist, lol.

[mike75493245]

not different as far as the process of decision making is concerned