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spookycloud 07-19-2010 01:26 AM

Importing cigarettes?
 
Does anyone know why no one sells cigarettes on dhgate? I can only find wholesalers from alibaba.
Are these hard to get through customs or something?
Im just looking for a few cartons for personal use since prices here in usa are to much.

jeffweico 07-19-2010 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spookycloud (Post 151900)
Does anyone know why no one sells cigarettes on dhgate? I can only find wholesalers from alibaba.
Are these hard to get through customs or something?
Im just looking for a few cartons for personal use since prices here in usa are to much.

It is now illegal to import cigarettes to the US. They cite the Jenkins act.

Smokers have become a persecuted minority. Not only did they stop allowing importing cigarettes for personal use, but several states sued to have the records of these companies turned over to them, so they could steal (ummm... I mean, collect) more taxes from smokers.

Many years ago, I used to order online from SenecaSmokes.com. At the time, I lived in Chicago, one of the HIGHEST CIGARETTE TAX jurisdictions in the nation. So, once a month I would buy 4 cartons and have them shipped priority mail.

Seven years later, SenecaSmokes turned the purchase records over to the government, something they SWORE they would never do. Then, the State of Illinois sent me a bill for the back taxes for everything I had bought years earler. They were nice enough to include a note telling me that I was STEALING from Illinois taxpayers by ordering cigarettes online, and that if I did not want to have to pay fines and penalties, I would have to cough up over $5,000 immediately.

Two weeks later, I get another bill from Crook County wanting even more money.

BOTH WANTED ME TO PAY NOT WHAT THE TAXES WERE AT THE TIME, BUT THE NEW HIGHER TAXES THEY INSTITUTED YEARS LATER.

I never gave them a dime. As far as I am concerned the politicians, especially in Illinois, are all a bunch of criminals and thieves. Of course, everything they do is legal, since THEY WRITE THE LAWS. But that does not make it right.

In Chicago, a pack of cigarettes goes for nearly $10. That is a PACK, not a CARTON. Almost all of it in extortion (ummm... I mean EXCISE) taxes.

Of course, many people in Chicago buy their cigarettes outside of Crook County, mainly in Indiana. And a representative of Crook County was being interviewed on TV regarding revenue collection in the down economy. He stated that cigarette tax revenues were falling far short of expectations. HE ACTUALLY BLAMED THE STATE OF INDIANA, BECAUSE THEIR CIGARETTE TAXES WERE TOO CHEAP!!!

So the politicians view this not as a problem of their taxes being too high, but that a neighboring state sets their taxes TOO LOW! TYPICAL!

If you want to save money LEGALLY, Google Fresh Choice Tobacco. They sell an electric cigarette machine that is very easy to use and works very well. I have used one for over 4 years now, and it takes under 2 minutes to make a pack of your own cigarettes. They have a way of selling you the tobacco LEGALLY, free of taxes. Yes, this method is not as convenient as just buying packs of cigarettes, but at about $1 per pack it is the cheapest thing going.

And depriving the greedy, grasping politicians of more money - PRICELESS!!!

It seems that more and more, the government wants to tie everyone's hands and extract more money from the average person. While, of course, giving breaks to big businesses and the wealthy. Warren Buffet (the gazillionaire investor) actually agrrees with this. He wrote that his SECRETARY actually paid more in taxes one year than he did, and he felt there is something wrong with that. Stand up guy, that Warren Buffet is. I don't begrudge him one penny of his fortune.

I dearly love my country, and I realize that I was lucky to be born in the greatest nation on the planet. You would have a hard time finding someone more patriotic than I am. But that doesn't mean that I like the current crop of politicians. Democrats, Republicans, it doesn't make a difference. BOTH parties spend money they don't have. Granted, they spend it on different things, but the point is the money is still spent. So, they need more and more taxes to keep the whole mess going.

The fifteen year old son of a friend once asked me what courses he should consider taking to prepare him for future success. I told him to learn Chinese.

OK, I'll get off the soapbox now and stop venting.

LOVING AMERICA AND HATING THE POLITICIANS!

=}

rsot 07-19-2010 09:40 AM

Wow jeffweico - rant on bud, rant on...

Burning 07-19-2010 11:23 AM

Woot! Nice written essay you have there. If you really want to learn about REAL corruption, you should come to Canada. Trust me, come here and you'll figure alot. There have been huge inner scandals within our own political system including the biggest, the e-health scandal. Actually, Canada is ranked NUMBER 8 in the list of 180 most corrupt countries.

There nothing we can do regarding this, corruption and political greed will always be there no matter what. Everyone has a price...

rsot 07-19-2010 11:33 AM

Got to git that number 1 Ranking! ha - competition on

slapped 07-19-2010 01:09 PM

Back in the day DHGate was LOADED with Cigaretts, Viagra, Big Screen TV's and More all ⊗⊗⊗⊗ of Course. DHGate was also LOADED with SCAM Artists Absconding with your Money, I For one am Glad to see that DHGate has Cleaned up A LOT since then.

It is Indeed Illegal to sell them.

@jeffweico CROOK County, I Like that.

Cigarettes here in N.Y. are Now almost $12.00 PER PACK!!!

xl_The_Jackal_lx 07-19-2010 01:28 PM

RYO seems to be the way to go nowadays. But it's only a matter of time before they tighten their grip around that too. With $2 trillion dollars in debt and the dollar being inflated to infinity, the US Fed is getting desperate and it shows.

I would never order smokes from China, personally.

rsot 07-19-2010 01:29 PM

I was following cigarettes economy up in Canada as part of public health for some time and it was sick to see the government making more money off of the cigarettes than the companies themselves. Horrible.

Burning 07-19-2010 01:45 PM

Most of the smokes are produced in Canada. I thought that smokes were cheaper in the USA, I'm not sure about the price there but when I went to NH, I saw cigarette packs for $5 at gas stations.

I could understand why smokes are expensive in Canada due to the free health care system but in the USA they don't have free health care..heh.

rsot 07-19-2010 02:13 PM

Ha true - insurance companies and their racket...

MadSam 07-19-2010 05:02 PM

:eek:"In Chicago, a pack of cigarettes goes for nearly $10. ":shocked:

But then, we do pay $10 per gallon for gas and that's the lowest price.

jeffweico 07-19-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning (Post 151965)
Woot! Nice written essay you have there. If you really want to learn about REAL corruption, you should come to Canada. Trust me, come here and you'll figure alot. There have been huge inner scandals within our own political system including the biggest, the e-health scandal. Actually, Canada is ranked NUMBER 8 in the list of 180 most corrupt countries.

Comparing Nation to Nation, that may be true. But even THE MOST CORRUPT part of Canada has nothing on Chicago. Chicago INVENTED and PERFECTED corruption! :lol:

ptenchick 07-19-2010 05:28 PM

In New York I pay $12.75 for mine...:( you have to be a millionaire if you smoke a pack a day...

jeffweico 07-19-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ptenchick (Post 152032)
In New York I pay $12.75 for mine...:( you have to be a millionaire if you smoke a pack a day...

This is just LEGALIZED EXTORTION!

Too bad we can't use the RICO laws to confiscate the government. Even the MAFIA must be envious of this one!

I remember when I was about 8 years old. My Mom was sick one day and called the drugstore to ask them if she could send me to pick up a pack of cigarettes. She gave me $1 and I brought back change. :tears:

Burning 07-19-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 152040)
This is just LEGALIZED EXTORTION!

Too bad we can't use the RICO laws to confiscate the government. Even the MAFIA must be envious of this one!

I remember when I was about 8 years old. My Mom was sick one day and called the drugstore to ask them if she could send me to pick up a pack of cigarettes. She gave me $1 and I brought back change. :tears:

Wow, well..

I guess the best option is to quite smoking, in this way the government gets nothing..:lol:

rsot 07-19-2010 09:40 PM

Or if quitting not an option, smoke something better ha...

jeffweico 07-19-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 152063)
Or if quitting not an option, smoke something better ha...

I always knew that ONE DAY pot would be cheaper than tobacco. Drug dealers may be greedy, but politicians take greed to a whole new level.

xl_The_Jackal_lx 07-20-2010 12:01 AM

Quote:

Drug dealers may be greedy, but politicians take greed to a whole new level.
At least drug dealers are honest about their work.

OfficialGenius 07-26-2010 10:42 AM

If you smoke those ⊗⊗⊗⊗ cigs that come from China you are killig yourself. That show on NBC about counterfeits said those cigs contain insect eggs. :rip:

OfficialGenius 07-26-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptenchick (Post 152032)
In New York I pay $12.75 for mine...:( you have to be a millionaire if you smoke a pack a day...

You smoke too? :faint:

Making alot of money on eBay from the comfort of your own home and smoking doesn't combine. Put down those cancer sticks. You are ruining your beauty! :nono:

rsot 07-26-2010 10:47 AM

Easy - don't preach ha.

MadSam 07-26-2010 12:51 PM

In most of Europe it's about 1 Euro a pack.


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