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I feel like I am in Ebay forum or something in here. I thought the title said "everything else" which means everything else. But threads are getting censored and closed closed. I just find that odd but whom am i to say. It isn't my forum.. Maybe the topic should be called" Everything else that I approve all"

but any, here is more proof of what is to come..The mark off the beast 1 world government..NORTH AMERICAN UNION & VCHIP TRUTH

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lol! man you never spell this right. It's mark of the beast.

The beast was the monster that was ancient Rome: the seven heads was the 7 hills of the Palantine hill in Rome (an excavation there this year discovered the nursery cave of Romulus and Remis the wolf-raised children who founded Rome, and near it the first Christian church).
The ten crowns on the head of 7 headed monster represented the seats of power Rome controlled.
1 of the 7 heads had died of a self-inflicted wound was a description of Nero, who the Beast was based on by the spelling of his name numerically was 666.
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I feel like I am in Ebay forum or something in here. I thought the title said "everything else" which means everything else. But threads are getting censored and closed closed. I just find that odd but whom am i to say. It isn't my forum.. Maybe the topic should be called" Everything else that I approve all"

but any, here is more proof of what is to come..The mark off the beast 1 world government..NORTH AMERICAN UNION & VCHIP TRUTH

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The 21st Century is going to known as the Asian Century... The decline of the US and the rise of the next 3 economic super powers.

1. China

2. India

3. Japan

The 21st century is already writen, only certain nations will play important roles. And pretty much by the middle of the 21 century, the US will fall out to the sidelines. Unfortunately the US misfortune lay with that of the cold wars, Afghanistan, Middle east wars, and Iraq... all scaps of mess left over from bickering between the US and the Soviet Union. If there is one thing the US should have learned from the cold war.... Do not over spend

The final reason for the decline of the US, people like this are not openly executed for crimes against natural law

And Carrot Top is the antichrist.
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The 21st Century is going to known as the Asian Century... The decline of the US and the rise of the next 3 economic super powers.

1. China

2. India

3. Japan

The 21st century is already writen, only certain nations will play important roles. And pretty much by the middle of the 21 century, the US will fall out to the sidelines. Unfortunately the US misfortune lay with that of the cold wars, Afghanistan, Middle east wars, and Iraq... all scaps of mess left over from bickering between the US and the Soviet Union. If there is one thing the US should have learned from the cold war.... Do not over spend

The final reason for the decline of the US, people like this are not openly executed for crimes against natural law




In the 20th century, there was the USSR, though most people only equate Asia with countries where people resemble ethnic Chinese even if the locations are islands that aren't actually part of Asia. Japan is an island not on Asia.

The whole 21st century terrorist stuff and Israel stuff is in Asia, too, but middle east problems happened in the 20th century, too.
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There used to be a site jewsdidwtc.com by a trolling organization GNAA.

As for Bush doing 9/11, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Gunmen_%28TV_Series%29#9.2F11_Foreshadowi ng

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In a foreshadowing of the September 11, 2001 attacks, the plot of the March 4, 2001 pilot episode of the series depicts a secret U.S. government agency plotting to crash a Boeing 727 headed for Boston into the World Trade Center via remote control for the purpose of increasing the military defense budget and blaming the attack on foreign "tin-pot dictators" who are "begging to be smart-bombed." This episode was broadcast in Australia on August 30, less than two weeks before the 9/11 attacks.[3]
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God help America if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination.
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Dont worry . If Hillary wins Bill Clinton will be running the show
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Dont worry . If Hillary wins Bill Clinton will be running the show
Well, we had two presidents with Bush and Chaney.

With the Clintons you get Billary.

I am still voting for them. I'm sick of fascism in America, and the fleecing of Americans by corporate cannibals.

I've been watching the primaries. Fascinating. I also like Obama. He's very intelligent and upstanding.
And also think men like McCain are great Americans if not necessarily presidential. Did you see when he had the Confederate flag removed last week from that red State that had 76% southern Republicans against its' removal? That's what great Americans do. And because McCain is a Republican, his decision against that confederate flag was like saying to his own party is racist and white supremist. He has balls because he suffered imprisonment and daily tortured in VietNam.
McCain is a throw back to what a true blue American is suppose to be because real Americans are crusaders of goodness.
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You know what freightens me the most..
IF Hillary should get in-- take her eyes off the ball, and the Flight lessons start up, etc. etc..
--Then my kids will be drafted most likely, because next time it wont be just NYC..
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Dutch... you dont see what is happing... there is a thresh hold... a point of no return... america is nearing it. The currently election is not going to help america stray away from this point of no return.
Are you Nostradamus? How do you know this is actually going to happen in the future?

We as Americans have the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to protect us. I've evoked my right many times against the "powers that be". And I am nobody.
I doubt very much this country is in a decline for the worse. Americans want Bush and all facets of his lazy administration GONE so we can rebuild this country's reputation and credit.

Americans are fierce people. We will survive. I also don't proscribe to the fear mongering that this is the end of the world as we know it and that we are facing some form of bullying or invasion from Russia, China and India.
Russia has been reverting back into an Isolationist Socialist regime like they did in their "glory days " of Stalin, who was Satan incarnate. They don't want to be bothered. China on the other hand is moving into a Socialist Capitalist system, and they love Americans and America loves the Chinese. They actually have been very good to us. And I have done wonderful business with them in the past until the un-American corporate kocksuckers of Greedbay turned Isolationist-Protectionist-Extortionist following their R.I.C.O. lawsuits with the real world.
If we were not banned from eBay and Amazon, we'd all be exalting the virtues of Capitalism and free trade.
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I am not Nostradamus, I am Sava Haganda, secondly... I watch the trends... and come up with an outlook of what is going to happen at the current pace


I am not a fear monger... that is for sure... secondly, your pretty right about americans loving the Chinese... every white guy wants a Chinese girl... Secondly, the chinese economic system practices isolationism. the idea that they produce so much products, at such a low price, openly trading with them is a nightmare, how can you sell american products over there, while they can produce them at a fraction of the cost.

example--- the russians would sell military equipment to the chinese, who would copy the item, and produce it at a cheaper cost than the other.

Alot of the things you say, dont make sense. the other day you praised bush for the war on terror, and now you bash him.

The idea of free trade is an illusion, you can not tell me that american corporations are openly practice free trade, it is not happening.
Stop taking me seriously. Yes, I praised the war, but Bush neglected the country. And for that Bush sucks. And so does Shotgun Chaney.
But, I tend to root for the villain in Westerns anyway...and watch him get his just desserts in the end.
Bush however is not the villain. He had 9/11 to fight. As I would have.

Free trade exists outside of ebay. I know. I live it. And that is my experience with it: a breath of Fresh Air.

ebay is not the real world. It's just a glorified flea market. At least it once was. It became it own worst enemy.

I wish the gov't would start a war with them and bomb their headquarters out of existence. Such is the German side of me. And we are mullers where I come from.

The really poor, poor working class, working class and middle class are suffering from corporate fascism of ebay and amazon marketplaces. It has ruined too many descent law-abiding citizens who have been one step from being labeled criminals by them. These criminal organizations need to be investigated and their executives jailed. That will satiate the people. Hold the human devils accountable. Make them pay back.

A new leader is what we as Americans need to get back on track with the business OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE. That is why we need Billary back in the White House.:D

NRON was a drop in the bucket of corporate greed. But many corporations have followed suit in the aftermath of 9/11.

American Power in the world is not in jeopardy. We invented too many things. We are the Atlantis of the modern world. A super race of space travelers and inventors. We invented Rock and Roll. We ain't going nowhere soon.
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In the spirit of the 9/11 conspiracy theories we are currently discussing, comes another shocking exposé of US Government corruption - They sunk the Titanic! Everyone thinks it's an iceberg though.. hahaha you stupid sheep, when will you all wake up and see the truth?? :P

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Well Dutch... a good 80% of all the stuff you said... I agree... As far as being German, My dad was from a part of Germany which was eastern Prussia. I guess after world war 2, it became part of Poland... but I am not a Polack... hell no.

My grandfather was a bone surgeon, and a pilot in world war 1... they left Germany in 1938.
My grandfather died in Auschwitz during WWII.

It was ruled an accident. They said he slipped and fell while climbing down the guard's tower.




That's a joke. :D :D :D :D
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I'm neither Democrat or Republican. Hell, I'm not even American. I've been living there for many years, though. But I do all my business in USD, so I do care about the elections - a lot.

What I see is:

Republicans = War
War = US Economy going down.

and...

Republicans = Pro-War
Democrats = Anti-War
Hillary = Pro-War
Obama = Anti-War

therefor..

Hillary = Republican in disguise.

If Hillary wins, there's going to be another war. Probably with Iran and then that will not only totally mess up the US economy, but also the fragile stability in the Middle East.

So what's left is Edwards and Obama. Edwards is a cool guy, but he's never going to win, I wish he would accept that and just quit. So there's Obama left. We don't know if he'll be good or bad, but he'll be way better than Hillary any day. Give the guy a chance, I'd prefer an ordinary guy any day running the US than one of those soaped up politicians. It can't get worse than it already is.

So please, if you're still undecided, vote for Obama. I don't want another 4 or possibly 8 years of war.
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Republicans like uniformity. The difference between Republicans and Democrats is the Democrats temper their fascism with nude art.
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therefor..

Hillary = Republican in disguise.

If Hillary wins, there's going to be another war. Probably with Iran and then that will not only totally mess up the US economy, but also the fragile stability in the Middle East.
hecks no. Bill Clintion is not having that. best believe Bill will be running the show behind closed doors for Hillary. Do you not think George Bush SR is not running the show for his son??
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therefor..

Hillary = Republican in disguise.

If Hillary wins, there's going to be another war. Probably with Iran and then that will not only totally mess up the US economy, but also the fragile stability in the Middle East.
hecks no. Bill Clintion is not having that. best believe Bill will be running the show behind closed doors for Hillary. Do you not think George Bush SR is not running the show for his son??
With Bush you get Chaney. The closest this country had to having two presidents for the price of none. Add Bush Sr to the mix and we get the unholy three.

All presidents have had "advisors". And the VP is no exception.

No one president is ever really really alone so to speak. That's why if Billary wins, we may see an interesting Vice President emerge as well. But I imagine it will be a little better under a Billary Presidency.

Cynicism is running high in lue of the recession which has become a reality.
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I find it hard to imagine how Americans are so stupid, ...Nothing has happen... more troops are in Iraq, and republican policy is still at the fore front...
Nothing has happened is because Bush is still in power and has the power to veto. Until he packs up and leaves with all the ash trays and silver ware, we may see a change for the better with BILLARY.

And looks who's talking. lol! You're not even a citizen of this country and you don't pay taxes. You claimed you have ⊗⊗⊗⊗ SS numbers and you defraud Americans internationally on ebay. That can be construed as un-American. lol!

Americans might be stupid, but that's what makes us lovable. We are inherently good people who make mistakes sometimes. And we are gosh-darn generous and helpful. I don't know what America you live in. The America I live in is still Home of the Brave. God bless America!

lol! You're not even a citizen and you don't pay taxes. Gimme US a break.

We invented Elvis.
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Your definately wrong about that... I am an American... I have an american birth paper as well as a Belizean one... thanks to good old dad. I probably would have been born in the US if the US immigration laws weren't so anti-German in the 1930s... My grandfather tried many times to come to the US and escape the nazis. but we know how great the US is... with racist immigration policies.

In the near future the US is going to be Estados Unidos de America... well atleast if the mexican government has its way

after awhile... americans praise elvis now.... soon it is going to be Hurricanas del Norte or Juan Sabastian, some straight up brazer music
It's not your fault there are many angry americans who feel hopeless, but I am not misanthropic about the future of this country and world history.

People can change history if they really want it. I got kicked off eBay. I evolved. I changed my skin. It's my life. I took back control of it. I've been fired before from future-less jobs by throwing myself on my sword. Sometimes you win by losing by quitting while you are ahead instead of just flat out quitting.
I can change my history because I live in a country of free will because I live in this country.

Have you ever been arrested? You see the world as it really is. You see the dregs and the down-trodden of the world and the great disparity of human existence. Who wants to live like that? Who will save them?

Adopting a more integrated, healthier outlook on life will put a spring in your step if you stop blaming the gov't for your troubles. I got news for you, You are the government. You are the establishment. Think about it.

Racism in Europe is not an issue because it's called pride. It's culturally acceptable, as in other European countries Racism is Nationalism) and therefore sociably acceptable.

Good Americans are a little more black and white about pride: virtue vs. viciousness. Good vs. bad. Poor vs. Rich...Its not about race, but what you can do that impacts your society and your community in a positive way.

But cynicism is not the way unless you are hiding some truth behind your opinions that have greatly affected your personal experience I'm not going to deny you that right to dissent. Dissent is the back bone of this country.

But if you are like me and watch a lot of late-TV talk shows, I am frustrated that so many of them are so 24/7 bitter angry about everything. Is it the writer's or the host's opinion? Or because it gets ratings to be contrary?
You can't really trust anyone unless they fall on their sword. That is how I measure my peers. And with that rule, I am better for it because I am aware life is ironic and I am always practicing awareness of my environment and those I associate with.
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I'm neither Democrat or Republican. Hell, I'm not even American. I've been living there for many years, though. But I do all my business in USD, so I do care about the elections - a lot.
Are you from Iraq? Your flag is that.



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Republicans = War
War = US Economy going down.

and...

Republicans = Pro-War
Democrats = Anti-War
Hillary = Pro-War
Obama = Anti-War

therefor..

Hillary = Republican in disguise.

If Hillary wins, there's going to be another war. Probably with Iran and then that will not only totally mess up the US economy, but also the fragile stability in the Middle East.

So what's left is Edwards and Obama. Edwards is a cool guy, but he's never going to win, I wish he would accept that and just quit. So there's Obama left. We don't know if he'll be good or bad, but he'll be way better than Hillary any day. Give the guy a chance, I'd prefer an ordinary guy any day running the US than one of those soaped up politicians. It can't get worse than it already is.

So please, if you're still undecided, vote for Obama. I don't want another 4 or possibly 8 years of war.

Hillary looks untrustworthy. When people were trying to reveal the truth about Area 51 in the 90s, Bill Clinton stopped them. Hillary also says she likes getting lots of dirty campaign moneys.

Obama looks best. Ralph Nader may be good, too.
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