Winning not whining....

TMiles · #1 07-15-2008

Winning not whining....

It is time for action. I personally am fed-up with $4.00 a gallon gas. That being said, I am also tired of seeing people whine about the high cost of gas as they drive their 13 miles per gallon vehicles by themselves to commute daily.

Believe it or not, the truth is that we are the ones to blame for the high cost of fuel. America accounts for 5% of the world's population, but uses 25% of the world's resources. This includes petroleum.

We can all work together to solve this problem. T Boone Pickens is arguably the best oil man over the last 50 years. He has literally made Billions of dollars in the oil market. Yet, he has a plan......

http://www.pickensplan.com/

Take a moment and look at his plan. We CAN solve this problem, if we want to.......

greg2414 · #2 07-15-2008

I dont get why they cant afford to import??
I thought customers pay their bills, which pay's for the importing?

Am i missing something?

I know it's bad (oil) but i dont get why he says we cant afford it? When the customers are paying for it ?

**aspkin** · #3 07-15-2008

I wish I could open my own wind farm... Or just have one wind turbine in my backyard.

That would be great..

badebay · #4 07-15-2008

you guys in ths states paying $4.00 a gallon ?? how much is it/ how much has it risen street level. ?? were paying £1.19.5 a litre here in uk

**aspkin** · #5 07-15-2008

About $4 a gallon.

You guys are like $8, yes?

greg2414 · #6 07-15-2008

i filled up my vauxhall vivaro the other day at BP. £105 to fill it and that was 70Ltrs. rediculous.

I remember when the lrs would be the same as the cost near enough.

Aspkin, there is a chap near me who has his own wind turbine in his garden lol, beasting thing!

GreenBean · #7 07-15-2008

A lot of wind here on the forum could be harnessed!

Fuel prices are getting worse, that is for sure.

TMiles · #8 07-15-2008

For those in the UK, the Americans demand for oil also drive up your prices, and it is only going to get worse...

America has 250 million cars on the road. That is 3 cars for every 4 people. On the other hand, China has only about 80 million cars. That is roughly 4 1/2 cars for every 100 people. The problem is China is increasing car production by 18% to 20% per year. By 2020, in 13 years, China will have more cars than the US. There simply is not enough oil to go around.

Think about this, over 1/2 a billion cars in the US and China alone. Around the world, there will be over 1 billion cars.....

To Greg, unlike the UK, America is vast, and cars are a necessity. We do not live on top of one another.

Further, this increase in gas prices is driving up costs everywhere and the US economy is hurting. And if the US economy sours, so does Europe, Asia, etc........

TMiles · #9 07-15-2008

Aspkin....I will follow up in a month or so....I am putting up a small wind generator next month....

highwhey · #10 07-15-2008

I have to drive my car. City buses are always filled with hobos that smell horribly and then their is the weed smoking kid who smells even worse than the hobo. No thanks. I prefer to smell my own scent.

greg2414 · #11 07-15-2008

but the way you put it out and how its being put out is "They cant afford it" it;s not that at all, it's like you said running out, not enough.

If the price of a ltr of petrol was £2 we would still pay it, we would moan but we would still pay, until it runs out.

Anyway, yes im all for wind and reusuable energy.

**aspkin** · #12 07-15-2008

I'll be one of the first in line for the all electric volt cars. No more gas for me!

greg2414 · #13 07-15-2008

horse and cart, then use horse dung for powa yay!!! Im the new eistein. God im tired.

badebay · #14 07-16-2008

Yes gas is $ 8.00 here…we pay about 70% tax that’s why. There is unrest here though and I can see big problems with trucking companies going broke or striking.. Causing misery for us all..

I saw Bush has given the go ahead for oil exploration in places that were banned before. In the states..
I recon the Arabs are trying to make as much as possible before the oil runs out . They already built huge business centres. Like Dubai .
They are worried about the future for them . Maybe they have to give up the convertible rolls and the Aston .

Nissan have been testing a Hydrogen production 4x4 . It has no exhaust as it just pumps out water. 100% environmentally friendly.
I know there are problems with the tank safety. But I read a press release that says they have made the tank take enormous crash tests , they say its safe now. ( it’s an almost silent car ) drives the same as any car…
The other problem I can see its where and who is going to stock hydrogen tanks. ?? Will all gas stations have them on the forecourts.
How much will the 1st models be.. £50,000 I bet !!

APSKIN stop showing off.. im getting a real bike. 1X1 PEDAL POWER. pity i live a mile out ot town really. as i wouldnt bother havin a car.

**aspkin** · #15 07-16-2008

I have plans to get a Bike soon. And I'm not talking about a bicycle.

I'm thinking of a Ninja 250 for their 44mpg. Plus they're cool.

GreenBean · #16 07-16-2008

BMWs for me, even two wheelers. They are great machines.The F650 is great
BUT its big brother the R1200GS is awesome. Paramedics in Sydney have just
updated to F650 for intra-city responses. They handle really well even on the footpath. Mind, pedestrians get scared.

topazcorp · #17 07-16-2008

I have an Hayabusa 2008 (the 1299cc edition) and I love it! Cost me almost nothing in gas and like aspkin said, it's pretty cool lol!

With the rising price of the barrel we're gonna get rich (Canadian)! We have the biggest reserve in the world at least twice as big as saudi arabia's and we are the main supplier of the US for oil and electricity.

411guru · #18 07-16-2008

Us Americans think $4 a gallon is bad? The rest of the world pays $7-8 for 1 liter. 1 gallon = 3.78541178 liters, so thats $15+ a gallon!!! It cost me $65 dollars to fill up my Camry today. I remember when I started driving it cost me $18, 10 years ago. I think the US gas price is just catching up to the rest of the world, its just we had it cheap for so long.

**aspkin** · #19 07-16-2008

It's not that much for the UK people, it's more like $8.50 per gallon.

And who cares really, if you think about the EURO as twice the value of the dollar which it is, their hurt is just about the same as it is for the US.

Explained...

A UK Gallon is about 1.2 US Gallons.

Price of gas in Texas today $4.00 for one US Gallon (for ease).
Price of gas in Hertfordshire, England £1.24 (GBP) for one Litre (UK)

1 Litre (UK) is the same as 0.26 US Gallons.

so 3.85 Litres (UK) = 1 US Gallon (roughly)

so £4.78p (GBP) for one gallon of gas in the UK.

Which is $9.42 for one gallon of gas.

badebay · #20 07-16-2008

your so clever askpin . your right. but you did have it cheap there a long time.

411guru · #21 07-16-2008

Nice. Did I just get own3d? lol,

In any case, their gas was high for years while ours is catching up. Your answer is correct base on the current world situation assumption. Also, the devaluation of the US dollar is recent. I also know that gas was $7 a liter in Germany 3 years ago and $4 a liter in Japan 4 years ago. Saw it personally.

badebay · #22 07-16-2008

anyway. anyone knows that china and america are going through the worlds resources like president mugabe has friends. slap !!! ouch !!!!!!!!!