US Election 2016

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by MM78

Everything! someone gets hit by lightning...illegals, jobs sent overseas....illegals, it does not stop James.

Here is something to blame illegals with as well James]

They can ise the water to make chocolate

[GhostOfAmazon]

Have you guys heard about the EU now censoring ONLINE speech, even for Americans?

European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - European Commission and IT Companies announce Code of Conduct on illegal online hate speech

What kind of messed up world are we living in? God help us!

Originally Posted by MM78

Great Quote Dear
I prefer that clinton will win

[applepbc]

They do at the moment because they unfortunately remain a problem. If 100% of illegal immigrants were great law-abiding people, America wouldn't be bitching whatsoever. We acknowledge many of them do the work we just do not want to do. We are thankful for that. Its kind of like the logic behind drug testing welfare recipients. Statistics show the cost of the drug testing program will not SAVE any money, but you can be sure as sh*t that most people do not want our freeloaders getting carelessly high with our money. Its a slap in the face.

This american "problem totem pole" has enough of our own uneducated, system-sucking citizens in it, of course. But we tend to value our own filth more, which is arguably loyal.

Should we also address the issue of 50% of violent crime being committed by 13% of the population (african american males)? How the american thug culture is an inescapable plague that is spreading rapidly where its COOL to get kicked out of high school and COOL to impregnate multiple girls and COOL to sell crack, as long as you do it all in designer clothes?

There are so so so many issues to go on and on and on about. Just because the importance of one outweighs another, does not take away the validity of the logic surrounding this one.

Too many people believe just because something ELSE is wrong, it somehow gives allowance for a lesser wrong. I see it all the effing time. Human nature is dumb as F*CK.

[aspkin]

Trump...

[GhostOfAmazon]

One thing that this attack has brought to light is the fact that our southern border is FAR from our biggest problem.....

[slapped]

While I agree that President Obama has NOT dealt with Terrorism as he should have, I do NOT see what difference calling them Radical Islamists would make

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by slapped

While I agree that President Obama has NOT dealt with Terrorism as he should have, I do NOT see what difference calling them Radical Islamists would make

Relates to why he calls it "ISIL" rather than "ISIS." That would be my guess as to why this matters whatsoever.

Limbaugh EXPOSES Why Obama Says "ISIL" Instead Of "ISIS" - Shocking!

[MM78]

This is so true:

[phaz0rz]

I have nothing against Muslims. I just think Obama's behavior towards them is a bit bizarre.

BTW though, what is Jihad?

[MM78]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Relates to why he calls it "ISIL" rather than "ISIS." That would be my guess as to why this matters whatsoever.

Limbaugh EXPOSES Why Obama Says "ISIL" Instead Of "ISIS" - Shocking!

People actually take Rush Limbaugh seriously? He's full of hot air and other things.

[dan_ebay]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

One thing that this attack has brought to light is the fact that our southern border is FAR from our biggest problem.....

Letting everyone have a gun is your biggest problem. If you give people guns then they kill eachother, its quite clear.

Don't like Islam but don't really think you can blame it on that, plenty of the mass shooters have been white. Read about one a few months ago, a christian who shot up a abortion clinic. Probably a good idea to get rid of all these fairytale books that people live their life by too

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by dan_ebay

Letting everyone have a gun is your biggest problem. If you give people guns then they kill eachother, its quite clear.

That ship has long sailed in the US

Gun control would be totally redundant. There are so many guns floating about in the US now that banning all sales would be totally pointless.

Added to that there would be a civil uprising

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

I have nothing against Muslims. I just think Obama's behavior towards them is a bit bizarre.

BTW though, what is Jihad?

JIhad is ensuring that Muslims maintain the Faith.

They have expanded that to becoming militant.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

Wiki is a reasonable source to explain the meaning.

The concept tends to differ between the various sects of Muslims.

Too complex for here, imo.

[dan_ebay]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

That ship has long sailed in the US

Gun control would be totally redundant. There are so many guns floating about in the US now that banning all sales would be totally pointless.

Added to that there would be a civil uprising

Yeah true, could make it harder and phase them out though.

Bit like the UK is pretty much guaranteed to have the £ crash and our economy in general crash atleast short term if we leave the EU but I still want to leave

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by dan_ebay

Yeah true, could make it harder and phase them out though.

You underestimate how much most Americans love guns.

Its very different in the US to the UK (and rest of the EU). Different sort of mind set and upbringing.

That is not to say its wrong, its just very different.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by dan_ebay

Yeah true, could make it harder and phase them out though.

Two chances of that.... None and no chance.

Gun ownership is an intrinsic part of the US way of life.

The NRA has a platform of not just gun ownership BUT civil rights. That subtle differences gets adherents to the group.

https://home.nra.org

[dan_ebay]

Yeah I know it won't happen. Really struggle with the logic of everyone having a gun making it safer rather than hardly anyone having a gun.
I'm sure its helped in a few situations but I expect it generally makes it worse even if you were to get attacked with a gun and certainly doesn't help in general lol.
If I go and rob a shop or whatever and have a gun pointed at someones head and I see him go for a gun then hes probably dead, otherwise I'd just take the money and be done (assuming I've put the bullet in properly which would be unlikely tbf)

[GreenBean]

Training to use a firearm says aim for centre of mass, ie the chest!

Brings down many a perp.

[dan_ebay]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

Training to use a firearm says aim for centre of mass, ie the chest!

Brings down many a perp.

Thanks I'll remember that lol. Unless its a woman ofcourse, might be slightly off target and hit boobies

[Play]

I am with the majority opinion that terrorism has no place in society and should be expelled.
However, this election has one major fault, it seems to be associating all purported acts of terrorism with a particular religion.
Now let's take a moment and look at this from a statistical and logical point of view.
Most of us are business minded intellectual individuals, so this should be simple to comprehend.

There have been 140,000 terror attacks committed worldwide since 1970.
Even if Muslims carried out all of these attacks (which is an absurd assumption), those terrorists would represent less than 0.00009 percent of all Muslims.
(Source: Muslims Are Not Terrorists: A Factual Look at Terrorism and Islam)

Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the United States: According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims. This means that an American terrorist suspect is over nine times more likely to be a non-Muslim than a Muslim. According to this same report, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism in the United States than Islamic, yet when was the last time we heard about the threat of Jewish terrorism in the media? For the same exact reasons that we cannot blame the entire religion of Judaism or Christianity for the violent actions of those carrying out crimes under the names of these religions, we have absolutely no justifiable grounds to blame Muslims for terrorism.
(Source: Muslims Are Not Terrorists: A Factual Look at Terrorism and Islam)

So here are some statistics for those interested. Let’s start with Europe. Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong.
That is, unless you said less than 2 percent.
(Source: Are All Terrorists Muslims? It’s Not Even Close - The Daily Beast)

Here's an interesting article of 10 things your most likely to be killed by, over a terrorist.
(Source: 10 Things More Likely to Kill You than Islamic Terror)

Now, you could argue I cherry picked these articles. But the the majority consensus from most articles I have read is that the percentage of Muslims who have no affiliation with terrorism always outweighs those that do. We're not talking about a ratio such as 6:4 here, we are talking about those being affiliated to terrorism being as little as less than 2%!

So when you refer to a Muslim as a terrorist, you are not talking about the less than 2%, but rather 100% of its entire community, including the 98%+ who have never had any association with terrorism in their life.

The point I am trying to make is don't paint everyone with the same brush.
If you're painting every Muslim as a terrorist, you may as well paint every American as a murderer, or every individual on the planet as a criminal - because a portion of it's population has purported such crime.

So why is there so much fear over terrorism and Muslims?
Put basically: "The fear of Islamic extremism currently sweeping the nation is objectively overblown."

Why would media portray a religion negatively?
It could be for an array of reasons. From a business minded individual like me, one of the first things that comes to mind is money. Believe it or not, lies sell a lot more than the truth.

Example: If I had written an article such as "Jennifer Lawrence to potentially get axed from the next hunger games after allegedly being affiliated with terrorism."
Sure it may be far from the truth, but are you telling me your not going to click that article? - which will then lead to me making some money.

Did you know Fox News was on track to earn more than $700,000,000 in 2010?.

We are not talking about small corporations here. These guys are big money machines! Lies sell well!

To end, this post is simply for informative purposes, and I hope it doesn't instigate a rant.

P.S. Mods - I know you don't like formatted text, I just thought with such a long post it would help break it down a little.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by dan_ebay

Letting everyone have a gun is your biggest problem. If you give people guns then they kill eachother, its quite clear.

Don't like Islam but don't really think you can blame it on that, plenty of the mass shooters have been white. Read about one a few months ago, a christian who shot up a abortion clinic. Probably a good idea to get rid of all these fairytale books that people live their life by too

You forget WHY we have guns.

A little over 200 years ago, you Brits tried to take over the country.

Hence the 2nd amendment.

That's all water under the bridge, but the reason we have the right to bare arms is to keep overreaching government in check. That includes our own.