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Caseyjr86 10-15-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Modee (Post 3972)
I really cannot think of any sites that make serious money without pay per click though. Not one.

Even EBAY appears on the right side at the top of Google every time you enter a keyword - ANY keyword. You don't think they also appear on the left under SEO every time? They do but they still pay for pay per click.

Aspkin, help us out with some magic formulas for SEO, because it's not working w/o pay per click for me. Not that I mind PPC, it's very cost effective for me, but would love to S. E. O.!

Sorry if someone posted an answer to this already, but if you want more organic hits on your website, try making some articles involving what your selling. Content is what drives google traffic. Say if your selling legit sunglasses, make an article how to spot a ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Or if your selling phones or parts make a youtube video and article explaining how to take a phone cover off. An inventory in itself will not help really with any traffic. If you have any other websites throw in a link or two linking in each other.

aspkin 10-15-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Caseyjr86 (Post 61977)
Sorry if someone posted an answer to this already, but if you want more organic hits on your website, try making some articles involving what your selling. Content is what drives google traffic. Say if your selling legit sunglasses, make an article how to spot a ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Or if your selling phones or parts make a youtube video and article explaining how to take a phone cover off. An inventory in itself will not help really with any traffic. If you have any other websites throw in a link or two linking in each other.


Correct. :)

But emphasis on back linking. Content is good, unique content that is, but you also need a lot of high ranking back links to get your organic ranking high enough for good traffic.

Most of my sites are based on SEO. This forum is very well SEO, and it brings traffic based on YOU guys. You guys write the content on this site. :)

But PPC is a powerful tool as well, and no one is doubting that.

agatto2 11-20-2008 11:55 AM

Ok Modie ----

Your kinda talking me into the adwords campaign . I have only generated traffice via the SEO meathod. I currently get about 50 hits a day , and am selling one book a day.

You mentioned that you have become an expert on keywords, could you throw us a bone on that subject?

imthatguy 12-08-2008 06:53 PM

Dont forget about Yahoo search marketing

GREMLIN 02-08-2009 02:55 PM

Hi I've got a site that's been up about 4 months now.Originally it wasn't designed by me and was done through zencart. Things happened and i lost all the files for my website. I decided to take on the project to design the website myself. My server wouldn't allow me to upload zencart or joomla and i was messing around with the thing for like a whole day, As you said modee time is money!

I have Microsoft publisher on my laptop and decided to use it and place buy it now buttons near the products that I'm selling. The majority of my customers buy one item at a time so its practical. Anyway its up and running now and fully indexed in the search engines again.

I have added all my meta tag keywords, description and title on each page and also try to make the keywords relate to the contents of the page as this is what i read somewhere. in a earlier post in this thread someone mentioned having invisible links or keywords in your page. I thought this would penalize your site as the robots are now more intelligent and can pick this up.

Im in the process of seeing where my page ranks in the search engines for the keywords that i have used. For 4 of my products i am coming up on the 2nd page of google which i am over the moon with. But im coming up on page 2 with the actual name and model of the product. So for example you've got a Dyson vacuum cleaner- if you type in vacuum cleaner or Dyson vacuum cleaner or some other search Fraze's my site is like on page 15 or something which is no good. But if you type in the actual product and model number i will be in page 2.

Ive been trying to figure this out and i think its because i am using the model number in the title, keyword, description and content. So I'm thinking its very important to mention main keywords in all places. Maybe i come up on page 2 for this keyword because its not used that much. I mean if someone is looking for a Dyson vacuum the majority of the time their not gonna put in the model number. So i need to tweak up my meta tags and some contents.

I'm just not sure how to find keywords and what keywords to go for. I sell appliances like LCD tvs, dvd recorder, digital camcorder and home appliances in general. Is there some sort of tool i can use to generate popular keywords or is this not a good idea?

Also what kind of density are we looking for on a keyword in the content?

Ive signed up for goole adwords but not sure what to set my budget at per click. I set it up a couple of days ago for 10p a click and it hasn't given me any referrals. Is it because the bids for the appliances I'm selling need to be a lot higher? I was listed on a few shopping comparison sites and the cost per click on them was like 27p a time but it didn't really generate me a lot of traffic/sales. Is it because my budget is too low for the clicks.

My prices are very cheap so that isn't the issue. I need targeted traffic. I have about 15-20 ads targeting uk consumers and this is what brings the majority of my customers but i need to renew these everyday and would love to see some good traffic from search engines.

I have been concentrating on backilinks and have found a great site that allows you to get related backlinks its free and you can request links from other webmasters in your same niche. I have also been listing in many directories but know that the results of backlinks can take sometime.

If anyone would like a list of free directories without linking back to them then let me know, unless Aspkin doesn't mind me posting them on here. The directories range from page rank 6 all the way to about PR2 over 80 or so available.

I wanted to know if i should wait and distribute the backlinking process over a period of time instead of doing them all at once. I understand that seo is a ongoing process and requires constant updating and work. Also would it be ok to have the same description and title on all directories or should we change them? Is it ok to have the directory backlinks directing to your home page or should we use alternative pages on our websites?

The reason i ask is because i am trying to experiment with my home page and would like to use it as the main landing page for the time being and let customers navigate to my product list and around the site. So I'm trying to build all backlinks to the home page only thinking that this would get a better page ranking and will be quicker to get towards the top of the search results. I'm not sure if I'm doing this right so if I'm going about this in the wrong way then please advise.

What is the best way to work on page ranking?

Also can you recommend a website or web-page analyzer which will help us?

I know microsoft publisher generates long scripts but now ive designed the site its functioning ok and my customers don't require to log in. I know there are many advantages for customers becoming members but this is something that i cant implement at the moment. The one big problem that i find is that you dont have direct access to the html source. Also for some reason when checking my websites source with others Ive noticed that my title tag comes under the meta tags which is different from everyone else's. however the search engines are picking up the title. If anyone has any knowledge with microsoft publisher then any advise would be great.

Email marketing is deff great and will look into this. Is there such a site that gives out email address by location for people that have said its ok?

I hope you can make sense out of this, apologies if you cant

cheers

jesseinkaron 10-15-2010 02:13 PM

Hi guys,

I have been a forum member for a while now,
I recently published this article on the subject of SEO.
I welcome any feedback or comments from any of you..

SEO And Web Traffic Tips For Dummies, The Ultimate Top 10 List

holymoly 10-24-2010 06:39 PM

Xrumer is always a SEO KILLER!!! I use this...of course still learning it because there is SO MUCH to it; however, the people who use this to improve their page rank will attest for it! This thing can pop out around 200K QUALITY backlinks in a day!

123 12-11-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by holymoly (Post 176824)
Xrumer is always a SEO KILLER!!! I use this...of course still learning it because there is SO MUCH to it; however, the people who use this to improve their page rank will attest for it! This thing can pop out around 200K QUALITY backlinks in a day!

I heard scrapebox is also pretty decent nothing compared to xrumer but for the price i heard its pretty good. I was thinking about buying it but i also read it can get your site blacklisted.

First Edition 12-13-2010 04:16 PM

If you have too many back-links, will Google penalize you?

123 12-13-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 189775)
If you have too many back-links, will Google penalize you?

You can get sandboxed if its on a new domain, but theres many reasons that can contribute to getting sandboxed but no one knows for sure.

MadSam 12-13-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 189775)
If you have too many back-links, will Google penalize you?

NO WAY. I mean you don't want a link farm on your own site that's for sure, but you can never have too many backlinks pointing to your site elsewhere.

First Edition 12-13-2010 08:02 PM

123 says yes on a new domain, Madsam says NO WAY!......

??? :P

MadSam 12-13-2010 08:04 PM

There's much debate over sandboxing, if it even exists it's only on new domains and it is not permanent. Many people even find the exact opposite effect of getting sandboxed.

First Edition 12-13-2010 08:17 PM

sandboxed?

MadSam 12-13-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 189867)
sandboxed?

Read up on it: Sandbox effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I personally don't believe in it, and think it was something just invented by theorists and people who oppose black hat SEO and tools like XRumer. If it were true, every competitor would just XRumer the rest of their competition to hell and there'd be nothing left. What I've seen usually happen after major blasts, is things tend to 'Google dance' the rankings, proof that they have not been sandboxed.

First Edition 12-13-2010 08:58 PM

I see.

What does google penalize for then? I've noticed too many meta-tags, or irrelevant tags/keywords... anything else?

MadSam 12-13-2010 09:10 PM

Keyword stuffing, sure. You're only part way through AutoBlog Book but that explains it very well how autoblogs are against google policy of what content it likes to index so if it links lots of your autoblogs together you risk having them de indexed. The book shows you how to keep them from getting linked so they remain indexed.

It's mainly about site content that Google penalizes for, like also for example copyright infringement.

First Edition 12-13-2010 09:43 PM

being indexed?


On a side note.... I'd stick with MadSam.

MadSam 12-13-2010 09:46 PM

*Indexed in the search results.

123 12-13-2010 09:56 PM

Yeah I don't know for sure if sandbox is true or not, I'm relatively new to this too. But I was reading a couple people say they went from P2 to being gone from google completely for a couple of months. Who knows though probably just random guesses on why it happened. Just keep doing trial & error and see what works best.

MadSam 12-13-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 189887)
On a side note.... I'd stick with MadSam.

Look at the smiley and take a whopping guess at who wrote that...

First Edition 12-13-2010 10:12 PM

Obviously GB... haha

Etycoon 11-08-2011 08:47 PM

Can anyone share some tips about off page SEO please

Many thanks

Skys The Limit 01-15-2012 03:07 AM

I had a Google Ad word account to start my Computer Services. Never received a call in my city limts & now I know why this city is mainly of corporations that already know how to fix their own computer. thats why when I appied at staples say that their I.T. people do not have a lot of work manager is always trying to find other work they can do

So back to my google account I used a VCC since Did not get any calls didn`t pay for the clicks

Now when I open a new google as account every time they suspend me I have a New Address , New Ip Address , Used a Bank Card & I do not understand how their tracking me I`ve build a site to start Selling Anime Stuff

I called google they said my account is suspended due to me violating USER Friendly Agreement they will not tell me why :boink:

Is there something im doing to make me keep getting suspended

soopadudette 02-24-2012 10:43 AM

Do you offer SEO services aspkin?

Gamefreak 02-24-2012 08:15 PM

Second Soop.. Trying to get my new site on first page of google...

aspkin 02-24-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by soopadudette (Post 314975)
Do you offer SEO services aspkin?

Not at this time, sorry.

Send me a PM though and I can refer you to some services I've used in the past.

Christopher 03-15-2012 02:44 PM

I once read a story about a guy opening up a webstore and at first he had slow sales..but after hiring someone to manage a ppc campaign for him..he as getting about one sale every 20.00 he invested into the ppc ...where can i find a company to do something like this for me/???

golden_monkey 07-01-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Skys The Limit (Post 304559)
I had a Google Ad word account to start my Computer Services. Never received a call in my city limts & now I know why this city is mainly of corporations that already know how to fix their own computer. thats why when I appied at staples say that their I.T. people do not have a lot of work manager is always trying to find other work they can do

So back to my google account I used a VCC since Did not get any calls didn`t pay for the clicks

Now when I open a new google as account every time they suspend me I have a New Address , New Ip Address , Used a Bank Card & I do not understand how their tracking me I`ve build a site to start Selling Anime Stuff

I called google they said my account is suspended due to me violating USER Friendly Agreement they will not tell me why :boink:

Is there something im doing to make me keep getting suspended

you need.

new website - new ip - new cookies - new name - new 100% everything.

then you run the risk of that happening again all in short order. Adwords is not a friendly platform any longer, and googs customer service is pretty much piss poor and what support you do get is vague b/s answers basiclly telling you to fk off cause they don't need your $$$.

I stopped using adwords for just this very reason, and i was dumping some serious $$$$ into it.

head over to microsoft adcenter, you'll get in bing and yahoo at the same time. They have much cheaper PPC costs and you won't get jerked around for some unknown reason.

Also they have top notch customer service, you can CALL and they'll actually go over what the problem is SO YOU CAN FIX IT, and get your account running again. Its a real breath of fresh air.

goog = assholes.

ak_am 01-06-2020 12:29 PM

Re: Let's Talk SEO!
 
Hello from 2020!! :bump::juggle::juggle:

DOES anything in SEO have changed much lets compare to Year 2012..:pop2:


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