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aspkin 04-09-2007 01:58 AM

Lets Talk SEO!
 
This is what I do, forget eBay for a moment. Do you have a website? Do you need SEO advice? Start creating threads, and lets talk about it!

aspkin 04-10-2007 11:10 AM

To get your site in search engine index I guess submission will be okay. It's really a thing of the past now. Now all you have to do is get a few links to your site from an already established website, and when a search engine checks the site with your links on it pointing to your site, they'll head on over to your site as well, for the most part. Overture and Google are great ways to get paid targeted traffic. I've used them a lot in the past.

grandmastr 04-13-2007 06:13 PM

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aspkin 04-15-2007 03:25 AM

Lots of keywords in your Meta tag could be considered spam which will place penalties on that page or entire site. The thing about Meta tags is they're also a thing of the past. Google doesn't use this anymore because of its abuse. Google looks mostly at your title, your content, inbound links, your internal links, and outbound links. There's a lot there, but if you have good content, that's unique and not that much competition for it, you're pages will rank high in the search engines. If you have competition for your keywords, you'll want some page rank to help boost your ranking and better internal linking.

Look up: "aspkin ebay suspension guide" on Google. I'll be number one because the keywords being used are so unique and I'm right on for those keywords, my final eBay suspension guide is listed first.

Okay now look up, "ebay suspension guide" on Google. I'm still on the first page, but there is more competition for this keywords and thus I'm not listed first. If I wanted to rank higher I would point high pr links to this page and maybe add more content.

The more unique content the better! The less your page is like someone else's, the better. The more inbound links you have the better. The better your internal linking, which I mean every page can be basically reached from your index page within 2 clicks the better. The more static your pages are, and the less dynamic URLS you have the better. I can go on and on, this is fun stuff.

JackNoMore 05-18-2007 12:03 PM

I'm totally new to the idea of linking to other sites, inbound, outbound links, internal links, but definately interested in learning. I realize you could probably write a book on it (most likely there are some), but what are the basics? I'm looking at turning away from ebay for the future since I've noticed many a sale successful just from having a store link while ebay auctions continue to flounder along with low bids. So now that I know stores can be more successful, the object will be to get the buyers to look off ebay for my items. As I currently don't have a webpage, would it be possible to use something like Auctiva stores as a basis for your webpage until you find the time and money to create a professional looking webpage to call my own?

CPUGEEK 05-18-2007 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack (Post 3256)
I'm totally new to the idea of linking to other sites, inbound, outbound links, internal links, but definately interested in learning. I realize you could probably write a book on it (most likely there are some), but what are the basics? I'm looking at turning away from ebay for the future since I've noticed many a sale successful just from having a store link while ebay auctions continue to flounder along with low bids. So now that I know stores can be more successful, the object will be to get the buyers to look off ebay for my items. As I currently don't have a webpage, would it be possible to use something like Auctiva stores as a basis for your webpage until you find the time and money to create a professional looking webpage to call my own?

Well the problem with Auctiva stores is that your stores items kicks back to your ebay auctions. So in reality all it is is a ebay store

JackNoMore 05-18-2007 03:42 PM

I wonder if it would be possible to reroute the store to kick back to another location, whether auction or set price. Perhaps it would even be possible to have the Auctiva store and close your ebay store? I wouldn't mind paying Auctiva a nominal fee for that to "host" my wares for me. Especially if it meant not having to rely on ebay for a store.

CPUGEEK 05-18-2007 05:27 PM

I don't know if you understood Jack, but the Auctiva store isn't nothing but an Ebay store off ebay. The only items you can have in your store is the items that you have listed on ebay.

What it does is take all of your ebay items and automatically place it in your store. So whenever you sign up for auctiva and list items it get placed in your store automatically

JackNoMore 05-18-2007 06:22 PM

Ah, so it wouldn't be possible to have those items in your Auctiva store on a continual basis even when they're not on ebay? But if it's all your items for sale at one time thrown in a "store", would you even NEED an ebay "store"? That's an extra $$ per month that could be saved. If however you're talking about ONLY when you have an ebay store set up will you be able to see items in the Auctiva store, then the ebay store would be essential. Come to think of it, why would you need an Auctiva store if you have an ebay store, and vice versa?

CPUGEEK 05-18-2007 07:08 PM

Jack,

I was comparing the auctiva store to a Ebay store thats all. I didn''t mean that the your ebay store items is the Auctiva store items. Just using it as comparison..

JackNoMore 05-19-2007 10:10 AM

I've heard of Adwords but not so much the Yahoo sponsored search. Is either any more effective (or cheaper) than the other?

JackNoMore 05-20-2007 10:31 AM

Do they both run about the same price and seem to give the same exposure?

aspkin 06-04-2007 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 3296)
I don't believe SEO gives anywhere near the results of pay per click. I have two nearly identical sites. Call one Joe.com and one Jack.com Joe.com is linked to Google AdWords and YHOO Sponsored Search. Joe.com is selling like gangbusters off a budget of just a hundred bucks or so per month for pay per click.

Jack.com is running off the SEO only. Barely sells three units per month.

The difference in traffic and sales is astonishing.


SEO is a lot of work if you're doing it right. Content is king. If you have good content that's targeted to what you're selling, you will have traffic and potential buyers. The more targeted content you have the more traffic you'll have and more sales potentially. You need lots of high ranking in bound links as well to have your website rank well in the search engines. There is a lot of stuff needed if you only depend on SEO to make sales, it's not the best option to go because it takes a lot of time and effort, but it works in the long run. Google adwords are awesome. If you know what you're doing you can make a killing off them. Forget yahoo and MSN, they're a waste of time. Google is king. You should also start collecting emails from your customers and emailing newsletters to have them return to your website when you have sales, and discounts. Repeat business can be big, it is for me. There are lots of things you can do to makes sales. I love the internet!

A site of mine has no paid ads what so ever, only SEO, and other marketing tricks. It does thousands in sales everyday for years now. It's good stuff. :)

aspkin 06-11-2007 02:59 AM

I mean pay per click does any awesome job. But if you're SEO is good enough, you won't need per per click. One of my selling sites used to be nothing but pay per click, and it worked, but I was paying at the most 12k per month in ads. I simply worked harder to gain top organic positions, and created a network of traffic sites to bring in the targeted traffic and now I can save that money I used to speed in advertising in the bank. But yes, pay per click works wonders if you need targeted traffic fast. And I'm telling you, sending newsletters every week or two is awesome as well. When ever I want my sales to increase, I simply send a newsletter to my past customers, and bam I instantly have hundreds of targeted users to my site buying what ever I promote. I'm telling you modee, get your list started sooner then later. You'll thank me!

CPUGEEK 06-13-2007 06:41 PM

Pay per click is kicking me in the butt. I had to pay $18,000 in advertising fees within the last month

aspkin 07-15-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 5600)
My newer site with SEO only (no pay per click) is starting to get some nice orders.

Ha! So what did you do to build organic traffic?

aspkin 07-17-2007 04:05 PM

Aw yes, price does sale!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 5648)
Nothing at all - just metatags. Good content?

Bottom line though is that I have the lowest prices in town for this merchandise. Anyone who finds me and is a real customer will buy.


Chris Hanson 07-19-2007 03:48 PM

I thought this might help for SEO. Aspkin What do you think of this software that suppose to help with SEO. Just thought I would share it with everybody...
They even offer a professional traing SEo course.

SEO Software by Web CEO :: Search Engine Optimization Software / Complete SEO Toolkit :: Website Optimization, Promotion and Submission SEO Software

Chris Hanson 07-20-2007 12:01 AM

I guess nobody understand where I'm coming from since nobody replied.

FeeBay Balling 07-20-2007 01:34 AM

Ah HA HA... Feeling lonely chris????

aspkin 07-21-2007 05:31 PM

You don't need any software for SEO. What does the software do anyway? If it builds backlinks for you then it would help.. what else could it do?

aspkin 07-21-2007 05:37 PM

The only SEO tool you need is SEO Book.. check it out here. The creator of this book a famous for his SEO understanding and plain English guide for newbie's.

Chris Hanson 07-22-2007 12:27 PM

The software searches for keywords with less competition.

So what is backlinks?

leonid5000 07-22-2007 03:21 PM

People all you have to do is hire a professional SEO
You have to submit to 10000 of web directories build lots of links and get good PR. Once you got a good PR then google will push your keywords on top so people can find you. For example it took me to get PR6 about 12 month and i had 3 seo people work on it for hole year everyday. Some times im in top 10 in Google under my keyword and some times not. But the traffic is unbelievable. Forget about doing these by your self if you want to be sucessible.

Chris Hanson 07-22-2007 03:48 PM

Do you know of any good professional SEO?

leonid5000 07-22-2007 06:56 PM

Search Engine Optimization for dummies $19 popular book for beginers
 
download for free
RapidShare: 1-Click Webhosting

there is huge line for this book in laiberry ;)

leonid5000 07-22-2007 06:57 PM

yes i do pm me for details

aaa1 08-29-2007 11:52 AM

Let's Talk SEO!
 
Okay. So I've been working on my website. Right now some of my keywords put me on page 4. Not too bad since I've only been up for 4 weeks. So I have every page linked to every page. Started a newsletter (albeit a lame one, unfortunately I'm not a real enthusiast of the products I sell,but I'm learning. I just do it to add pages daily and to stuff it with links and keywords). Started a link exchange, but I hear they don't hold much weight anymore (question: can you googlebot nofollow your exchanged links? Not quite ethical but...) I am also looking into some permanent inbound links through some sites but it's hard to tell which ones are link farms. Do you really get punished for those? I have my hidden links, my invisible keyword gifs. . I have one other site that isn't really much of a sales sight, but for my husband's art work. I've stuffed some invisible links into there too.

Is is it better to have more products up and to have sold out on them even if you no longer have the product? Would this attract more people looking for things (and add pages), or would it turn people off?

I'd appreciate any answers to the above and any suggestions for things I might be missing. I don't want to use adwords if possible because of budgeting concerns. I'm desperate to get out of ebay! I'm spending WAY too much time trying to get back on. I need to get back to living my life!

aspkin 08-29-2007 07:46 PM

You're heading in the right direction for the most part. Though stuffing keywords isn't a good idea. Google tends to ban entire websites doing this. Link farms aren't that great either. But it is good to create as many pages you can for your site, even though products are out of stock. The more pages you have on your website the more door ways you create for visitors. Read this blog post I did a few days ago about generating traffic.

http://www.aspkin.com/how-to-generat...ffic-seo-tips/

I'll post something else on specific things you can do in a few days. If you have any questions, keep this post alive and I'll help out as much as possible. Also post your website so I can take a look at it.

Regards,

rogueseller 08-30-2007 11:57 AM

Go to goodkeywords.com and download their software, it's free. Use it to look up your keywords on the overture engine, and try to find some more specific ones from the list it gives you, that you can use for your own site. Then go to google, search for those targeted keywords, and look at the number one site. Not it's page rank, if it's less than five, you have a somewhat easier job. Look at the source code for the site, look for those targeted keywords in the header, title, bold, italics, and underline tags. They may not use all of them. Make sure that you do, and it'll help you higher up the list.

aaa1 08-30-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 8633)
. Also post your website so I can take a look at it.

Regards,

I think I posted it before, but it's www.designerbutterfly.com

I've have links with all my keywords, looks messy right now but I'm working on removing all the underlines!

It's not exactly professional right now (pages kind of vary in writing format), but I'm working on it!

When you say using too many of your keywords is bad, does that mean just random usage? If it comes with content, isn't that okay?

Thanks!

Chris Hanson 08-30-2007 04:05 PM

Nice website...

Are those bags really authentic??? and which shopping cart do you use. I see you have authorize.net

aaa1 08-30-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 8824)
Nice website...

Are those bags really authentic??? and which shopping cart do you use. I see you have authorize.net

Yes! They really are authentic, thank you mr skeptical!. They come from Italy with customs forms and everything. On a side note, my supplies broker has even told her clients to stay away from ebay because of the "WITCH HUNT"!!

My website comes with a shopping cart. You can process through paypal, authorize.net or manual merchant acount. REALLY easy to use service, $19/mo, automatically lists your stuff to froogle/google product base. LOVE IT! downside is no php or asp, but I don't really need it. I call it the Ph D website hosting company... Push Here Dummy!

Chris Hanson 08-30-2007 04:53 PM

Can I have the shopping cart name. I want to use it for my website..

The only reason i ask if they were authentic because they don't wholesale out

aaa1 08-30-2007 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 8831)
Can I have the shopping cart name. I want to use it for my website..

The only reason i ask if they were authentic because they don't wholesale out


shopping cart is verisign, but I didn't sign up through them, it just came with the website hosting company.

Some companies don't wholesale, like LV and Coach (although coach has outlets). I get them through a channel where brick and mortar boutiques in Europe buy them in MASSIVE bulks from the original manufacturers and then sells them to other vendors.

Chris Hanson 08-30-2007 05:33 PM

cool, i want the shopping cart. I like the look of it

KIMM3368 09-06-2007 09:50 AM

Hi Aaa1,

Great Website, And Chris Is Right Shopping Cart Looks Awesom. Do You Mind Me Asking Who Your Website Hosting Company Is. I Am Just Starting Out, Is It Hard To Use? I Was A Powerseller On Ebay And Got Booted Like Everyone Else Arrghh, Anyway I Do Not Want To Be Dependent On Ebay Ever Again! Any Info Would Be Appreciated, Thanks!
Kim

aaa1 09-06-2007 02:14 PM

I use macwebsitebuilder.com (I should be an affiliate!) It's advertised as for macs, but it's not really. It's for pc's too. REALLY easy to use. we call it the Ph D website... push here dummy!

stacyp 09-17-2007 01:09 PM

Nice.. I am working on my website right now but all of them are replicas. I specifically states that they are designers inspired items. Not sure how it's going to turn out. Any idea guys?

JackNoMore 09-19-2007 12:41 AM

aaa1-- how much of your layout is pre-designed by you and how much is part of the template from the host? For example, the links at the bottom of the page and in the side margin. I'm in the process of building a new website myself and not too savvy to link design layouts. Although I'll eventually be designing my own, a nice "fill in the blank" type of design would be nice for starters.


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