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thedepartedvertigo 04-06-2022 06:04 PM

Failed again don't know what to do
 
6th time getting suspended on eBay, once I list 1-2 days later I get suspended permanently, but this time I lasted 2 weeks which I way longer than my previous accounts so what is causing me to fail?

Everything I did step by step

I got a new phone and phone number. (Refurbished iPhone 7 only connected to my main phone hotspot until the sim card arrived in the mail, but never downloaded the eBay app. Carrier is boost mobile, only using to receive sms codes and call eBay.

Old laptop that got suspended on eBay before but I completely wiped it and reinstalled windows 10 and downloaded chrome

Used a residential IP, private a not blacklisted on any sites, but on whoer.net it's says im 100% anonymous and that it's a residential IP but when I got to IP burger it says im in New York ( I live im two states over) and that my IP type is hosting. Which site is right? I went 6 ip checker sites including whoer.net and 5/6 says im anonymous and I have a residential up but IP burger says im in a different state and the ip type is hosting.

Used a UPS box as an address with my business name on it and use suite instead of #123
So like:

ABC Goods
123 Main St
Suite #123

Got a Buissness Bank that has the UPS box as the address

Signed up on eBay as a business and waited a day before listed a book for $10 no stock images, and used exif cleaner. (Diary of a wimpy kid) got some views then suspended...called in they asked questions answered them then they asked do I have a supplier and I said no, that's probably really suspicious for a business but I don't I just resell stuff from Walmart, target macy's etc. After a few min they said the suspension was permanent.

So...
Did then UPS box that get me suspended?

Is it because I made a business account and waited to list, most new eBay users that make a business list immediately right? Should've I jumped straight in instead of wating.

Could I got unlucky and got a banned number?

Blacklisted IP?

Maybe the book? Such a basic thing for a business account huh?

Where did I F up? Going on 2 years of studying this forum and getting the stealth book and still don't know what I did wrong.

SaiJin 04-06-2022 08:30 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
IPburger isn't the problem. Neither is your iPhone 7.
Laptop you don't even need to reinstall windows.

What were you selling? ANd what was the message from eBay?

thedepartedvertigo 04-06-2022 10:24 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1189128)
IPburger isn't the problem. Neither is your iPhone 7.
Laptop you don't even need to reinstall windows.

What were you selling? ANd what was the message from eBay?

I didn't say IP burger was the problem I said when I checked my residential IP on 6 sites 5 of them said that I was anonymous and the up was not blacklisted. IP burger said that my IP is not a residential ip and it's located in a different state.

I listed a book Diary of a wimpy kid for $10 and the message was the generic message you when you get suspended:


Your eBay account has been permanently suspended because we noticed activity that we believe is a risk to our community.

This means the following:
- You can’t buy or sell on eBay any longer. Any other accounts that you own or that are associated with this account have also been suspended.
- Outstanding selling fees are due immediately, and any amounts that you haven’t previously disputed will be charged to the payment method we have on file.

The safety of our community is a top priority for us, so our decision to permanently suspend your account is final and can’t be appealed.

sunsets 04-06-2022 11:50 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189124)

Used a residential IP, private a not blacklisted on any sites, but on whoer.net it's says im 100% anonymous and that it's a residential IP but when I got to IP burger it says im in New York ( I live im two states over) and that my IP type is hosting. Which site is right? I went 6 ip checker sites including whoer.net and 5/6 says im anonymous and I have a residential up but IP burger says im in a different state and the ip type is hosting.

One of the best way to check if your IP is good or not is via this checker:
https://getipintel.net/
if you get a RED result there, then that's really worrisome. Let us know.

thedepartedvertigo 04-07-2022 06:11 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunsets (Post 1189131)
One of the best way to check if your IP is good or not is via this checker:
https://getipintel.net/
if you get a RED result there, then that's really worrisome. Let us know.

It's green the score was 0

rsot 04-07-2022 06:36 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189124)

Signed up on eBay as a business and waited a day before listed a book for $10 no stock images, and used exif cleaner. (Diary of a wimpy kid) got some views then suspended...called in they asked questions answered them then they asked do I have a supplier and I said no, that's probably really suspicious for a business but I don't I just resell stuff from Walmart, target macy's etc. After a few min they said the suspension was permanent.

Possibly you just had a rough eb agent

thedepartedvertigo 04-07-2022 07:09 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1189155)
Possibly you just had a rough eb agent

Probably but they don't suspended people unless something on their end look suspicious. Right?

carlosdavilla 04-07-2022 11:19 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189124)

Old laptop that got suspended on eBay before but I completely wiped it and reinstalled windows 10 and downloaded chrome

Hardware fingerprint ? :smash:

thedepartedvertigo 04-07-2022 12:21 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosdavilla (Post 1189178)
Hardware fingerprint ? :smash:

The stealth guide says to make a new windows user, so if eBay can see the hardware fingerprint that means you would have to buy a new device every time you get suspended.

SaiJin 04-07-2022 09:11 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189129)
I didn't say IP burger was the problem I said when I checked my residential IP on 6 sites 5 of them said that I was anonymous and the up was not blacklisted. IP burger said that my IP is not a residential ip and it's located in a different state.

I listed a book Diary of a wimpy kid for $10 and the message was the generic message you when you get suspended:


Your eBay account has been permanently suspended because we noticed activity that we believe is a risk to our community.

This means the following:
- You can’t buy or sell on eBay any longer. Any other accounts that you own or that are associated with this account have also been suspended.
- Outstanding selling fees are due immediately, and any amounts that you haven’t previously disputed will be charged to the payment method we have on file.

The safety of our community is a top priority for us, so our decision to permanently suspend your account is final and can’t be appealed.

you got a residential IP plan from IPburger but they are saying it s not a residential IP? What?

And stop listening to people about hardware finger print etc etc, a new windows user account has always been more than enough.

Diary of a wimpy kid is a famous book right? That could be one of the reasons.

thedepartedvertigo 04-07-2022 09:27 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1189212)
you got a residential IP plan from IPburger but they are saying it s not a residential IP? What?

And stop listening to people about hardware finger print etc etc, a new windows user account has always been more than enough.

Diary of a wimpy kid is a famous book right? That could be one of the reasons.

The residential was not from IP burger

For my items how generic do I need to get? I want to it sell to see what happens next. If I list a few t shirts, pants or what ever else that nobody is looking for I will never be able to list stuff that in the $50-$100 range because I wouldn't have sold anything.

I looked all around my house I don't have anything that's low risk that will sell. Coats, shirts, hats...name brand. Books is too high risk. I'm willing go take a loss on anything just to see what happens after it sells but, the only super low risk thing I got is a hat that retails for $50 and resell is $100 so if I try to sell it for $20 it will look real suspicious that im selling a $100 hat for $20. :rip:

ambunbun 04-07-2022 09:41 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
why did u admit that? They think your dropshipping.

thedepartedvertigo 04-07-2022 10:17 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ambunbun (Post 1189217)
why did u admit that? They think your dropshipping.

Admit that I don't have a supplier...cause they will probably ask for invoices what will I give them target receipts?

rsot 04-08-2022 04:26 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189218)
Admit that I don't have a supplier...cause they will probably ask for invoices what will I give them target receipts?

Might block even before able to sell anything

sunsets 04-08-2022 05:30 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189215)
The residential was not from IP burger

What did you say you used IP Burger? and now you're saying it was not from IP Burger? which is which?

rsot 04-08-2022 05:55 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
OP, you're not providing all your steps straight up and creating confusion for a nice discussion

thedepartedvertigo 04-08-2022 06:46 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunsets (Post 1189238)
What did you say you used IP Burger? and now you're saying it was not from IP Burger? which is which?

No, I didn't not say I used a residential from IP burger I said I checked my residential on the IP burger site where it shows your IP and location. When I im logged into my residential ip it says my type is hosting and my location is two states off.

This section here on ip burger when you scroll down.https://imgur.com/a/UCJI6OQ

My bad for creating confusion

thedepartedvertigo 04-08-2022 06:49 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1189243)
OP, you're not providing all your steps straight up and creating confusion for a nice discussion

I did not say I used a residential from IP burger I said I checked my residential on the IP burger site where it shows your IP and location. When I im logged into my residential ip it says my type is hosting and my location is two states off.

This section here on ip burger when you scroll down.https://imgur.com/a/UCJI6OQ

My residential is Ohio not New York and it says type: hosting.

My bad for creating confusion

sunsets 04-08-2022 06:53 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Okay bro no problem. So IP Burger is not involved in this, that's what matters.

thedepartedvertigo 04-08-2022 07:11 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunsets (Post 1189251)
Okay bro no problem. So IP Burger is not involved in this, that's what matters.

Yeah, but I was just saying it was the only site that gave me a different result.

thedepartedvertigo 04-08-2022 10:14 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Also, do you guys make a personal account then switch over to business or just make a business account?

Only accounts that were made after managed payments were put in place.

SaiJin 04-08-2022 12:39 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189215)
The residential was not from IP burger

For my items how generic do I need to get? I want to it sell to see what happens next. If I list a few t shirts, pants or what ever else that nobody is looking for I will never be able to list stuff that in the $50-$100 range because I wouldn't have sold anything.

I looked all around my house I don't have anything that's low risk that will sell. Coats, shirts, hats...name brand. Books is too high risk. I'm willing go take a loss on anything just to see what happens after it sells but, the only super low risk thing I got is a hat that retails for $50 and resell is $100 so if I try to sell it for $20 it will look real suspicious that im selling a $100 hat for $20. :rip:

Then I don't know what to say about your IP provider.
I kept telling people that the majority of providers out there don't give you what they say they'll give you so this could and will attribute to issues down the road.

About items if I were to do this in your shoes and I absolutely wanna go and be super anal about it, I'll find something from a dollar store and sell at $5 or even $10 . do that the first week, get good feedback, 2nd week increase the volume, 3rd week, then 4th week then 5th week still do the same but add that expensive item .

So it's a total build up that requires a lot of patience and try not to be too anxious and stressed out.

SaiJin 04-08-2022 12:40 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
On other note if you don't want to pay for a good provider like IPburger then the best thing to do is don't buy any services at all and just use your home IP.

You have the stealth guide I see , so just use the steps in there on how to change IP and make note on a pad each time that IP is used.

cpadhk07 04-08-2022 12:53 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189124)
6th time getting suspended on eBay, once I list 1-2 days later I get suspended permanently, but this time I lasted 2 weeks which I way longer than my previous accounts so what is causing me to fail?

Everything I did step by step

I got a new phone and phone number. (Refurbished iPhone 7 only connected to my main phone hotspot until the sim card arrived in the mail, but never downloaded the eBay app. Carrier is boost mobile, only using to receive sms codes and call eBay.

Old laptop that got suspended on eBay before but I completely wiped it and reinstalled windows 10 and downloaded chrome

Used a residential IP, private a not blacklisted on any sites, but on whoer.net it's says im 100% anonymous and that it's a residential IP but when I got to IP burger it says im in New York ( I live im two states over) and that my IP type is hosting. Which site is right? I went 6 ip checker sites including whoer.net and 5/6 says im anonymous and I have a residential up but IP burger says im in a different state and the ip type is hosting.

Used a UPS box as an address with my business name on it and use suite instead of #123
So like:

ABC Goods
123 Main St
Suite #123

Got a Buissness Bank that has the UPS box as the address

Signed up on eBay as a business and waited a day before listed a book for $10 no stock images, and used exif cleaner. (Diary of a wimpy kid) got some views then suspended...called in they asked questions answered them then they asked do I have a supplier and I said no, that's probably really suspicious for a business but I don't I just resell stuff from Walmart, target macy's etc. After a few min they said the suspension was permanent.

So...
Did then UPS box that get me suspended?

Is it because I made a business account and waited to list, most new eBay users that make a business list immediately right? Should've I jumped straight in instead of wating.

Could I got unlucky and got a banned number?

Blacklisted IP?

Maybe the book? Such a basic thing for a business account huh?

Where did I F up? Going on 2 years of studying this forum and getting the stealth book and still don't know what I did wrong.

Your Activity Pattern was not good. That's why you always got suspended.
You should check a few things before creating a stealth account.

Below are bad account creation practices:

1) Using IP address in a different state than the account is in.
2) Using an IP address that gets detected as a VPN/Proxy.
3) Using a phone number that is in a different state than the account is in.
4) Using OLD addresses very frequently.
5) Use the SAME phone service for every account which says: "The
subscriber you have dialed is not in service" when you call it!
6) Always listing the same items and using stock photos from Google images
or manufacturer's websites. 7) Allowing yourself to get fingerprinted with
the browser you are using to create the account, and also getting
detected as hiding/disguising your fingerprint & other identifying items
during the account creation.

Now you need to brainstorm and find a solution. I cannot disclose all method. It's against my business. I have only gave you some hints.
Sorry for my bad English.

thedepartedvertigo 04-08-2022 01:31 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1189270)
Then I don't know what to say about your IP provider.
I kept telling people that the majority of providers out there don't give you what they say they'll give you so this could and will attribute to issues down the road.

About items if I were to do this in your shoes and I absolutely wanna go and be super anal about it, I'll find something from a dollar store and sell at $5 or even $10 . do that the first week, get good feedback, 2nd week increase the volume, 3rd week, then 4th week then 5th week still do the same but add that expensive item .

So it's a total build up that requires a lot of patience and try not to be too anxious and stressed out.

Will do, ngl I've been loosing sleep over this because I will make so much more money with eBay not having an eBay is holding me back on how much I can make.

thedepartedvertigo 04-08-2022 01:34 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1189271)
On other note if you don't want to pay for a good provider like IPburger then the best thing to do is don't buy any services at all and just use your home IP.

You have the stealth guide I see , so just use the steps in there on how to change IP and make note on a pad each time that IP is used.

Ok, I will change my IP. Ngl IP burger is expensive and if I can't make a successful stealth account then it's a lot of wasted money.

thedepartedvertigo 04-08-2022 01:40 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cpadhk07 (Post 1189273)
Your Activity Pattern was not good. That's why you always got suspended.
You should check a few things before creating a stealth account.

Below are bad account creation practices:

1) Using IP address in a different state than the account is in.
2) Using an IP address that gets detected as a VPN/Proxy.
3) Using a phone number that is in a different state than the account is in.
4) Using OLD addresses very frequently.
5) Use the SAME phone service for every account which says: "The
subscriber you have dialed is not in service" when you call it!
6) Always listing the same items and using stock photos from Google images
or manufacturer's websites. 7) Allowing yourself to get fingerprinted with
the browser you are using to create the account, and also getting
detected as hiding/disguising your fingerprint & other identifying items
during the account creation.

Now you need to brainstorm and find a solution. I cannot disclose all method. It's against my business. I have only gave you some hints.
Sorry for my bad English.

Totally understand you can not tell your method, but I don't get #7 allowing yourself to get fingerprinted with the browser, what does that mean?

SaiJin 04-08-2022 01:55 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189274)
Will do, ngl I've been loosing sleep over this because I will make so much more money with eBay not having an eBay is holding me back on how much I can make.

Would you rather suffer for 1 more month maybe 2 but then have a better life or would you rather keep shooting yourself in the foot everyday for a year?

Change your mindset.

Again, if you can't afford IPburger use the stealth guide method to change your IP. You'll know when IPburger becomes a necessity.


And keep coming back here and read other people's posts.
If you really want to educate yourself of what's current I'm sure I didn't need to tell you this.

It's just how bad you want it and if you're gonna do something about it the right way

thedepartedvertigo 04-08-2022 07:48 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1189278)
Would you rather suffer for 1 more month maybe 2 but then have a better life or would you rather keep shooting yourself in the foot everyday for a year?

Change your mindset.

Again, if you can't afford IPburger use the stealth guide method to change your IP. You'll know when IPburger becomes a necessity.


And keep coming back here and read other people's posts.
If you really want to educate yourself of what's current I'm sure I didn't need to tell you this.

It's just how bad you want it and if you're gonna do something about it the right way

Thank you for the advice.

rsot 04-09-2022 06:17 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189274)
Will do, ngl I've been loosing sleep over this because I will make so much more money with eBay not having an eBay is holding me back on how much I can make.

What category of sales? Risky?

Steveo036940 04-09-2022 12:38 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
OP listed a book, so not that's not the problem. Using a UPS mailbox is a problem. Erasing data from photos is a problem. Using an iffy IP is a problem. If your business details are ⊗⊗⊗⊗, that's a problem. Ebay must know who you are, they must be able to verify you...EVERYTIME
ANYTHING that a normal person would not do is a problem...anything.
I could go to the dollar general store and pick up a $20 phone + $25 data/airtime card, activate it, add real verifiable information (name, DOB, SSN and any real home address), list a book and have a new working un-suspended Ebay account in under an hour.
OP, you're overthinking everything, just act like a normal person and you'll be fine. New people sign up and successfully operate Ebay accounts everyday not giving a single thought on technique.

thedepartedvertigo 04-09-2022 01:29 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveo036940 (Post 1189330)
OP listed a book, so not that's not the problem. Using a UPS mailbox is a problem. Erasing data from photos is a problem. Using an iffy IP is a problem. If your business details are ⊗⊗⊗⊗, that's a problem. Ebay must know who you are, they must be able to verify you...EVERYTIME
ANYTHING that a normal person would not do is a problem...anything.
I could go to the dollar general store and pick up a $20 phone + $25 data/airtime card, activate it, add real verifiable information (name, DOB, SSN and any real home address), list a book and have a new working un-suspended Ebay account in under an hour.
OP, you're overthinking everything, just act like a normal person and you'll be fine. New people sign up and successfully operate Ebay accounts everyday not giving a single thought on technique.

UPS mailbox is a problem? I have no other address and I'm not going to use an address that I don't have access to.

SaiJin 04-11-2022 06:06 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189333)
UPS mailbox is a problem? I have no other address and I'm not going to use an address that I don't have access to.

No, UPS mailbox address is fine. There are plenty of mailboxes you can rent from.

selling4life 04-11-2022 08:08 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosdavilla (Post 1189178)
Hardware fingerprint ? :smash:

The machine has a name as well. Not tge MAC address though?

SilentHill 04-12-2022 10:16 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Don't list anything for a month. Make purchases. Like a normal person.

rsot 04-13-2022 05:18 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by selling4life (Post 1189541)
The machine has a name as well. Not tge MAC address though?

Not to worry about MAC at this time

JamesNorth101 04-13-2022 05:43 AM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by selling4life (Post 1189541)
The machine has a name as well. Not tge MAC address though?

They dont track MAC addresses so that wont be an issue

thedepartedvertigo 04-13-2022 12:46 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentHill (Post 1189679)
Don't list anything for a month. Make purchases. Like a normal person.

I've been thinking is wating to list make or break your account? I've seen so many posts on the forums of people saying they waited this long or that long or didn't wait at all and have successful accounts. If a normal reseller who never touched eBay before makes an account why would they wait weeks to list? Maybe a day or two but weeks or a month?

Rageless1 04-13-2022 12:47 PM

Re: Failed again don't know what to do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedepartedvertigo (Post 1189768)
I've been thinking is wating to list make or break your account? I've seen so many posts on the forums of people saying they waited this long or that long or didn't wait at all and have successful accounts. If a normal reseller who never touched eBay before makes an account why would they wait weeks to list? Maybe a day or two but weeks or a month?

Try listing on a mobile device with mobile IP. See what result you get.


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