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Aguero 08-15-2017 04:08 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Ok. Wich is better solution for not a tech guy like me, to use a brand new phone, never used for eBay and PayPal or try to find how it USB dongle data works ?

Play 08-15-2017 04:14 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 865634)
Ok. Wich is better solution for not a tech guy like me, to use a brand new phone, never used for eBay and PayPal or try to find how it USB dongle data works ?

USB Dongle. They are much more simpler than a phone.

All you need is a Data SIM + a USB Data Dongle.

They look like this > http://bit.ly/2i3fmGq

You just plug sim in, plug USB into computer, it will install (if using it first time), then your done.

Each time you need a new IP, just unplug from USB, replug.
Some also have an interface, so you can reboot without disconnecting etc.

Overall, its the safest, easiest way forward. Takes out all the elements of risk.

Aguero 08-15-2017 04:21 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
And they are cheaper too than cell phones.
I should install it on my stealth user account in windows? I don't get how computer find the network from USB, i have used before only Wi-Fi and direct cable internet at home.

Play 08-15-2017 04:41 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 865639)
And they are cheaper too than cell phones.
I should install it on my stealth user account in windows? I don't get how computer find the network from USB, i have used before only Wi-Fi and direct cable internet at home.

When you connect USB to computer, it will install automatically. Unless a) they provide separate CD, then install from there, or b) if its plug and play, then no installation required.

You need to buy a data sim to put inside the USB dongle. It works like your phone, only difference is you can't make/receive phone calls. Just internet.

Aguero 08-16-2017 03:27 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Ok. I should install it on stealth user account. What USB dongle is better for stealth, 3G or 4G ?

Play 08-16-2017 12:33 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 865735)
Ok. I should install it on stealth user account. What USB dongle is better for stealth, 3G or 4G ?

A lot you will find are compatible with both 3G and 4G. If its says 4G compatible, its probably also compatible with 3G.

Even though you probably wont use 4G, you might as well get it incase things change in the future. The price difference isn't much either.

P.S. Usually once you install it on one account, it works on all user accounts. You dont need to reinstall per stealth account. :)

Aguero 08-16-2017 01:34 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
If i understand correct i will better buy 3G dongle to use bigger IPs pool ?
I don't know why here mobile interned is offered like 4G network.

Play 08-16-2017 02:20 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 865848)
If i understand correct i will better buy 3G dongle to use bigger IPs pool ?
I don't know why here mobile interned is offered like 4G network.

What I meant was, if you buy a 4G dongle, it should work fine with 3G. So best of both worlds, without much of a premium.

But you would use the 3G service for the bigger pool of IPs.

bailey17 08-17-2017 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 861232)
I can see your a subscribed VIP, so you've probably got the stealth guide. Read that thoroughly. If there's anything you dont understand, just ask on the forums.

Stealth is simple once you get the hang of it - it becomes common sense. But getting going can get tricky at times.

Hi I made 2 eBay accounts so far not suspended. I use a free vpn chrome extension called hoxx is this ok, or do I need a dedicated ip?

Aguero 08-17-2017 03:49 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 865870)
What I meant was, if you buy a 4G dongle, it should work fine with 3G. So best of both worlds, without much of a premium.

But you would use the 3G service for the bigger pool of IPs.

Sorry for these many questions about same thing.
Can i switch 4G dongle to 3G, because mobile interner is offered from provider as 4G ?

cool25 08-17-2017 05:12 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 860872)
If you are using the browser on the phone you don't need a totally new phone, just a new browser will do :)

The SIM isn't a problem

Do not use the eBay & PayPal APP though!

Well yeh he can use his Wifi for static IP. But what if he use his data connection ?

it can change the IP address isn't ?.

Play 08-17-2017 07:05 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bailey17 (Post 865955)
Hi I made 2 eBay accounts so far not suspended. I use a free vpn chrome extension called hoxx is this ok, or do I need a dedicated ip?

Avoid FREE VPNs. They will likely cause suspension sooner or later. Their prone to abuse.

What you want is a FRESH IP, see here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 865960)
Sorry for these many questions about same thing.
Can i switch 4G dongle to 3G, because mobile interner is offered from provider as 4G ?

You can switch between 4G to 3G and vice versa (in most cases). Check dongle manufacturers manual. It depends which you buy.

Some will refer to this as LTE ON/OFF

Aguero 08-18-2017 04:25 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 865996)

You can switch between 4G to 3G and vice versa (in most cases). Check dongle manufacturers manual. It depends which you buy.

Some will refer to this as LTE ON/OFF

Thanks. I think i found good one 4G. I will report soon :thumb:

Play 08-19-2017 07:55 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 866317)
Thanks. I think i found good one 4G. I will report soon :thumb:

Huawei branded dongles are really good (http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-broadband/e3372/)

Avoid any dongles that support IPv6. For now its just a lot simpler to stick to IPv4.

Not sure how widespread IPv6 is in your country, so I thought I'd just give you a heads up.

cool25 08-20-2017 11:31 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
SimCard doesn't matter. Ebay and PayPal can never track your Sim to fine your identity .

Just always clean your browser

Aguero 08-21-2017 12:47 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 866398)
Huawei branded dongles are really good (http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-broadband/e3372/)

Avoid any dongles that support IPv6. For now its just a lot simpler to stick to IPv4.

Not sure how widespread IPv6 is in your country, so I thought I'd just give you a heads up.

Thanks. You make my day :) I choosed provider offering absolute same dongle, and i don't know why they are offering with model name Huawei E3372S https://www.vivacom.bg/bg/residentia...l#tab-features. This model don't exist imo. I will buy it and tell how it works. :thumb:

Aguero 08-21-2017 12:51 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cool25 (Post 866698)
SimCard doesn't matter. Ebay and PayPal can never track your Sim to fine your identity .

Just always clean your browser

I read in the Stealth book that if i use separete user account in Windows it is very important to keep the browsing cookies, bacause eBay and PayPal really like them and this way i build trust. What do you mean to clean my browser ?

Play 08-21-2017 01:44 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 866807)
Thanks. You make my day :) I choosed provider offering absolute same dongle, and i don't know why they are offering with model name Huawei E3372S https://www.vivacom.bg/bg/residentia...l#tab-features. This model don't exist imo. I will buy it and tell how it works. :thumb:

That one you showed will work fine too :)

Vivacom probably just branded it with their logo. But the device is exactly the same, and works the same.

Play 08-21-2017 01:46 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 866809)
I read in the Stealth book that if i use separete user account in Windows it is very important to keep the browsing cookies, bacause eBay and PayPal really like them and this way i build trust. What do you mean to clean my browser ?

Basically each user account will be for each stealth account.

Each user, you will use the browser within it.

The browser will store cookies, and other data as you browse the web (eBay/PayPal).

The guide is just saying, make sure you don't delete this. In other words, don't do anything, and it'll be fine.

Some people clear their browsing history/cookies each time after using eBay. This can cause issues when logging in. Your just trying to avoid that from happening.

Aguero 08-23-2017 09:45 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Yes. That's the way i understand it after i read the Stealth book. And i didn't get cool25 post. May be he don't use separate user accouns. I don't know.

Aguero 08-23-2017 10:07 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 866816)
That one you showed will work fine too :)

Vivacom probably just branded it with their logo. But the device is exactly the same, and works the same.

Very good :) I will test it and share info.

Play 08-23-2017 12:52 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 867206)
Yes. That's the way i understand it after i read the Stealth book. And i didn't get cool25 post. May be he don't use separate user accouns. I don't know.

Neither did I, nor would I give it any credence. Ignore it.

Aguero 08-23-2017 01:15 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Definitely i will. I always write "imo" if i am not sure about anything.

Aguero 08-25-2017 08:31 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 862397)
You'll most likely be using IPs used by others, but that isn't an issue. You just need to ensure you don't link your accounts together using the same IPs. So keep track of them to ensure your accounts stay as isolated from one another as possible, so if one ever goes down, its minimises the risk of any others going down with it.

I.e. if i logged with IP that was used from suspended eBay/PayPal will that burn my stealth ? Because there is such posibility imo, we don't know how many people are using/used mobile internet provider's IPs pool. I remembered before years i accidently logged into my second non stealth eBay account from an IP that i was using for the first acc, only once. There was no issue, but may be i was lucky.

Today i tested the dongle E3372 /exact the same you showed me link about/ and it is pretty easy and pleasant to work with. Fast and easy plug and play.
Thank you very much for helping me with so detailed infromation and advices. :thumb: I turned it on/off few times and there was always new IP generated after this. Is this a problem that only last three digits are changing, not the whole IP ?

Play 08-25-2017 09:02 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
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I.e. if i logged with IP that was used from suspended eBay/PayPal will that burn my stealth ? Because there is such posibility imo, we don't know how many people are using/used mobile internet provider's IPs pool. I remembered before years i accidently logged into my second non stealth eBay account from an IP that i was using for the first acc, only once. There was no issue, but may be i was lucky.
Just keep a tab on it from now, and make sure your IPs used don't overlap. As for your past IPs, leave them in the past, their unlikely to cause issues so long as you keep everything 100% unique/unlinked/stealth.

Quote:

Is this a problem that only last three digits are changing, not the whole IP ?
That's fine :)

To help make accounts more unique/different, you can use a different network sim for each account.

Account A - Network A

Account B - Network B

etc. - so IP will be more different.

Aguero 08-25-2017 01:36 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Thanks.
Good idea for few account to use different networks. But if i have in the future many stealths how i will find more IPs ?

Play 08-25-2017 01:42 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 867793)
Thanks.
Good idea for few account to use different networks. But if i have in the future many stealths how i will find more IPs ?

If you stick to 3G, your very unlikely to have used all the IPs.

Once you get a feel for each network, you'll see which has more IPs.

Aguero 08-25-2017 01:56 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Today i switched 4G to 3G on dongle and i was hoping to see different or more digits changing IPs but it wasn't happened. After that i tryed with different network with my mobile phone like hotspot, it was better, last four or five digits was changing on IPs on the second network :) Here we have three major mobile operators and few smaller. May be it is better, like you said to not worry about that the whole IP is not changing. I should try.

Play 08-25-2017 03:02 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 867801)
Today i switched 4G to 3G on dongle and i was hoping to see different or more digits changing IPs but it wasn't happened. After that i tryed with different network with my mobile phone like hotspot, it was better, last four or five digits was changing on IPs on the second network :) Here we have three major mobile operators and few smaller. May be it is better, like you said to not worry about that the whole IP is not changing. I should try.

Few digits is alright, not had an issue myself. But if its just one digit, then of course switch on/off again.

Note, smaller networks are likely to be MVNO (google it if you don't know what this is). If they are, they would still get the same IPs as the bigger networks as technically its the same network.

shootemup321 08-25-2017 06:31 PM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Last night I got a new ip to make a new account and noticed only one digit changed from a previous IP I was like nope I'm not using that IP lol. I'm about to get a mifi so I can get another source of IP locations. I'm using home internet with changing MAC address only pulling IPs from 3 locations close to me so I'm kinda getting skeptical.

Aguero 08-26-2017 04:00 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 867816)
Few digits is alright, not had an issue myself. But if its just one digit, then of course switch on/off again.

This is good and i can use at this moment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 867816)
Note, smaller networks are likely to be MVNO (google it if you don't know what this is). If they are, they would still get the same IPs as the bigger networks as technically its the same network.

I am not sure are they MVNO, but if they are this will be pity, i will be in restricted area for IPs. I read about IP changing last night. If i found ISP with dynamic IP is it good for stealth ? Just to have backup solution in my mind.

Aguero 08-26-2017 04:01 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shootemup321 (Post 867850)
Last night I got a new ip to make a new account and noticed only one digit changed from a previous IP I was like nope I'm not using that IP lol. I'm about to get a mifi so I can get another source of IP locations. I'm using home internet with changing MAC address only pulling IPs from 3 locations close to me so I'm kinda getting skeptical.

How mifi will give you new source of IP locations ?

empirestate 08-26-2017 04:50 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shootemup321 (Post 867850)
Last night I got a new ip to make a new account and noticed only one digit changed from a previous IP I was like nope I'm not using that IP lol. I'm about to get a mifi so I can get another source of IP locations. I'm using home internet with changing MAC address only pulling IPs from 3 locations close to me so I'm kinda getting skeptical.

1 digit change is all you need...
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shootemup321 08-26-2017 04:54 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 867890)
How mifi will give you new source of IP locations ?

It's a different internet provider then my home so it will give different locations.

shootemup321 08-26-2017 05:37 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 867898)

This is true I just didn't want to risk it took a minute to get new one and I want mifi so I can get totally different locations so no chance of linking. Also sometimes I need to switch IP without shutting off home internet so it will be more convenient.

Aguero 08-26-2017 09:24 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shootemup321 (Post 867899)
It's a different internet provider then my home so it will give different locations.

You will order new ISP at home with mifi ? That way you will have only 1 new IP ?

Aguero 08-26-2017 09:26 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 867898)

1 digit change on IP is all we need ?

shootemup321 08-26-2017 09:53 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 867921)
You will order new ISP at home with mifi ? That way you will have only 1 new IP ?

No the mifi runs on Verizon network so it will not change my home IP I could use 2 accounts at the same time if I wanted.

I'm talking about getting a flashed mifi it's $5 a month but 3G service

Play 08-26-2017 10:47 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 867922)
1 digit change on IP is all we need ?

1 Digit is risky. Long story short, in the event eBay is comparing two accounts that may have been flagged up by you, they'll compare IP ranges. A 1 digit IP change will likely fall under the same range and more likely to link/suspend accounts.

Bottom line however, it does suffice.

Play 08-26-2017 10:48 AM

Re: Cell Phone Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 867889)
I am not sure are they MVNO, but if they are this will be pity, i will be in restricted area for IPs. I read about IP changing last night. If i found ISP with dynamic IP is it good for stealth ? Just to have backup solution in my mind.

Just do a quick Google search of the network in question - should pop right up if they are.


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