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| crunch1 | 05-11-2013 02:31 PM | Multiple accounts from the same IP let's say 3 accounts would be possible to have on 1 dynamic ip address? |
| JamesNorth101 | 05-11-2013 02:38 PM | No, not if they all have different stealth details. |
| GreenBean | 05-11-2013 05:48 PM | No.
Danger word is LINK.
Will not work
:nono: |
I am using 4 stealth accounts with same IP, no problem at all. I have diff user accounts for each paypal and ebay account. |
| AuctionsDenied | 05-11-2013 11:32 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 448501)
I am using 4 stealth accounts with same IP, no problem at all. I have diff user accounts for each paypal and ebay account. | If one goes down then all will go down. |
| JamesNorth101 | 05-12-2013 04:40 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 448501)
I am using 4 stealth accounts with same IP, no problem at all. I have diff user accounts for each paypal and ebay account. | Eventually they will all go down in one fell swoop. |
| GreenBean | 05-12-2013 05:20 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 448501)
I am using 4 stealth accounts with same IP, no problem at all. I have diff user accounts for each paypal and ebay account. | Wait until the axe falls.
One foul swoop and gone
:faint: |
| Ebayorbust | 05-12-2013 05:37 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 448501)
I am using 4 stealth accounts with same IP, no problem at all. I have diff user accounts for each paypal and ebay account. | FAIL.
Did you do this on purpose or were you unaware that you would be linking all four accounts together? |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 448501)
I am using 4 stealth accounts with same IP, no problem at all. I have diff user accounts for each paypal and ebay account. | The issue is linking. You may or may not go down but yes, if one goes down - it CAN be that all will follow. Nothing is 100% with pp/eb - that being said, you want to miminize the risk of take down.
Regardless of whether you care about linking or not. |
| crunch1 | 05-12-2013 09:15 AM | How to register another pp account, ip address problem Well I have 1 pp legit with no problems registered on a cable dynamic IP but I will need at least another 2, i have 2 mobile Internet devices, but I have a problem, these are changing ip like 191.161.xxx.xxx and 121.381.xxx.xxx more than a normal dynamic ip, what can I do and use? |
That is good - you can use all IPs if changing - keep a track on which one you use per account.
ipburger.com helps to see your ip. |
| Dmshark25 | 05-12-2013 09:40 AM | You need to create separate user ids for each stealth account 1 ebay / 1 Paypal per user ID to keep cookies separate, it's. good to have cookies from ebay and Paypal they like that rather than wipe all cookies between accounts this is done by separate user ID
2. You must change your IP between accounts this is I think the easiest way to link accounts by using same IP and always keep a log of all IPS so u dont ever use same ip across multiple accounts. By logging on with the same ip on different accounts may not shut you down by doing this once say by accident but if u don't quickly change IPS AND if u continue logging into same ip over multiple accounts u WILL BE LINKED and this will happen Quickly
So separate user accounts for each ebay/Paypal stealth and different ip for each stealth account, there area my other factors but these two steps are a must and are the easiest way to get LINKED
ALWAYS USE a new working phone number and new personal info on diff accounts. Never use same bank, cc, address , etc
Each account needs to be totally independent of each other no links.
Read the ebay stealth guide and really learn and understand it before wasting time and money by trial and error, these are some key factors above in linking but the stealth guide will cover everything |
| crunch1 | 05-12-2013 09:49 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 448632)
That is good - you can use all IPs if changing - keep a track on which one you use per account.
ipburger.com helps to see your ip. |
The problem would be that the first triple X like 191.161.xxx.121 for eg, are repeating very hard |
| crunch1 | 05-12-2013 09:53 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmshark25
(Post 448635)
You need to create separate user ids for each stealth account 1 ebay / 1 Paypal per user ID to keep cookies separate, it's. good to have cookies from ebay and Paypal they like that rather than wipe all cookies between accounts this is done by separate user ID
2. You must change your IP between accounts this is I think the easiest way to link accounts by using same IP and always keep a log of all IPS so u dont ever use same ip across multiple accounts. By logging on with the same ip on different accounts may not shut you down by doing this once say by accident but if u don't quickly change IPS AND if u continue logging into same ip over multiple accounts u WILL BE LINKED and this will happen Quickly
So separate user accounts for each ebay/Paypal stealth and different ip for each stealth account, there area my other factors but these two steps are a must and are the easiest way to get LINKED
ALWAYS USE a new working phone number and new personal info on diff accounts. Never use same bank, cc, address , etc
Each account needs to be totally independent of each other no links.
Read the ebay stealth guide and really learn and understand it before wasting time and money by trial and error, these are some key factors above in linking but the stealth guide will cover everything | now this I am calling faq, very helpful, in my country paypal don't ask for phone number verification, I have 3 different computers, 1 cable dynamic ip address linked to my official paypal, and 2 mobile Internet devices with the problem that I am catching ooo. ooo. xxx. ooo those triple X the same, very very hard |
| Sandy D | 05-12-2013 01:16 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 448501)
I am using 4 stealth accounts with same IP, no problem at all. I have diff user accounts for each paypal and ebay account. | Do you have access to different IPs?
If so why do all this work and watch them all go down within seconds together?
You might stay lucky for a while but if you have access to different IPs this can be avoided. You are just asking for the "link clerks" at ebay and pp central to get their bonus money for taking down 4 accounts at one time.
:eek: |
| crunch1 | 05-12-2013 01:50 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 448692)
Do you have access to different IPs?
If so why do all this work and watch them all go down within seconds together?
You might stay lucky for a while but if you have access to different IPs this can be avoided. You are just asking for the "link clerks" at ebay and pp central to get their bonus money for taking down 4 accounts at one time.
:eek: |
I have but these are mobile Internet connections with a high country range, i can be now here, after that in a 1k km distance, and Paypal won't like this, i bet that, and on the cable ip I can't make another account cause I have my genuine one.
And i desperately need at least 2 pp accounts.
Plus I have all documents for another 2 pp accounts, for confirming everything, even for lifting limits |
Quote:
Originally Posted by AuctionsDenied
(Post 448544)
If one goes down then all will go down. | Already one went down like 8 months ago for a mistake I made, and all the others are fine. I guess the IP is not as important outside the US, from where I am using these accounts.
Also I have dynamic IP, it changes every 3 or 4 weeks. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by crunch1
(Post 448639)
The problem would be that the first triple X like 191.161.xxx.121 for eg, are repeating very hard | Even if 1-2 digits are different - that's a new IP for the account...keep rest of operations nice and linkfree too |
| GreenBean | 05-21-2013 06:33 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by crunch1
(Post 448708)
I have but these are mobile Internet connections with a high country range, i can be now here, after that in a 1k km distance, and Paypal won't like this, i bet that, and on the cable ip I can't make another account cause I have my genuine one.
| Sandy was replying to another user, not you. Her reply was to Chip. |
| ocmajid | 07-02-2013 01:32 AM | I thought a dynamic IP address changes every time you reset the modem and router.
So wouldn't 3 accounts on 1 Dynamic IP address work if you reset your modem/router before using each account? Or do dynamic IP address spit out common IPs which make it not possible to use 1 Dynamic IP address? |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-02-2013 03:07 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by ocmajid
(Post 463944)
I thought a dynamic IP address changes every time you reset the modem and router.
So wouldn't 3 accounts on 1 Dynamic IP address work if you reset your modem/router before using each account? Or do dynamic IP address spit out common IPs which make it not possible to use 1 Dynamic IP address? | Not the case all the time, depending on the lease on the IP address your ISP has assigned to your MAC address
Some routers you have to go into and manually change the MAC address for a new IP. Sometimes this is not possible, so other methods must be used, like a dongle. |
| rio382 | 07-02-2013 05:11 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by crunch1
(Post 448708)
I have but these are mobile Internet connections with a high country range, i can be now here, after that in a 1k km distance, and Paypal won't like this, i bet that, and on the cable ip I can't make another account cause I have my genuine one.
And i desperately need at least 2 pp accounts.
Plus I have all documents for another 2 pp accounts, for confirming everything, even for lifting limits | set up a cheap vps hosting service, not a VPN. |
Use a nice excel log (available around the forums) to track your IPs should you wish.
Link is around - use search. |
| GreenBean | 07-02-2013 10:26 AM | |
| ocmajid | 07-02-2013 02:35 PM | Confused Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 463981)
Not the case all the time, depending on the lease on the IP address your ISP has assigned to your MAC address
Some routers you have to go into and manually change the MAC address for a new IP. Sometimes this is not possible, so other methods must be used, like a dongle. | Okay so if I pay for Cable internet service and I have 1 Dynamic ip address.
I change the Router Mac address to get a new IP address.
It's Safe to use multiple accounts?
Or does my Cable ISP spit out similar dynamic addresses thats not Safe for multiple accounts?
I'm confused. Does IP addresses change indefinitely when changing the MAC address on the router or do they vary like 10-15 different ones making it unfit for using with 3-4 accounts ... ? I have confirmed that I don't have a Static IP. |
Power down your MODEM - wait a bit and restart - you will get your new IP to use for your other stealth accounts. |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-03-2013 05:01 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by ocmajid
(Post 464167)
Okay so if I pay for Cable internet service and I have 1 Dynamic ip address.
I change the Router Mac address to get a new IP address.
It's Safe to use multiple accounts?
Or does my Cable ISP spit out similar dynamic addresses thats not Safe for multiple accounts?
I'm confused. Does IP addresses change indefinitely when changing the MAC address on the router or do they vary like 10-15 different ones making it unfit for using with 3-4 accounts ... ? I have confirmed that I don't have a Static IP. | Make a not of IP address
Log into router settings
Change MAC address - Click Apply - Wait for it to apply
Turn off modem - Wait 10 seconds - Turn modem on
Wait to be reconnect to the internet
Take a note of new IP - If its different your good to go.
Generally an ISP will have thousands of IP addresses assigned to them, so you should have a diverse range. Rule of thumb is the bigger the company the larger the range.
So long as you keep a track of the IP, your fine. If you come across an IP that you have used before, just repeat the above process and you will get another IP. Check this IP has not been used before |
| AuctionsDenied | 07-03-2013 05:26 PM | @ocmajid
This should work in changing the IP address Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 464555)
Make a not of IP address
Log into router settings
Change MAC address - Click Apply - Wait for it to apply
Turn off modem - Wait 10 seconds - Turn modem on
Wait to be reconnect to the internet
Take a note of new IP - If its different your good to go.
Generally an ISP will have thousands of IP addresses assigned to them, so you should have a diverse range. Rule of thumb is the bigger the company the larger the range. | The key here is to track your addresses. Quote:
So long as you keep a track of the IP, your fine. If you come across an IP that you have used before, just repeat the above process and you will get another IP. Check this IP has not been used before
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| desikanjar | 07-03-2013 06:26 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by crunch1
(Post 448425)
let's say 3 accounts would be possible to have on 1 dynamic ip address? |
by dynamic you mean your ip changes every time you restart modem? |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-03-2013 06:35 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by desikanjar
(Post 464570)
by dynamic you mean your ip changes every time you restart modem? | Not as simple as that these days because you can now get a sticky dynamic IP where the lease on the IP assigned to the MAC address does not expire when the router is turned off.
Means you would have to turn off the router for a few hours to get a new IP. This is where changing the MAC address comes in. Saves having to wait the few hours. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 448692)
Do you have access to different IPs?
If so why do all this work and watch them all go down within seconds together?
You might stay lucky for a while but if you have access to different IPs this can be avoided. You are just asking for the "link clerks" at ebay and pp central to get their bonus money for taking down 4 accounts at one time.
:eek: | One went down over a year ago, and the others still work. I have dynamic IP, that means it changes every 10 or 15 days I guess...but I login to my different accounts without changing the IP address.
Now, since I am outside the US, my theory is that PP/EB does not track IPs when you login from another country. And I have PP/EB accs from the US, Peru and Uruguay.
Would like to hear about the experiences from non-US accounts members. Do you think EB/PP tracks your IPs? |
| JamesNorth101 | 08-10-2013 01:16 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 475839)
One went down over a year ago, and the others still work. I have dynamic IP, that means it changes every 10 or 15 days I guess...but I login to my different accounts without changing the IP address.
Now, since I am outside the US, my theory is that PP/EB does not track IPs when you login from another country. And I have PP/EB accs from the US, Peru and Uruguay.
Would like to hear about the experiences from non-US accounts members. Do you think EB/PP tracks your IPs? | They absolutely will track your IP's
So your saying you have made a US PP and EB and run it from an IP outside the US?
How long has this account been alive.... |
| fuggles | 08-10-2013 02:35 PM | This works from personal experience.
My household has 3 family members using the same computer, same IP, no problems.
The problems arise when one is banned,
and another user tries to sell a similar item that a banned user was linked to. |
| GreenBean | 08-10-2013 05:14 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 475839)
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Would like to hear about the experiences from non-US accounts members. Do you think EB/PP tracks your IPs? | You are sounding like a broken record
IPs are tracked by PayPal and by eBay
Users have had their accounts limited by PayPal for using a foreign IP
eBay has asked users to confirm their ID when a strange IP has been used
Stop implying otherwise.
As you have been told before, your method of operating is flawed
You may have troubles and lose accounts
In other words, LISTEN, when you are being offered the reasons to not operate in the way you are
:nono::rip::nono: |
| GreenBean | 08-10-2013 05:16 PM | @Chip
Users from Asia,Europe,Australia and other parts of South America have reported these issues
The IP was given as the problem
:argue: |
Quote:
Originally Posted by fuggles
(Post 475878)
This works from personal experience.
My household has 3 family members using the same computer, same IP, no problems.
The problems arise when one is banned,
and another user tries to sell a similar item that a banned user was linked to. | Hope you have made the right changes fuggles since being on this forum :) |
| amysol | 08-12-2013 01:31 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 448501)
I am using 4 stealth accounts with same IP, no problem at all. I have diff user accounts for each paypal and ebay account. | how do you know they are not linked? |
| JamesNorth101 | 08-12-2013 01:57 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by amysol
(Post 476454)
how do you know they are not linked? | Chip doesnt know that. They are linked without a doubt, they have just not yet need shut down.
If one goes, they all go |
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 476466)
Chip doesnt know that. They are linked without a doubt, they have just not yet need shut down.
If one goes, they all go | As I said, some of my accs already went down. No problem at all for the other accounts.
I am not saying this is the right way to do it. But so far, had multiple accounts, like 3 went down in the last year and the others (2 year old accs) are fine. I even added a new one with no problem. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by amysol
(Post 476454)
how do you know they are not linked? | 3 went down and the other ones are running fine so far. All are like 2 years old.
In 2009 or 2010 (I can't remember) I had 5 PP accounts. One in Spain, one in Costa Rica, two in the US and one in Peru. All on the same PC and the same USER!!! (That was before I found this excellent forum!)
When the Spain account went down, in a matter of one week they shut down all my other accounts. They where all linked but I guess for the cookies rather than the IP.
So, I opened other accounts with different names and addresses but yes, the same PC and USER. For sure the IP was different (I have dynamic IP) and guess what...they shut my accounts within days!!
Finally, thanks to this Forum, I created separate users for each account...and they worked happily ever after :-)
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