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Originally Posted by Twocoolt (Post 1009889)

I use VMware on my regular desktop each VM has its own dedicated fresh IP separate from my regular IP. No need to have a separate server in my opinion.

Originally Posted by tablain (Post 1010098)

I have 2 query with you.



1) How many VMs run simultaneously ?

2) How you suppose to access them when on roaming ?

Originally Posted by Twocoolt (Post 1010113)

I access one at a time but you should be able to run several VMs at the same time.

I am using my home high speed internet. There is no roaming since I’m not using cellular data.

Originally Posted by tablain (Post 1010259)

Yes, with 1 machine its ok but when you run multiple as i said 10+ you need cloud to run them simultaneously to smooth operate.

coz each machine require RAM to run.



Another its good for you coz operate from home PC only, But when we need to move one place to another then we need remote access.



We can make remote access to home PC too but still 1st point stay.



More suggestion are welcome.

Originally Posted by Twocoolt (Post 1010260)

Another thing you can do is if you have your main computer house your VMs and you use TeamViewer to remote in from another PC. I am wanting to start running multiple VMs at once and that is how I will do it.

Originally Posted by Twocoolt (Post 1010260)

Another thing you can do is if you have your main computer house your VMs and you use TeamViewer to remote in from another PC. I am wanting to start running multiple VMs at once and that is how I will do it.

Originally Posted by backamblock (Post 1012427)

Okay, got some ideas for you..



Chrome Remote Desktop instead of Teamviewer. easy to setup and access from any device, fast and free.



Not use Windows virtual Machines, but either Windows contaners, or Linux LXC containers you save 80% resources that way if you are limited in CPU and RAM



enable deduplication between your Guest OS Virtual Storages, you will save Storage cost on every file that exists more than once, like your Guest OS



ALWAYS use virtIO drivers for the VM guest Hardware (install inside VM) and RAM + CPU ballooning --> see Proxmox Wiki for Download, also usable in VBox



If you have root access and install Proxmox, use Spice (virt-viewer) instead of Chrome RDP for local access



Skip the whole plan with your 20 VMs, too much overhead, Resources, Energy and Cost(!!), invest the time in sourcing a good Proxy Provider (not vpn) and Build a fingerprinted Browser yourself with some automation software and automate the whole thing. will run on 1c/2gb smoothly (including windows 1gb of ram and 3-400mb free) or just use sphere browser or different browser profiles with proxy addon, one VM per account is much overkill..



For my own setup, i have xeon e5-2690v2 (10c/20t), 64gb ram, 1tb nvme raid 10.

Proxmox PVE



It runs 1 Jarvee VM 4c/4gb/32gb(15 free)

5 Automation VMs 8c/8gb/50gb (lots of cached chrome browser profiles there)

1 Nextcloud (4c/4gb)

1 extra MySQL (4c/8gb/32gb) for managing communication between VMs

1 extra only for making backups from shared VM NAS

1 extra as workstation (16c/16gb), the other stuff uses so much less than i expected



i know that CPU cores and RAM added together don't match with the server specs, that is ballooning, it shifts resources to the VM who needs it.. the 8c/8gb are not reserved and assigned, but rather a "maximum allowed" value, which is almost never even close to be needed



Conclusion after 6months uptime: less cores -> average CPU utilisation is 5-7% and there is a LOT of automation stuff running on there, i even use it as workstation

ram is okay -> 32 of the 64gb is cache for ZFS

nvme's are too slow, there are too many random reads and writes with the browser profiles, especially when VMs backup once a night i got so much delay it feels like an old hdd... on 2x2 raid10 nvme!



Also, the Jarvee and automation VMs could easily be downgraded to 1c/2gb, but i let them as is in case i program directly inside them



hope that helps for your decision

Originally Posted by tablain (Post 1012479)

So i assume in short for many VMs ( 20+) online server is best option compare to home pc.
Reason: you can get good hardware and easy to access from anywhere.

Now my point is:
Using below configuration,
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670
Cores: 2x 8x 2.60 GHz (Dual Eight Core)
128 GB RAM
2x 1 TB SSD (Hardware RAID 1)
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Paying USD 115 / month

Am i paying overprice or good one.
What is your server and configuration ?

Originally Posted by Twocoolt (Post 1012450)

Too complicated backamblock.


Rsot, I agree.

Originally Posted by backamblock (Post 1012534)

the price you get for this hardware looks very good tho, if you want to expand later it is a good server :)


what host OS are you using?
what guest OS are you using?
how many Browser tabs will you have open in one VM?

Originally Posted by run and shoot (Post 1012825)

Just use firefox portable on the server
no need to for vms

Originally Posted by tablain (Post 1012819)

Host OS: Windows 2012 R2 Server
Guest OS: Win 7 ( 20gb HDD, 2 GB RAM )
Each VM open 2-2 tabs ( paypal+gmail+1)

I am thinking to have guest OS on linux to save more but unfortunately IPBurger software doesn't support linux yet.

Around 35VMs are running as of now+few remote connection.
Out of 128GB RAM using 62% while CPU at 2% only.

Originally Posted by run and shoot (Post 1012825)

Just use firefox portable on the server
no need to for vms