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Kameleo
 

Hello,
There is this program called Kameleo. It is similar to Multilogin and better in many ways. It helps you create unlimited number of profiles locally. Each profile has a different fingerprint than the other, so you can avoid being linked.

It spoofs everything naturally unlike many other solutions out there. For example, they don't add noise to spoof the canvas, instead is is spoofed naturally. So you will not receive a 100% uniqueness on Browserleaks.com. Moreover, the canvas will be spoofed to match the chosen user agent for the profile. So if you choose to use Windows 10 and FireFox in the profile, the canvas will be spoofed in such a way that Browserleaks.com will tell you that you're most likely using Windows and FireFox when you check your canvas.

It also naturally spoofs WebGL. It gives you a natural WebGL vendor and renderer when checked on Browserleaks.com. It uses normal looking Chrome and FireFox browsers (the browser icons are exactly the same as normal), so it will not look like you have ⊗⊗⊗⊗d something if you need to send a screenshot. Other solutions use Chromium or totally modified browsers with different browser icon, which can make you look suspicious if you're asked to send a screenshot.

Kameleo also spoofs the other parameters such as matching your WebRTC's public address to your proxy's IP and changing your WebRTC's local address as well. You can also choose the system language, the OS, the browser type and its version. It can spoof the fonts and browser extensions automatically as well. It also lets you choose the correct time zone for your profile as well as the GPS coordinates. It lets your SOCKS5 proxy handle DNS to avoid DNS leaks. It also lets you link each profile to a certain proxy. It works well with 911.re proxies. They always update the app and add new features/fixes. They even support browser automation. They have many guides on their website as well as their YouTube channel. You can learn more about it here:
https://kameleo.io
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy_...X7kd1V-8BR81OA

So after that brief introduction, I'm wondering if anyone is interested in purchasing the software with me. Unfortunately, the price is not very convenient for me. I can't pay $60 every month to continue using the software. These programs are priced high because they're usually used by carders, but I'm not a carder and I can't afford to pay $60 a month for a browser! I plan to use it to maintain several accounts on some platforms to avoid being banned.

If we can make a group of 6 people, we can purchase a subscription together so that we each have to pay $10 a month to continue using the software, and I'd be comfortable with paying that amount.

Although Kameleo says that if you login from two different devices, one of them will be logged out, it's really not that big of a deal as I gave it a try myself. So basically even if it detects that someone else logged in, it will not close the profiles that you're already working on. It will only give you a warning. Actually, you will receive that warning even if you don't share your account with others, only by letting your device sleep and lose internet connection. The app checks every once in a while to make sure that it can still access Kameleo servers and make sure that your subscription has not expired, so when you lose internet access or your device goes to sleep, it is very likely that you will receive the same warning. As long as the warning does not cause your profiles to be closed, so no big deal. You finish your work on those profiles, then you save the cookies. And you login again if you want to generate new profiles.

And what's really important to know is that Kameleo saves your profiles locally in files usually less than a MB each. This means that no one and not even Kameleo know what you browse with the software. So even if multiple users share the same login credentials, their workflow will not be mixed in any way. I will not know which profiles you generated or what you used them for. Saving the profiles locally also means that you can easily share the profiles with someone else by sending them the file.

So let me know if you're interested in sharing a purchased subscription. Thank you for your time!

Re: Kameleo
 

The product is dog sh1t and doesn't work.

I tested it with a small batch of accounts several months ago. Every single one got linked and suspended.

Save your time and money and avoid.

Re: Kameleo
 

Hello, thanks for your reply. I'm curious to know how you used Kameleo that lead you to be banned. Did you use different residential proxies for the profiles? Did you make sure that you had no DNS leak or WebRTC leak on any of the profiles? Had you set the correct time zone for every profile? It is recommended to visit a couple of sites after creating every profile to make sure that everything checks out, such as "whatleaks.com", "browserleaks.com" and "whoer.net". If you had done everything correctly, I'm not sure how you could have been linked. Maybe you created the accounts all around the same time and did similar activities on them that got them linked? Maybe you used the same device to open emails from all the accounts?

If you had no success with Kameleo, what method do you use now and does it work? I personally can't find a software better than Kameleo for what it does. Even virtual machines don't look very successful to me. A WebGL test can tell if you're using a virtual machine because they don't use real video cards, they use virtualized ones. Besides, all the virtual machines will have the same screen resolution assuming you use them all in full screen mode. All of them will have the same set of fonts. It's also difficult to download another ISO image just to change the system language.

I'd be happy to see what you use now if you think Kameleo was what lead you to failure.

Re: Kameleo
 

I'm not really wanting drawn into a discussion or debate on the subject. I set up a test batch of 30 accounts. All were suspended at the same time on the same day.

If you feel it works for you then crack on with it.

Both myself and two other account sellers have tried it. We all got the same results ie linked accounts and suspensions.

Re: Kameleo
 

Thanks for the information. Since you don't want to provide more info, I can't know for sure if it was Kameleo's fault or your fault to have your accounts linked and banned.

If Kameleo didn't work for you, were you able to succeed creating 30 accounts simultaneously using another method other than Kameleo? Don't you think creating 30 accounts all at the same time is suspicious enough regardless of the method used? And by the way, turning off Selenium is recommenced for these cases, which I believe you didn't do. And I read on some other thread that eBay can link your accounts through email beacons if you don't disable downloading of images in Gmail. Assuming that you opened the emails all on one device, that could have linked your accounts, too. Maybe you didn't use residential proxies? Maybe you used the same VPN to setup all accounts? Maybe they all shared the same DNS? I really don't know how you went about doing it, but I would be happy to be proven wrong if Kameleo isn't effective enough.

Re: Kameleo
 

SirTrader, just for your informations, all senior members in here, and and genearally any stealth expert, can easily open 30+ accounts with no problem and keep them unlinked.
This is the purpose of "stealth" tecnique and this forum.

Your posts look to me like a Kameleo promotional which we really do not need.

Re: Kameleo
 

Yes. Easily.

Like I said, I'm not here to debate it with you. If Kameleo works for you, go for it, but as has already been suggested, it sounds more like you work for Kameleo. ;)

Re: Kameleo
 

https://www.aspkin.com/forums/everyt...ice-avoid.html

Just save yourself the headache and dont use it

Re: Kameleo
 

I'm not a Kameleo representative or associated with them in any way. I have researched similar softwares for quite some time and find theirs more compelling. I would like to find a few others who think the same so that we can share a subscription together, that's all. Meanwhile, I would be happy to hear other opinions. But refusing to give more details just explains that Ebayorbust either doesn't want to show their methods, which is alright, or that Kameleo actually works well, and that he wants to prevent people from learning the right technique? Anyway, that's none of my business. I would expect a little bit more respect from you guys in general anyway. Accusing me of working for Kameleo? Really? All I want is a cheap subscription. If I worked for them, I wouldn't have to worry about getting a cheap subscription. If any of you can give me that "dog sh1t" for free, I would highly appreciate it :)

And by the way, I'm not saying that maintaining 30 stealth accounts is not possible, but creating them all on the same day and doing similar activities on them? Anyhow, I would be interested to learn how exactly Ebayorbust used Kameleo to get his accounts banned. If he did everything correctly, I would then assume it could have been Kameleo's fault. But he gives no information as to how he created 30 accounts using Kameleo and got them banned.

I think many users here use different Windows user accounts or multiple instances of FireFox Portable or FireFox Multiple User Accounts or different virtual machines to go about doing stealth. While I don't disagree with those methods entirely, it is important to keep in mind that they're all tied to the same hardware, which could get you linked eventually. Same video card, same WebGL, same screen resolution, same OS, possibly same browser versions, same set of fonts, canvas fingerprint, audio-context, etc...

I would appreciate more in-depth answers from you instead of pushing new members away and accusing them. Thank you.

Re: Kameleo
 

Or use it and learn from the loss that'll ensure. Either one will do nicely. :juggle:

Re: Kameleo
 

Coincidental indeed. I've been researching Kameleo and similar softwares for quite some time now. I've been contacting my close friends to try and convince them to buy a subscription with me to cost less, but they were all after free options. I agree that the cost is not worth it for what I need it for, and that's why I wrote this thread. I'd like to find other members who are interested to buy a subscription with me, that's all. I saw the post by slokor and disregarded it for the most part as he hadn't provided enough evidence against them. He complained that they don't support IE, but is that even important? He says that he constantly ran into captcha checks. Maybe he did not turn off Selenium? He says that Kameleo leaks information without giving any further details? What gets leaked and whose mistake is it? Then he complains about their customer support that they didn't refund him for his double payment that was made in mistake. I do agree that Kameleo shouldn't have been mean and refunded him for that, but I would also expect him to have been more careful about his payment.

Anyway, I'm quite surprised I'm being welcomed with such hostility on this forum. I feel like most senior members here actually do use Kameleo but they hide it and fight it to make it seem otherwise. I'm not after the senior members who might already be using the software to create accounts and sell them here. I'm after regular members who would like to use the software but they can't afford it like me, so that we can share a subscription together.

So thank you, I do not want any more false stories getting thrown at me by senior members. If you have real evidence against Kameleo, please share. Otherwise, do not publish false stories to steer away unexperienced members! If I can find a few people interested to buy the software with me, that's all I want. I'm not here to endorse Kameleo. If I was very happy with them, I wouldn't have come here complaining of their PRICE! The last thing I would expect from this forum was for some SENIOR members to come bluff at me! Well, thanks. That's not what I wanted. I'm here to find a few other members who are interested to buy the software so that we can purchase it together to cost less. I can not afford to pay $60/month to use the software because I am NOT an account seller like many of the SENIOR members here who sell each account for a few hundred dollars. So thank you, I do not want your biased *advice* on the matter!

Re: Kameleo
 

Sellers are just quite busy and are not going to spend hours putting together evidence to convince you to not use something.

They have told you that they personally do not like it and it doesnt work for them. Given that the sellers here between them make hundreds of accounts a month we can assume they know how to do it pretty well by now

They are sharing their thoughts, but if yow want to go ahead and use it anyway that isnt a problem. If you get limited though and do end up wasting a lot of time you did get warned.

RE sharing the cost - I expect Kameleo with having something in place to combat that a lot like Multilogin does (which is also dreadful for stealth in my experience)

Re: Kameleo
 

Yeah very coincidental that OP shows up a couple of days after I posted about Kameleo with all the 'professional' and 'technical' knowhow of how its supposed to work.
You 'don't have enough info to determine if it was Kameleo's fault'? really? and youre NOT a representative of kameleo's? I almost crapped my pants when I read that one.
Kameleo is garbage. The product itself is garbage and customer service is garbage.
If youre truly being honest about it OP then save yourself the money and hassle and move on. And if you ARE a Kameleo rep - then just do us all a favor and piss off back under your rock.

Re: Kameleo
 

Thanks for your input. I have seen many in-depth interactions on other threads where the "busy" sellers actually had time to explain. So I was hoping the sellers would care to elaborate a little more? Anyway, that's not the problem here.

Regarding sharing the cost, I have already explained that in my original post. The username and password is just a key to access the software. Profiles and settings are not saved online, it all stays on your computer. And they don't have a policy to ban you for sharing your login. All they do is show a warning that multiple connections were detected, but this will not interfere with your work. It's not like it will forcefully close the opened profiles on you. You can still continue your work on the currently opened profiles. But to generate new profiles, you will have to re-login, that's all.

Re: Kameleo
 

Thank you for your kind words. Would you instead care to explain how Kameleo failed you? Trust me, I would like to be proven wrong and I would like you to recommend to me something that actually works. I surely do not want to make the same mistake as you did, but if I don't know what you did, then how can I avoid it? I do appreciate your warning if you're being honest that Kameleo doesn't work, but would you be kind enough to elaborate? I'm here to learn anyway. I will appreciate your time if you decide to explain. And no, I'm not a Kameleo rep. Can you all please stop that? Thank you.

Re: Kameleo
 

Have you read Slokor thread about it? That outlines a fair few of the issues

Truth be told though your sound like your looking for someone to give you the answer you want and say go ahead and use it. So go ahead and use it. You may find it works for you.

$60 should be easily absorbed by selling on a few accounts.

If you want to find out first hand if it does or doesnt work - just give it a go.

Re: Kameleo
 

Yes, I have already read Slokor's post about it as mentioned multiple times, but he did not share any crucial info. All he complained about was the lack of support for IE (which is not really important), the appearing of captchas (but we don't know if he disabled Selenium or not) and complaining of their customer service that they didn't refund him his double payment made in mistake. I guess he was just too frustrated with that, and I get it. He did mention that Kameleo seems to "leak" info, but again we did not hear any more details on that. That's actually what I'm most curious about to know. What is it exactly that gets leaked by Kameleo?

Re: Kameleo
 

As Jamesnorth stated - read my thread. It sums it up.
But then again - you DID read my thread. And responded to it - saying I was "a part of a small suspicious group" no less. Rude don't you think? And youre NOT a Kameleo rep? Give me a break!
Want a recommendation for something that works? here it is: separate windows user accounts. FREE. EFFECTIVE. FOOLPROOF.
If you really are not a Kameleo rep you better watch the way you talk to other members here cause youre coming across as a total douche - and a rude one at that.

Re: Kameleo
 

That about sums it up

Re: Kameleo
 

You won't. No one is going to purchase software that will ruin their chances of creating a stealth account.
I wouldn't use it even if you bought me a free lifetime subscription.



You somehow know all the things slokor didn't do right or should have done differently even though you're only just trying the software yourself. You're definitely not affiliated with Kameleo.


Where can I find a drug to make me so delusional? :shocked:



You seem to have done a lot of damage to Kameleo on this thread yourself. Shills and their useless products seem to tail off badly on this forum. :lol:

Re: Kameleo
 

Rude? Why am I? I said using IE would put you in a small group of suspicious users. Am I wrong? And that's just my personal opinion only. When doing stealth, you aim to blend in with what the majority does and try not to make yourself part of the minority, don't you think? I haven't used any bad language with anyone here so far, nor will I ever do so. Using bad language is not the way I communicate. So who's rude here my man? Review your replies and count how many times you have sworn at me!

By the way, I would really appreciate it if you could gift me your Kameleo subscription so that I can have a more in-depth experience with it. You say you no longer have a use for it, no? So why not share?

Re: Kameleo
 

dont understand why would you or anyone else need this software and pay for it when you can do free user accounts on your pc/laptop unlimited

Re: Kameleo
 

Calling me 'part of a suspicious group' when Ive been on this forum since 2008 and an account seller since 2012 - call it strange but I consider that RUDE.
Stating that most senior user here are lying about using kameleo and are for some obscure reason trying to hide that fact - again call me weird but I find that RUDE.
You joined TODAY and with your statements you are pissing over everybody whos been here for years - That is RUDE.
Maybe keep your personal opinions to yourself if you know they'll be offensive to others - especially when you just walked into their house.
Lastly - youre right. I do have the subscription left for 50 days. The ONLY reason I wont share it with you is because youre RUDE!

Re: Kameleo
 

So youre NOT a kameleo rep?
Yet somehow you 'assume' I have 50 days left? Based on what? how would you know how many days I have left? You have absolutely nothing to base that assumption on since I gave you absolutely no information to base it on.
Who said that because of the double payment I received an extra month? Who said this happened recently?
Only someone with the inside story would know that part to that degree of accuracy - and its interesting that that is EXACTLY how much time I have left on it. Why don't you go ahead and tell people here how many times I logged into the software to actually use since I made that payment (hint - its a very ROUND figure).
Youre a lying sack of excrement pal. That much I already know for certain. Again I ask - do us all a favor and just piss off.

Re: Kameleo
 

Like I said, I have already heard from other users that they use different Windows accounts to go about doing their stealth, but don't you think they will eventually be linked by the same hardware? They will keep the same OS, possibly the same browser type and version, the same system language, the same screen resolution, even the same timezone it seems, the same GPS coordinates if asked to share, the same local IP it seems as can be leaked through WebRTC (disabling it will only raise a red flag because normal users don't disable anything), the same canvas fingerprint, the same audio fingerprint, the same WebGL fingerprint (same graphic card), the same sets of fonts and the same browser plugins as well probably, and they would also obviously have the same IP unless VPN or proxy is properly used that does not leak your IP through WebRTC or DNS. So with the majority of your fingerprint remaining the same, don't you think you will eventually be linked that way? Am I missing something?

Re: Kameleo
 

Like I said, I have already heard from other users that they use different Windows accounts to go about doing their stealth, but don't you think they will eventually be linked by the same hardware? They will keep the same OS, possibly the same browser type and version, the same system language, the same screen resolution, even the same timezone it seems, the same GPS coordinates if asked to share, the same local IP it seems as can be leaked through WebRTC (disabling it will only raise a red flag because normal users don't disable anything), the same canvas fingerprint, the same audio fingerprint, the same WebGL fingerprint (same graphic card), the same sets of fonts and the same browser plugins as well probably, and they would also obviously have the same IP unless VPN or proxy is properly used that does not leak your IP through WebRTC or DNS. So with the majority of your fingerprint remaining the same, don't you think you will eventually be linked that way? Am I missing something?

Re: Kameleo
 

Nope I don't think they will get linked by the same hardware. I run over 400 user accounts on one single PC for the last 10 years - NEVER had an issue.
And its quite simple to change a couple of factors on each user account to make it seem unique for fingerprinting purposes.
And its amazing how well versed you are at all these various factors for a new forum member.
And yes youre missing something - the fact you've outstayed your welcome.

Re: Kameleo
 

@SirTrader why dont you accpt that you works for Kameleo or some sales agent?

Re: Kameleo
 

When I said using IE would put you in a small group of suspicious users, all I meant to say is that IE is NOT being used by normal people any more. It is old tech. Even if someone uses it, they use the updated edition, Microsoft Edge, which is now also chromium based. So don't you think using the old IE for stealth would just make you look suspicious and raise security flags? I'm aware that the old IE does not support WebRTC, so you can avoid any leak through WebRTC by using the old IE, but don't you think that will make you look suspicious? How many normal people would create an account nowadays using the old IE? Quite rare. So when the system sees a new account being made on the old IE, wouldn't it be more likely for them to think that you're trying to hide something by using such an outdated browser? I did not try to offend you in anyway, I'm not sure why you took it that way!

Re: Kameleo
 

Again and again... still not seeing how what youre doing is rude.
I try to spread my account creation across as many browsers as possible. And I like to have support for as wide a variety as possible. Noone said I was using IE to open accounts (for the record - I don't) but there are other things I was thinking of trying with it and needed as much browser coverage as possible.
If you guys at kameleo were not able to do that all you had to do was say so.
Instead you guys gave me a runaround. That in my book is BAD customer service.
And please - stop denying you represent Kameleo. Youre look so dumb trying to do that at this point.

Re: Kameleo
 

Again, I am NOT a Kameleo rep as much as you would like me to be. It's quite funny how I've made everyone here think so :) I have no inside knowledge of any sort! It is mentioned in their FAQ that if you do make a double payment, it will just extend your subscription length, so it will not go in vain.

Here is a quote from their FAQ page:
Q) What happens if I have an active subscription and I buy a new one?
A) You can do it, and the new subscription will be added to your existing one. This way you can use Kameleo continuously.

You don't believe me? Please go there and read it yourself. And if you'd like to be sure that I didn't just update the FAQ now (as you think I'm a Kameleo rep), then please feel free to view the WayBack Machine for that page here:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://kameleo.io/faq/

So knowing that you made a double payment, it means that they granted you 60 days of subscription. Considering that you made a post about this 3 days ago and assuming that you spent a couple of days using their software and contacting their support about it, I would say you would have about 50 days left. I just threw a round number - only a guess. I don't really think it is exactly 50 days anyway, you're probably just exaggerating. I also read that you spent months asking them to implement IE? Hmm, then my assumption may be way off.

Anyway, I would stop posting so much if you agreed to share with me anything that may be left from your subscription :) Can I ask more kindly than that?

Re: Kameleo
 

Nice try.
That's quite extensive knowledge of everything Kameleo youre exhibiting there.
Said before and ill say it again - Piss off Kameleo rep loser.

Re: Kameleo
 

Kameleo/MultiLogin/AntiDetect/Linken sphere all generate the same device hash. You could say that these apps have their own unique device fingerprint.

Your account will most likely get a higher risk score if you use these apps.

Re: Kameleo
 

I would like you to prove that to us please. Generate the same device hash?? Where can you see that please? Please take us to a website that shows this "device hash" that you're talking about.

Keep in mind that I have researched most of the other similar softwares. What I like about Kameleo is that they spoof everything naturally, they do not just add some "noise" to the hashes because that can make you unique and suspicious! Yes, most of the other softwares add that "noise" and mess it up for you, but that is not how Kameleo works as per the tests I did.

You're throwing out a very vague term "device hash". What do you exactly mean by that? If you're referring to the canvas hash, the webgl hash or the audio hash, then Kameleo does spoof all these naturally and consistently, meaning that it will not seem to have been ⊗⊗⊗⊗d. The changes will be consistent with the other profile parameters. And the new hashes will not be 100% unique, meaning that you will find other normal PCs using the same hash, unlike other softwares that add a "noise" to the hash and make it 100% unique, meaning that you will not find any other PC using that hash, which means it has been ⊗⊗⊗⊗d, and this will be recognized by the website's security system.

I would like you to please explain more about this "device hash" that you're talking about. Where can we find it? What's the use of claiming something that you can't prove?

Re: Kameleo
 

Nicely said and succintly put - I could not agree more

If the OP doesn't like what is being said by people who 'walk the walk' - then jog on and go for it

Re: Kameleo
 

People been trying to tell him that for days now.
But since hes obviously trying to promote the site being a rep of it that wont do any good.
SirTrader - my experiences and my word are the evidence that it doesn't work. And if that is not sufficient for you then as youre told time and again - spend a few dollars and try it out yourself. Nobody here owes you jack $hit pal so stop making demands.

Re: Kameleo
 

Dude appears to work for Kameleo or at least is being paid to advertise here.
How does he have the time to manufacture, package, distribute, and market so much bull$hit if there wasn't something in it for him?

I hope his bosses will see that he's done their poorly made product more damage and haul this wannabe marketer back to base before he does any more damage.

Re: Kameleo
 

I'll tell you what, my country is going into full lockdown in 48 hours for the next 4 weeks so I'll have a lot of time on my hands. I'll run some tests with Kameleo over the next two weeks and see how it holds up. I'm already a bit disappointed by it because the Kameleo installer only supports Windows, not Linux.

Re: Kameleo
 

Hey, thanks for your willingness to shed some light on the matter! That's what I would like to see. Please let us know how it goes.

Re: Kameleo
 

Yeah, that's a bummer. I'm on a Mac and I have to run the software inside a virtual machine. I hope they will support other operating systems in the future.