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Uncle Billy 01-09-2010 05:57 AM

What about Cricket and Magic Jack
 
I just read through my stealth guide and I was wondering if anyone has tried or knows much about using Cricket for the Broadband Wireless? I have heard good things about them and where I live there coverage is ample. I am not a computer wizz like many on here but I assume that using Cricket Wireless the IP address would be dynamic? I would love to hear from someone that know more about it.

Also would magic jack work for phone verification?

oge 01-09-2010 09:08 AM

Heard about cricket broadband not sure about being able to change ips but i'm sure it's a go. Magicjack works flawlessly no problems there.

First Edition 01-09-2010 10:20 AM

Broadband cards will make a new ip every time you disconnect and reconnect, for the most part. I thought magic jack is for VOIP...

newtools 01-13-2010 02:44 AM

I have a majic jack, and no Reg. phone line.

I'm gonna try a v.92 dial modem connected to the magicjack. What I was noticing on some of the dial up internet services, if says: we do not gaur that a local number will be avalible. You get to choose your dial up number based on state and city, and choose a number in any area code.

For the $7.95 unlimted dial up, you can choose any number to dial up in teh country and match it to the state, city you have your mailing address and yphone number for verification. If you use vmware to create new windows user then a new hardare id for your network card is covered.

What do you guys think?

aspkin 01-13-2010 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Billy (Post 118606)
I just read through my stealth guide and I was wondering if anyone has tried or knows much about using Cricket for the Broadband Wireless? I have heard good things about them and where I live there coverage is ample. I am not a computer wizz like many on here but I assume that using Cricket Wireless the IP address would be dynamic? I would love to hear from someone that know more about it.

Also would magic jack work for phone verification?

Magic Jack should work fine.

And those broadband cards are nice for fast new IPs anytime you need them. Though not all services are created equal.

OfficialGenius 01-13-2010 05:16 AM

Unlimited 3G Broadband for $40 a month. Not bad at all!
Cheapest service I've seen out there for changing IP instantly each time. Verizon wireless is expensive or I can choose the $19.99 plan High Speed Internet only
Without Verizon home phone*

First Edition 01-13-2010 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OfficialGenius (Post 119243)
Unlimited 3G Broadband for $40 a month. Not bad at all!
Cheapest service I've seen out there for changing IP instantly each time. Verizon wireless is expensive or I can choose the $19.99 plan High Speed Internet only
Without Verizon home phone*

Cricket only works in certain counties in certain states. Verizon is nationwide and consistent. Worth the extra 20 dollars a month, by far.

ovidiu 01-13-2010 09:46 PM

You don't get the EVDO (3G) service everywhere, but pretty much every metro area (and many freeway corridors) will be almost completely covered. I have Sprint mobile broadband via a blackberry and love it. The dedicated aircards should be faster and receive better signal than the blackberry.

newtools 01-13-2010 10:28 PM

So basicly you don't need to do dial up to get a new ip everytime so you don't have to keep going back to your routers admin page and change the Mac Id and log it? Dennis was saying that changing out your router for each acct or just doing dial up for each new user acct and EB, PP login will chamge ur IP without having to do naything else. (the lazy way) :thumb:

If verizon is $20 a month and the ip changes everytime that would be great. I have heard on the forum EE, PP and Amazon track ur Network ID, how would that work using the same Broadband card?

First Edition 01-16-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtools (Post 119357)
So basicly you don't need to do dial up to get a new ip everytime so you don't have to keep going back to your routers admin page and change the Mac Id and log it? Dennis was saying that changing out your router for each acct or just doing dial up for each new user acct and EB, PP login will chamge ur IP without having to do naything else. (the lazy way) :thumb:

If verizon is $20 a month and the ip changes everytime that would be great. I have heard on the forum EE, PP and Amazon track ur Network ID, how would that work using the same Broadband card?

Verizon is 60, it's an extra 30 to tether your smartphone. I'm not sure about the network ID.... but the broadband card is great, I've been using it for months. Not had one single account linked. I've been logging all of my ip's too, and not one ip has been the same. After thousands and thousands of ip's....

Uncle Billy 01-17-2010 08:24 AM

to Cricket or not to Cricket
 
I have done quite a bit of research and for me Cricket offers the best deal hands down, "FOR ME." the coverage in my area is great, Cricket doesn't require a contract its month to month and its $20.00 less then everyone else And aside from Alltell its unlimited usage. I personally like the idea of how simple it is to change your IP address with a wireless card such as Cricket. I haven't purchased mine yet but I assume considering its month to month they wont require as much personal information like the other carriers such as AT&T, Verizion ECT....

I was asking about Magic Jack for the phone verification. I guess they hand out some weird phone numbers and wanted to know if anyone has used them without problems, thus far it sounds like it should work fine.

I really want to hear from people that are successfully or unsuccessfully using them and the suggestions they may have.

Lastley I heard there is a way to use an unlocked, jail broke Iphone as a wifi hub, my brother in law is working on it. For us Iphone users out there that would be really cool if it does work right

lakeman 01-17-2010 08:28 AM

I'm not sure if this is what you mean by an iPhone wireless hub. But I use PdaNet on my iPhone to connect it wirelessly to my computer.

First Edition 01-17-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Lastley I heard there is a way to use an unlocked, jail broke Iphone as a wifi hub, my brother in law is working on it. For us Iphone users out there that would be really cool if it does work right
As a wifi hub? You can use the phone as a modem, but this is basically using it as a connection/broadband card. I don't think you can hook more than one computer up to the wifi on an iphone. You can with a Mifi card from Verizon or Sprint, but that actually broadcasts wifi. The iphone doesn't have this capability... even then, you'd have to connect it to the ATT network.

Even you have an unlocked phone, let's assume you do make it a wifi hotspot. If it's not connected to the ATT network, you'll have to connect it to a traditional internet service, and have to use that ip address.

The resetting of the ip address with a mobile device is just a side affect of how it connects to the mobile phone network.


If you can get an iPhone to broadcast a wifi signal, that would be cool. Although, even then you'd be restricted to ATT 3g coverage. You can only use this phones data capabilities in certain more heavily populated areas.

Uncle Billy 01-17-2010 12:25 PM

Sorry guys that's what I meant please excuse my lack of technical vocabulary

lakeman 01-17-2010 01:28 PM

First Edition, you can use an iPhone to broadcast a wifi signal. I do it all the time. Of course when you connect to the wifi signal on your computer, the Internet will be the same speed as it is on the phone, but it's really nice to have. I have gone through hundreds of ips with it and have yet to get the same one twice.

First Edition 01-17-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lakeman (Post 120166)
First Edition, you can use an iPhone to broadcast a wifi signal. I do it all the time. Of course when you connect to the wifi signal on your computer, the Internet will be the same speed as it is on the phone, but it's really nice to have. I have gone through hundreds of ips with it and have yet to get the same one twice.

Sure, but I mean for the purposes of connecting more than one computer. Such as with a mifi. You're just using the wifi connection instead of a usb cable as a dongle/tether.

lakeman 01-17-2010 02:14 PM

Yeah, I haven't tried two computers at once but I would think it would work. I don't see why it wouldn't.

First Edition 01-17-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lakeman (Post 120173)
Yeah, I haven't tried two computers at once but I would think it would work. I don't see why it wouldn't.

I don't think it can be used as a hub. If it could, that would be cool. I wonder if other smart phones with wifi can.....

lakeman 01-17-2010 02:35 PM

I'll give it a try tonight, would be neat if it could.

OfficialGenius 01-18-2010 06:51 AM

Ok, I never ever done the tethering thing before so I am not experienced.

Do I need to have a plan or some sort of plan so that I am able to tether for a dfferent IP? Or am I able to do it prepaid?

I am just trying to see if I should invest money in a cell phone/plan or just DSL. The good thing about cell phone is that you don't ave to be home 24.7 to check your stuff, you can do it while you're on the go!

First Edition 01-18-2010 12:27 PM

I don't know about ATT, but with Verizon and Sprint you have to pay an extra charge to be able to tether the smartphone, on top of what you already pay for the data. I would just get a connection card. If you don't want to do a contract, you can buy a new card for 130 from Verizon and just pay monthly.

OfficialGenius 01-18-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 120382)
I don't know about ATT, but with Verizon and Sprint you have to pay an extra charge to be able to tether the smartphone, on top of what you already pay for the data. I would just get a connection card. If you don't want to do a contract, you can buy a new card for 130 from Verizon and just pay monthly.

The Verizon wireless plans are quite expensive, do you know if I would get a new IP each time I connect/disconnect?

First Edition 01-18-2010 07:12 PM

They're same price as any other nationwide service.... 59.99 a month. I've been using one for about a year, and I get a new ip every time, without fail. All I have to do is disconnect and reconnect. Plus, it's broadband everywhere, not just in certain areas.

maxx 03-15-2010 04:12 PM

Hi, I'm new here to this forum and loving it!

I clear about $500 per week right now on ebay using just one account but am afraid of it getting limited at anytime (I'm not a powerseller...yet!).

But I just got the stealth book and GOD have I been doing the wrong things!

Anyway, to the topic, I just created my first stealth account using the strategies from the book and I used my cricket broadband and Magicjack to do it, no problems!

I think that using a broadband card is the absolute best way around the IP issue. Every disconnect/reconnect brings a new ip so it's theoretically possible to use it to create unlimited accounts (depending on the IP range they've assigned to your area of coverage). I have yet to see it happen since I've started using it not too long ago but at some point, i figure that the ip's will recycle so have to very careful and vigilant about record keeping for ip's used per account to not accidentally link accounts when that happens.

As for magicjack, when you sign up, you get to choose a local number from what they have available in your area (and there are lots) but it gets assigned to your magicjack permanently. So you'll only get one phone number to use. It's not a cheap option to use for creating multiple stealth accounts. There are cheaper alternatives. Not sure if ebay allows using toll-free numbers to create personal accounts (but maybe business accounts. anyone knows??) but you can get cheap toll free numbers from kall8 instantly.

Anyone use them before?

First Edition 03-16-2010 01:51 PM

You can't use toll free numbers. vumber or phone.com is the way to go.

Big Tall & Hungry 03-17-2010 01:04 AM

I am still wondering about using Dialup with the MagicJack with the MJ using Broadband to get a different IP address. Does this work? Since I now have 5 Years of MagicJack fun. I did used 2 different computers. One for Dialup and another had the MJ in it. I tried it with Netzero and it just froze on me. So is it my 5 year old IBM Thinkpad modem or what? I would think it would work. It doesn't need to connect at 56K speed. Can anyone confirm that this works?

jbluntz 03-17-2010 01:44 AM

^^^
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OfficialGenius (Post 120425)
The Verizon wireless plans are quite expensive, do you know if I would get a new IP each time I connect/disconnect?

If you get a Verizon Blackberry and tether it to your computer you will get a new ip each time you reconnect. They are pretty expensive, mines about $150 a month but the blackberry data service by itself is only about $40 last time I checked.

First Edition 03-21-2010 08:26 AM

The data service itself is cheaper than the tether option. I'm not sure how much it is with ATT. (probably the same as verizon)

With verizon it's 30 a month for the data, and an additional 30 for the tether option.
Unless you have a corporate data plan, it's 45 a month, and an extra 15 for the tether.

Works just like a data card for connecting.

jbluntz 03-21-2010 09:17 AM

I guess verizon doesn't know I have my phone tethered than since I don't see any charges for that on my bill, just data and phone service.

oge 03-21-2010 09:31 AM

Are you using VZaccess Manager? Or DUN?

First Edition 03-21-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 129643)
I guess verizon doesn't know I have my phone tethered than since I don't see any charges for that on my bill, just data and phone service.

Interesting. I know there is an application you can download on the droid that will let you do it without paying the additional charge.

First Edition 03-21-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oge (Post 129645)
Are you using VZaccess Manager? Or DUN?

I thought you could only use the vz access to tether, it's been like that for a few years.

Are you talking about networking the phone to the computer?

jbluntz 03-21-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oge (Post 129645)
Are you using VZaccess Manager? Or DUN?

I'm using VZaccess Manager and I've heard of DONE but never heard of DUN.

First Edition 03-21-2010 02:34 PM

DUN is dial up networking.... I think.

oge 03-21-2010 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 129692)
DUN is dial up networking.... I think.

Yup that is correct. It's when you create a new dial up connection using yournumber@vzw3g.com, password is vzw, and the number to dial is #777.
I know all the codes that some of the techs don't even know to access different fuctions in the vzaccess manager.

oge 03-21-2010 10:16 PM

Using vzaccess manager keeps track of your usage but I heard alot of people using DUN that they can tether and it's not tracked.

First Edition 03-21-2010 10:33 PM

I wonder....

The blackberry data is supposed to be unlimited. There is, in fact, a limit of 5GB. The problem is that the phone couldn't possibly process 5 GB on it's own in a month, unless you're using it as a browser. Whether or not it's tracked by vz access manager, there is the potential to go over that limit. Not saying you will, I doubt the normal blackberry as modem customer is a heavy user compared to someone with a data card

The device itself uses a dial up connection with vz access manager, so does the data card.... like you said, it's to track the usage. I'm going to try that again when I get more sleep. It's been a few months since I've tried, but I couldn't ever get it to tether without the software.

back in the 1xrtt days you could tether anything, even without a data plan.... ah I miss sprint sometimes.

oge 03-21-2010 10:47 PM

Yea I bet they put a 5gb limit and charge you to tether probably because DSL & Cable companies were probably crying about it. Just think of how much business they would lose if tethering was free? Here's a little clip about tethering and verizon wireless TOS they seem pretty scrict BE CAREFUL Verizon users.


The following is from Verizon's ToS for their $49.99 unlimited data plan:

Unlimited PDA/Smartphone and BlackBerry® Plans:
Data sessions may be used for following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force and field service automation. Intranet access requires the BlackBerry Enterprise Server.). Unlimited plans are for individual use only and not for resale. The Unlimited plans cannot be used: (1) for any applications that tether the device to laptops, PCs, or other equipment for any purpose, (2) for uploading, downloading or streaming of movies, music or games, (3) with server devices or with host computer applications other than the BlackBerry Enterprise Server, including, without limitation, Web camera posts or broadcasts, continuous jpeg file transfers, automatic data feeds, telemetry applications, automated functions or any other machine-to-machine applications, (4) as substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections.
Data sessions automatically terminate after two hours of inactivity unless used with a Mobile IP-capable device. We reserve the right to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone who uses the Unlimited plan in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. We also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term.


Then here's something about tethering with the Droid.


Verizon Droid Tethering Will Cost You - PCWorld Business Center


Wow very expensive Verizon is really greedy.

First Edition 03-22-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oge (Post 129762)


Wow very expensive Verizon is really greedy.

Yes, something we finally both strongly agree with. ;)

jbluntz 03-22-2010 09:29 PM

^^^
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oge (Post 129756)
Yup that is correct. It's when you create a new dial up connection using yournumber@vzw3g.com, password is vzw, and the number to dial is #777.
I know all the codes that some of the techs don't even know to access different fuctions in the vzaccess manager.

That's how I do it but I also have vzaccess manager and 5MB which you can go over and pay a little extra.


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