| | | eddy16112 | 06-29-2010 11:51 PM | Create account with anonymous proxy I tried to create ebay account with anonymous proxy, so that I can change to any IP. Is it saft to do this?
Because if I use anonymous proxy, I cant control the IP, I may login with the IP of anywhere in the US when I login. |
| SelfMade17 | 06-30-2010 01:19 AM | PROXIES ARENT THE WAY TO GO...
ebay/paypal will know that youre using a proxy... |
| eddy16112 | 07-01-2010 12:20 AM | I AM NOT ARGENT
I check my ip here : Whats my IP - What is my IP Address? - IP Lookup . But when I use anonymous proxy to surf it, it shows no proxy detected or I use a anonymous proxy. Meanwhile it shows my IP is the IP of anonymous proxy server IP, not my real one.
I think this is a good, because ebay can only get the proxy server IP, because these servers are anonymous proxy, they wont give the real IP to eaby. |
| SelfMade17 | 07-01-2010 12:26 AM | lol. you ask for advise you dont take it. and i believe you didnt buy the ebay book.
so i have no idea what youre doing. you arent doing anything productive for yourself..lol
youre going to get suspended and limited again. have fun. |
Seriously. A new IP is not the holy grail. There is so much more involved. If you don't get the stealth book all you will have is an account that lasts a few days or weeks
I see a great deal of posts on here that seem to point to people thinking all they need is a new IP and the money will roll in... Its just not that simple. And if you just hammer open an account without knowing what to do, and why to do it, you're just wasting your time.
IP is important, yes. But its just one link in a chain. Any weak link and said chain will break. Even just an hour of reading would have let you know proxies are a death sentence.... Hell, its a sticky.
I don't want to lecture, but if you cant take a few days to read a 50 page book and scan the forums you are finished before you even start. |
| SelfMade17 | 07-01-2010 01:32 AM | yes. you ask for advise but dont take it..and you are stubborn about still doing proxies...and saving what? a few dollars...and then the accounts is gone forever..all the acounts youll attempt to make will be gone as well..GOOD LUCK. |
| eddy16112 | 07-02-2010 12:07 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by pod
(Post 148784)
Seriously. A new IP is not the holy grail. There is so much more involved. If you don't get the stealth book all you will have is an account that lasts a few days or weeks
I see a great deal of posts on here that seem to point to people thinking all they need is a new IP and the money will roll in... Its just not that simple. And if you just hammer open an account without knowing what to do, and why to do it, you're just wasting your time.
IP is important, yes. But its just one link in a chain. Any weak link and said chain will break. Even just an hour of reading would have let you know proxies are a death sentence.... Hell, its a sticky.
I don't want to lecture, but if you cant take a few days to read a 50 page book and scan the forums you are finished before you even start. | Thanks alot, I will read the book |
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddy16112
(Post 148978)
Thanks alot, I will read the book | Good stuff. Read it. Play around on here for awhile. And read it again. Much more will make sense reading it again after cruising the site here. Knowing what to do will get you most of the way. Knowing WHY you are doing it is the key ;)
And the folks here are a pretty helpful bunch... |
| SelfMade17 | 07-02-2010 01:01 AM | indeed. i second that! |
| mr888 | 07-04-2010 08:42 PM | The problem with proxies you find for free are that most of them are blacklisted in spam databases and ebay itself ( previous cowboys like yourself already used them on ebay ) so you won't get very far and just waste your time, the best route to go is get a wireless internet card with dynamic ip and keep a log of used ip's. |
| SelfMade17 | 07-05-2010 02:53 AM | no is no good for ebay/paypal/amazon.... |
| GreenBean | 07-06-2010 06:18 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by eddy16112
(Post 148436)
I tried to create ebay account with anonymous proxy, so that I can change to any IP. Is it saft to do this?
Because if I use anonymous proxy, I cant control the IP, I may login with the IP of anywhere in the US when I login. | Not a practical idea to be successfully stealth. IF you are in the USA, there are many other options. paypal/ebay/amazon detect proxies. They become worried at once. Therefore your account(s) are looked at more closely. That is something you should be prepared to avoid . :pop2: |
| YEMMY | 09-09-2010 06:44 AM | Has anyone used WWW.WorldVPN.Net Has anyone usd worldvpn and how effective is it.
Thanks |
| GreenBean | 09-10-2010 05:56 AM | @YEMMY, do you mind if I ask why you want to use this? :pop2: |
| YEMMY | 09-11-2010 03:39 AM | @ greenbean i want to pay for the service to hide my IP address , am finding it hard to do it manually myself. have been told this website helps block IP address for a fee. Have u heard of it |
| IWishIknewWhatIknewNow | 09-13-2010 03:03 AM | there are some private proxies that work with paypal. they give different ip addresses and cities. ive tried them and they work perfectly. google is your friend. |
| gagan | 11-02-2010 12:34 PM | if im not in us and i want US ip what shoul i use? i dotn have dial-up . so what is the other ways? no proxy no vpn .... so what anything else to use ? |
| gagan | 11-03-2010 08:53 AM | can someone recommend mw what to use, proxy no vpn no what anything else if im in europe and dont have dial-up |
| jerseykat1 | 11-06-2010 09:40 AM | proxies are ok as long as they are not the free ones that everyone and there grandmother uses. you must make certain 100% certain that the proxies are new and exclusive to you and you only, plus they need to be anonymous so that they will not be detected as a proxy. There is a few dealers that can provide these. internet marketing forums is the best place to start your search.
also there are VERY VERY few dealer that will sell EXCLUSIVE proxies in low quantities. usually you will have to commit to a whole block of proxies, which will cost you 250-400 per month, but you will have access over 200 exclusive ip addresses. |
Proxies and VPNs are for experienced computer users. Not for anyone just looking to avoid dealing with IP issues.
If you dont need to spoof a location then they are simply not needed. IPs are very easy to deal with. And anyone that has trouble changing an IP most certainly needs to avoid proxies.
If you know what you are doing and you need to spoof location, fine. But not for the average user at all. |
| jerseykat1 | 11-07-2010 05:45 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by pod
(Post 179933)
Proxies and VPNs are for experienced computer users. Not for anyone just looking to avoid dealing with IP issues.
If you dont need to spoof a location then they are simply not needed. IPs are very easy to deal with. And anyone that has trouble changing an IP most certainly needs to avoid proxies.
If you know what you are doing and you need to spoof location, fine. But not for the average user at all. | using proxies is not rocket science. most providers show you haw to use them. VPN's on the other hand i would have to agree. spoofing location is not the only reason to use proxies (however if you have 20 accounts in the same area selling the same stuff i would think a flag would be raised), proxies makes it much easier to manage multiple accounts as you dont have to keep a log of the ip addresses that has been used. You simply set that proxy to the browser on that user account and your done.
changing ip addresses on some ISP's can be very difficult (verizon fios) and some ISP's can be very limiting in the amount of IP's available to you (in my area DSL). But the best way to go is cable internet they have tons of IP addresses however you still need to keep a log of them as you will end up getting the same one from time to time (it's not just an ip game though). If you only plan on running 2 or 3 accounts go for it. but if you want to easily manage a lot of accounts with no worries of ip contamination then exclusive proxies is an excellent alternative. contrary to popular belief. |
You are providing people with bad info. Period.
First, proxies are a last resort and I could care less if you are using them. They are not needed and dangerous. They should not be used just because a person cant change IP. There are way way too many new people that come on here and can not get a handle on IPs and if they read "proxies are fine" they will try them, and fail. Its a shortcut thats not needed.
Second, if your ISP IP cant be changed, get a new ISP. Internet is cheap cheap cheap. If someone is not willing to pay for new internet to sell on eBay then they are already in trouble
Anyone that understands how proxies work will also understand how to properly manage IPs. So they wouldn't be needing help here. People that are looking at proxies are either too lazy to figure out how to change IPs or looking for a short cut. In both cases it will end badly
Yes, a proper proxy is fine. But its a dangerous and unnecessary way to do things and advising people starting out its ok is reckless
There are safer and easier ways for the average user. Managing IPs is very easy and people should focus on learning that instead of looking for a shortcut |
| holymoly | 11-19-2010 02:34 PM | ONE SOLUTION: You can never block ALL the private servers and IP BLOCKS from people (not saying FREE proxies) |
| nicetrypaypal | 11-19-2010 02:48 PM | Do some proxies work? Absolutely. Are they dumb to use? Absolutely..
as new corporations are being used to distribute proxy and VPN services, Paypal and Ebay work on finding them and blacklisting them,
so you may find 1 that will only work for 2 days then your account is shot, or even worse yet it may last 1 year before they blacklist it, now you're 300 positive feedback and instant worry free Paypal transfers are now limited.. and account shot anyways.
at that point you will realize **** i need a new ISP provider,, so either now or later you will have to get a new ISP provider or new IP address..
ISP providers are basically giving away them, they are so cheap.. |
^^^
Bang on. If all you are worried about is IP forget the word proxy altogether. |
| faris_jay | 12-05-2010 11:11 AM | Cool! Thanks a lot for this helpful information for a newbie like me. Anyway, gratefully my ISP does not use static ip. It changes ip every time I connect and disconnect it. :) |
| holymoly | 12-07-2010 11:45 AM | Great...and for others who DON'T have that...you can order static IPs to from your ISP for 5-10 bucks PER MONTH EACH. |
| jerseykat1 | 12-08-2010 03:47 PM | Not saying that using any old proxy would work and should be used. making money also means managing you time and working efficiently. Changing the ip is fairly easy on all ISP's except vzw fios (i have used them all as a craigslist poster), sure it is not a problem to just change your ip each to you sign into a different user account if your only using 2-3 accounts as long as you dont mind taking note of each ip you used to log in with and cross reference all of them every time you log in. But as i stated above if your juggling 20 accounts this is not an efficient option. To say that using proxies will end badly is not true. as i stated in post #19 you must make certain that these proxies are 100% exclusive and anonymous. i am not in any way advising anyone to go out and use a proxy rental service. I am speaking of services that assign you a few proxies (new) and as long as you are paying you are the only user of that set of proxies.
Now to say that i am misleading people is not true. the readers and users of this forum are not stupid, and i believe My post is pretty clear that you should not just be using any proxy you can find.
proxies are considered a bad idea because most people use the first service that pops up on a google search for "proxies". No that's not the way to go and it is not what i am advising.
Yes ip's are not the only thing to worry about. i have been a member here since 2008 as ineedmoney1 i purchased modee service when he was still on the forums, i know a little bit. im also a CLAD user, scrapebox user, bookmarkwiz user. i know a little something about IM and IP's. |
| jerseykat1 | 12-08-2010 03:51 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by holymoly
(Post 188137)
Great...and for others who DON'T have that...you can order static IPs to from your ISP for 5-10 bucks PER MONTH EACH. | I did not know you can purchase static IP's from your ISP. so let me get this straight you can pay your ISP 40 bucks a month for base service and then pay them an additional 5-10 bucks a month each for say an additional 5 static IP's? |
| jbluntz | 12-08-2010 04:56 PM | It depends on your provider, I know Clear gives you that option but the amount you can have is limited if its for personal use, if you sign up as a business you can have alot more. |
| alphaversa | 03-03-2011 11:56 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jerseykat1
(Post 188523)
im also a CLAD user, scrapebox user, bookmarkwiz user. i know a little something about IM and IP's. | aaahhh...good ole scrapebox :) | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:01 AM. | |
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