multiple ip's at the same time / multiple EBAY accounts

[poopdeck]

If You Have Comcast Or Other Isp You May Be Able To Purchase More Ip Addresses (comcast Allows Up To 3 But Their Modems Only Support 2) You Will Need To Have Two Routers Off A Hub--each One Will Be Assigned A Different Ip By The Modem's Boot Config (which The Isp Will Need To Change Remotely To Support The Two Ip Addresses) Which You Can Then Have Your Pc's Connected To.
In Case You Get Shutdown:
Get A Router Like Buffalo Where You Can Flash Dd-wrt Software--which Will Give You An Option To Clone Mac Address Which You Can Manually Change--giving You A Sleuth Of Different Ip (after Release/renew).
I Heard That Going With A Totally Different Isp Will Help You Stay On Ebay Longer? And Aol Proxy May Be Just As Good I Don't Know?

[ivegotinfo]

poopdeck, getting diaulup for like 10$ a month seems cheaper, and you have access to more IPs with every call-in number.

[ebayhateluv]

Necessary Evil-- you learned all that HERE in this Forum like I?

[poopdeck]

Thanks But I Have Digital Voice So 56k Is Not An Option. From The Ebay Tracking By Aspkin It Looks Like The Way To Go Is With Free Aol On My Current Isp. Aol Is Basically A Proxy Which Hides Your Ip And It Also Changes--but You Must Do Everything From Within Their Software.

[poopdeck]

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CONCEPT HATELOV AND NECEVIL ARE USING IS REDUNDANCY FOR THE MATHEMATICAL PROBABILITY THAT THEY ARE ALWAYS UP.

NOT ONLY ARE THEY PROTECTING THEIR MAIN BUSINESS BY SPLITTING IT INTO THREE UNITS (PROBABLY USING INDIVIDUAL PC'S) BUT THEY FURTHER PROTECT EACH UNIT WITH THREE SEPARATE EBAY ACCOUNTS. THIS MAXIMIZES THE DEGREE OF CERTAINTY TO CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS OR IN OTHER WORDS THE CHANCE THAT ONE COMPLETE UNIT WILL FAIL IS 1/3 X 1/3 X 1/3 OR 1/27 (3.7% CHANCE) TO LOSE THE WHOLE SHOOTING MATCH OR THE CHANCE THAT ALL UNITS WILL FAIL AT ONE TIME IS EVEN HIGHER AT 1/9 TO THE POWER OF 9. A VERY LOW NUMBER. THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE AND WILL HOLD TRUE BECAUSE OF NON LINKING OF ACCOUNTS.

THEY ARE PROBABLY USING MULTIPLE AOL ACCOUNTS WITH CORRESPONDING EBAY / WINDOWS USER ACCOUNTS FOR EACH UNIT. THEY USE ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ADDRESSES AND PROBABLY GIFT CARDS TO REGISTER THE SELLER ACCOUNTS. THEY ARE MOST LIKELY USING A 3RD PARTY EBAY APPROVED MERCHANT OTHER THAN PAYPAL (NEVER DONE THIS) TO RECEIVE PAYMENTS TO PREVENT EBAY/PAYPAL ACCOUNT LINKING. PROBABLY BOGUS PHONE NUMBERS AS WELL.

I'M NOT 100% SURE (AND SOMEONE PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG) BUT I THINK YOUR MERCHANT WOULD HANDLE ANY RETURNS WITH THE ADDRESS YOU HAVE ON FILE WITH THEM. I WOULD GUESS YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS EVEN WITH YOUR MERCHANT ACCOUNT??

AND I JUST FOUND OUT THAT BIDPAY IS DISCONTINUING ITS SERVICES.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A REPLY FROM THESE PEOPLE or aspkin ON THE ABOVE THANKS

[ebayhateluv]

HI- Yes, Yes, and YEs...
Very Smart deductions!
The returns are virtually zip. I had 2 diff customers, same zipcodes since August. My returns percent less than 1.
--Have a good.solid product, go out of my way to please the consumer.
---When they are unhappy- i either take it back or send a replacement- along with a prepaid return envelope the same time. Guarantee everything 110%.
--- I use ccnow- which accepts paypal for me, on 80% of my accts. I also use paypal, but only on my older accts, with strong fb.AND- i empty paypal daily.via my atm cards.
-- i am currently building transaction history on other ebay accts while simultaneously building transaction history on 2 other paypal accts (buying only right now)- to gain trust . For future backups...
-- I have a nEw router and dsl modem ready to go in case of suspension on any pc, and i have 2 accts already loaded with auctiva pics/descripts--so at the press of a button- 25 new fresh listings appear...under a new ebay id...
--- i have a typed list of the landline phone numbers-my kids help me call the numbers 2x/month to keep them active...
-- i also use my Palm Treo to open any questionable emails..

[super stealth]

ebayhateluv , you are my idol. When i get my train rolling I'll pm you

[lillyjill]

can you use dial up for multiple accounts on one computer if you clear cookies and reconnect every time?

[iwillsurvive]

Hey,

In china, they released a ebay killer called ÌÔ±¦Íø - it offers free listings and only makes money on adverts.

They literally killed ebay of the grid in two years - i am hoping something gets revolutionized here in the States.

[ivegotinfo]

lillyjill
yes it works. thats what i always do.

[steve]

Originally Posted by iwillsurvive

Hey,

In china, they released a ebay killer called ÌÔ±¦Íø - it offers free listings and only makes money on adverts.

They literally killed ebay of the grid in two years - i am hoping something gets revolutionized here in the States.

well, there is no english version of this site available ??
my mandarin is not that good :o

[MrJosh]

Hey everyone, I've been reading bits of info here and it all looks good....i've been registering new ebay/paypal accounts about every 2 months.

My volume is usually what triggers the suspensino


Anyways,

I was thinking about trying to open like 5 ebay accounts and using vendio to list through them

I would create completely different listings for each of the 5 accounts.

If I used AOL to log in to these accounts to give a different IP, used gift cards/bank Accts to verfiy each of the respective ebay/paypal accounts, do you think this would work???

Any thoughts or suggesstions on how to best run 5 accounts simultaneously??

[Jonas]

How does vendio compare to auctiva?

[stabilo66]

maybe will work at ebay. but the will catch you from paypal side regarding the gift cards.

[ebayhateluv]

Mr. Josh- Yes, youre on the right track,
- I generally run anywhere from 7-11 accts at once, takes an awful lot of juggling, but i keep notes/ sticky posts on index cards in a file box..
---keep notes to myself on my desk top, as well as commonly used generic memos to customers etc- to answer questions fast.
--- i do alot of copy/pasting..
--- i use ups to ship-- its alittle more in dollars, but once past a certain volume, prices same as fedex ground.
---also you keep an address book in ups- you can do reshipments easy
++ for those astute buyers buying from Suzy 123 + John123 (you)-
you already have their address- just change the return address.
-- I can send a ccnow invoice-copy/paste in less than 60 seconds, with cc always to my email-
--i also copy the ccnow link line= add it to notes under the item in my ebay-
--when i ship--i copy the tracking number to the add note in my ebay--then while in my browser- add to ccnow or paypal tracking..
-- i watch the dates in ccnow- as they pay the 1st + 15th-- get those tracking numbers in by the 29-30th and the 13-14th...
--sometimes send emails to give free upgrades to air to get the funds in before the cutoffs..
---its all organization// + cash flow!!!
Good Luck!

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by poopdeck

Thanks But I Have Digital Voice So 56k Is Not An Option. From The Ebay Tracking By Aspkin It Looks Like The Way To Go Is With Free Aol On My Current Isp. Aol Is Basically A Proxy Which Hides Your Ip And It Also Changes--but You Must Do Everything From Within Their Software.

I set up an acct using only aol to sign off and on, got shut down for non-payment of fees, have another one up and going through aol for over a month now and hasn't been linked to the first one even though they both use the same PP acct, but with different addresses. I'll be working on setting more up.

It is a lot easier to sign out and back in with the aol browser than to constantly be rebooting my modem.

[becca073]

You know I have AOL with bring your own access (I have a cable connection) and my IP address through AOL browser never changes. So I stick to dial up to list. Sure it takes longer but its my only option since the IP won't change.

[ebayhateluv]

HI- I have received many questions on running multiple accts, so I thought I would share here, just how "I" do it..
-- I was also asked the question, "Can I immediately start listing a Vero item, if I BUY an Ebay acct"?
--HERE"S MY RESPONSE + ONLY MY OPINIONS...
(Keep in mind, NOT ALL of my ways are the ways in Aspkins Guide,, I have to Tailor some things for "ME", as I am not the brightest bulb in the box, when it comes to Tweeking a pc...

Question: Can I immediately list a Vero item on a new acct? And how many? One per day? One per week? And HOw safe is your acct once you list one?
My Answer:
HI- TO be honest, if I knew all this-- I would not be on this forum )

In all my accts, sometimes they are safe, other times, they take them down..
>> I CAN tell you this much-- (WELL< let me share how I handle 11 accts at once)--
A.) i HAVE 6 ROUTERS + 4 DSL MODEMS
b.) I match up say router #4 with dsl modem #1, = xxxxx ip address
c.) when even 1 acct goes down- i immediately switch up-- say router #5 paired with dsl modem #4
c.) do you see ---so i have many combinations of ip address
d.) I have verizon dsl in one room, with 1 desk top + `1 laptop
e.) i have comcast cable in another room with 3 desk tops
f.) so- now multiply my ip possibilities x2-- (2 providers)-
then i have 5 pcs, so now multiply that x 5...
g.) I also have 3 hard drives for my main desk top (Hp MUlti Media-Pull out easy Drive, Personal Storage), and 4 Compaq EVo WorkStation laptop hd (IBM, Sure Store), for my laptop--
h.) SO_ again- when even 1 goes down-- I swap out everything-- I also keep at least 1 hd ready to swap out- having been completely formatted
i.) I also ---(after more than 2 go down)-- DO NOT EVER access the remaining 9 on my system ever again--I treat them as "infected"... they are now only accessed through either my Palm Treo-on Broadband, or at the Library,
j.) Now, I start up again, with 3-5 accts, listing only 1 item on each, 99 cent auction, a $10-$40 item on each, wait to see if those auctions last through Sunday night?
k.) If yes- then I upload photos=and go to town,,,(NOT Vero though)
l.) I keep my questionable accts -(that i dont mind loosing for any thing close to Vero)
m.) So, Sometimes I can be runnning with 2-3 experimental accts, up to 15 at once...
n.) I keep notes on everything--if I used BOLD, if i changed the ship from to USA, or similar, What i charge for shipping
*** i.e. I note: end in .66 cents, or .88 cents, example,
On acct A-- all shipping rates end in .66, so Priority is $4.66, 2 day air is $15.66, overnight is 29.66
Acct B- end in .88, so $4.88, $14.88, $22.88
You get the idea,,.
--This all takes an enormous amount of time and effort!
--The end Result== CA$H!! in my bank!
My Best Advice-- (If you are buying an acct)-you see you are now INVESTING in YOURSELF, So- Take it easy, buy a couple items on a new acct, use a VERY GENERIC description, maybe try NO PHOTO at first...
(sometimes buyers think theyre getting the steal of the YEAR, when a seller has no photo- in adequate description, etc.. BUT, YOU know what YOU are doing...)

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by ebayhateluv

-- i am currently building transaction history on other ebay accts while simultaneously building transaction history on 2 other paypal accts (buying only right now)- to gain trust . For future backups...

I thought that you had to provide tons of info to get the debit cards...at least an address for them to send the card to right?

How'd you pull it off?

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by becca073

You know I have AOL with bring your own access (I have a cable connection) and my IP address through AOL browser never changes. So I stick to dial up to list. Sure it takes longer but its my only option since the IP won't change.

Try setting up another user for AOL, sometimes I have to sign on as another user after completely exiting in order for the AOL proxy to reset the IP

[aspkin]

Good advice. And wow... that would drive me crazy every time I lost an account. I get pissed off just having to change IP addresses, and you have tons of accounts.

Much props to you.

[twdell]

ebayhatelove, you are amazing. do you ever sleep? i'm going crazy right now trying to manage 4 new accounts on 2 computers. i think i need more detailed notes, and i think i will take your awesome adive about the changing up every little thing. so even after you do all of this does ebay still find some of your accounts and close them?