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Permanent Limitation 34k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Paypal have recently permanently limited my Australian stealth account with 38.9k USD inside it.

The message I received was as follows:

If there is any money in your account balance, it will be held for 180 days (from the date of the last payment you received) to cover any disputes that might be opened by your buyers. After 180 days, we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance. If there are outstanding buyer’s complaints open against you, you can refund your customers via the Resolution Centre in your PayPal account.

The documents submitted for ID were from fictitious individual.

At the same time, the Paypal settings allows me to change the name of the account holder

They seem to be implying that they couldn't confirm the identity of the stealth account holder.

My questions to our more experienced forum members is:

1) Should I wait the 180 days and wait for it to be automatically released?

2) Or will they keep the money forever?

3) Should I just change the name to someone real and submit docs? And then withdraw after 180 days?

4) File an AFCA complaint?

Your assistance would be appreciated.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

you need to wait 180 days.
after paypal will send you email and you can withdraw into your link bank

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

You sure? Even if the ID was never confirmed? The bank account was confirmed only and they knew the business.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

After 180 days, we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance.
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search this forum,someone has already tried and got the message they cant prove it is him

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Maybe they give the option of changing the account holder?

I think money laundering laws - in practice - are actually triggered when you want to withdraw funds.

Perhaps submitting a real ID would do the trick. If not, Ombudsman

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Don't do anything silly now like change the user details even if they are implying it. Once you do that you might as well wave bye bye to your funds. Just wait 180 days. Try to withdraw it. If that fails. Come back on here and seek help.

24k is a ridiculous amount to leave in a stealth account. But not unheard of on here.

It's a waiting game now.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

I'm just curious, do they actually have the right to withhold funds forever?

What if someone makes a claim on an account?

Could I claim an ex-employee made a mistake and opened in his name and now I'm correcting his mistake?

Or even that the business has changed hands?

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

You could most definitely make up a story but it's just a headache nobody needs. And it will no doubt be an absolute nightmare getting the correct person with the authority to let you withdraw actually have a look at your case.

It is easier for them to keep sending you generic "bot" responses saying they can't verify your ID or documents and keep refusing you the right to withdraw your funds indefinitely hoping you eventually give up.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

yes,they can hold the fund forever,unless you can prove you are the legit owner of the account but with stealth account ,how can you prove that?
In some cases if the owner dies,then the family can go thru proper channel to access the account.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

But legally they will eventually need proof that the account was stealth.

The mere face that can't verify an account doesn't mean its from a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ person.

So you guys are saying waiting 180 days does the trick?

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Unfortunately even after 180 days it isn't guaranteed. Just look at the recent threads on the forum using the search function.

It's really depressing. Lots of sellers are having creative docs rejected after 180 days as well.

With that said, you should wait 180 days before you do anything such as revealing your real identity etc or making any claims.

Just let it be for 180 days.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

i m sure,after 180 days u can withdraw

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

sir dnt worry.these funds are urs no one can withdraw.dnt lose your link pone no,also add security questions .i am working on paypal from 2012.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

180 days is just to make sure no one is filing chargeback against your account,you still have to prove you are the rightful owner of the account,IF ASKED.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

But how do you do this with a Stealth account ? How do paypal conclude you are not the rightful owner . Just because they cant confirm your submitted ID doesnt mean that ita ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or you dont exist

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

But how do you do this with a Stealth account ? How do paypal conclude you are not the rightful owner . Just because they cant confirm your submitted ID doesnt mean that ita ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or you dont exist

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Well I would wait 90 days and if no chargebacks tell them to release or you will file against them whatever Australias BBB is, and light them up on facebook, I got mine back after 5 months after doing that.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

u can link payoneer austrlian nab bank account after 180 days.
also trasferwise .just relax and wait for 180 days.
if face any issue save my profile .

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

No,he is advising you not to change the account holder or make up story like employee /ex employee problem.
It is a stealth account,which is bad enough,making up story makes it worse.
There is an Australian precious metal dealer who had 80K in his Paypal account(not stealth) ,he has to hire a lawyer to get Paypal to release his money.
But paypal shut down his account,without Paypal,he cant sell on Ebay.
Is keep large sum in Paypal account a tax issue?

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

First of all, It is needless to say how stupid it is to hold money on paypal at all. Especialy on a non existing person and such an amount.

I had the same situation. Paypal closed 2 of my accounts with around 2k EUR each and i could not withdrawn the money even after 180d. Ive sent them ⊗⊗⊗⊗ docs and they found it out.

I called them and admited what i did and they said it would be no problem and I should send them the real docs and they will refund me the money.

1) Most likley your money wont be released autmaticly after 180d. If it will make sure to have an active MOBILE!! (no landline!) connected to paypal. Do not connect it after 180d because it takes them 30d to accept the new number.

2)fight for it!

3)Best thing is to wait 180d and if you are really lucky you can just withdrawn the money.

4)No! You did some bull****! Call paypal and tell them youve ⊗⊗⊗⊗d docs and want to get your money back. If you are scared to face the consequences (Paypal wont go to police because of this) find someone who can take this **** on him. If paypal refuses to coorperate then you should fill a complaint. But without admiting about the **** you did to paypal, it is pointless to fill a complaint since you need to tell them the full story anyway.

If you have any questions pm me
(No i am not asking for money or offering any services i just want to help and not share private information here)

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Hey Ozzie,
Really sorry to hear about your account frozen by PP.
I just though maybe you could answer a couple of questions that might help.
Did you verify your ID before the limitation? I assume you did since you have a significant amount there.
Did they just accept the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID earlier? No questions asked?

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Are you having a brain blockage?

All of the replies are basically using words like may or might.

Nothing is ever a guarantee when dealing with PayPal.

What stopped your withdrawal of funds regularly?

Why have you quoted an amount in US dollars?

:peace:

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

I could relate with you in some term,

I lost more than $67K just because i was stupid enough to let them be there for that long.

First try to get a creative ID and wait for the time or even hire someone to call them and get them to work/add your bank where you can withdraw. Once the time is up just go ahead and withdraw. Give them a call if they need.
I know it just Sounds easy but its not.
Go ahead and get working with them on call and just keep doing it. They are assholes and just would refuse to allow you to get your funds whcih you can finally get once a single person decide to help you!

Question: Couldn't you refund and ask them/buyers/sender's to resend you the whole amount?

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

you dont have much of a choice,so wait 180 days and see if you can withdraw it.
There is a case of an Australian precious metal dealer ,it has a brick and mortar store in Australia and its own website but decided to sell on Ebay as well,accepting Paypal.
When Paypal locked up its account,it has $80k balance.
Paypal refused to release it,4 months later they hired a lawyer and finally got their money back but Paypal shut down their account.
Without Paypal,they cant sell on EBAY as their merchant account from Aussie bank cannot use one of the 3 gateways which work with Ebay.
never find out why Paypal restricts its account but around the same time,other precious metal dealers account were restricted as well,like some from Israel,it could be money laundering and ISIS funding???
But keeping 80K in Paypal account when one is engaged in a capital intensive business like precious metal does raise eyebrow????

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Terryprince said-
Question: Couldn't you refund and ask them/buyers/sender's to resend you the whole amount?
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Now what a briliant idea,thats what we are all aiming to do,sold an item and then hit the refund button !!!
who said Time is money?

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Rough story to read about - 67k ...best of luck with the pushing

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Thanks man,

Means a lot to me!

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

If Burbur told PAYPAL the truth that it is a stealth account and I am the true owner and here is my true ID,and he got his money back.
Maybe this is a better approach,you may be be banned from PAYPAL but you get your money back.
why do people keep so much money in their Paypal account?
There must be reason,some are facing a divorce,bankruptcy,tax issues or like some would say we dont trust the bank !
next time,keep it under the mattres or safe deposit box

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Got all the money back + compensastion + AFCA fined Paypal.

I've got the CEO's personal mobile. So if you want to ask her about your money give me a buzz and I'll give you her number

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Very happy to read that you finally got your money + compensation.
This success in this "fight" will surely help our great community as its serious issue we are facing everyday unfortunately.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

If this is true, it is the best possible news in regards to paypal limitations I have heard yet. Congrats!

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

totally true, mate. Feel free to ask me what you want

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Hi, i can't send u pm,

do you think is there any way to get back the money stolen from paypal?

https://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal...count-aup.html

thanks

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Were the items you sold legal?

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

ebay removed 2 items for VERO and 1 body cream becouse they said needed a prescription.
after a month paypal suspended my account.
170 days later paypal stole all the money

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Congrats on the win mate! I'm in a similar situation myself now, are you able to toss the CEO"S number up so I can give the ol' girl a buzz? haha

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

Yes, I have PM'ed you.

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

That's rough to hear especially with the body cream accusation. Have you figured out a game plan of action yet?

Re: Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)
 

can you tell me how to do my account now same status they take my money after limit