Permanent Limitation 24k USD - Australia Stealth (180 days)

[Ozzie_Stealth]

Paypal have recently permanently limited my Australian stealth account with 38.9k USD inside it.

The message I received was as follows:

If there is any money in your account balance, it will be held for 180 days (from the date of the last payment you received) to cover any disputes that might be opened by your buyers. After 180 days, we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance. If there are outstanding buyer’s complaints open against you, you can refund your customers via the Resolution Centre in your PayPal account.

The documents submitted for ID were from fictitious individual.

At the same time, the Paypal settings allows me to change the name of the account holder

They seem to be implying that they couldn't confirm the identity of the stealth account holder.

My questions to our more experienced forum members is:

1) Should I wait the 180 days and wait for it to be automatically released?

2) Or will they keep the money forever?

3) Should I just change the name to someone real and submit docs? And then withdraw after 180 days?

4) File an AFCA complaint?

Your assistance would be appreciated.

[shelfer.org]

you need to wait 180 days.
after paypal will send you email and you can withdraw into your link bank

[Ozzie_Stealth]

You sure? Even if the ID was never confirmed? The bank account was confirmed only and they knew the business.

[agent006140]

After 180 days, we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance.
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search this forum,someone has already tried and got the message they cant prove it is him

[Ozzie_Stealth]

Maybe they give the option of changing the account holder?

I think money laundering laws - in practice - are actually triggered when you want to withdraw funds.

Perhaps submitting a real ID would do the trick. If not, Ombudsman

[james_112233]

Don't do anything silly now like change the user details even if they are implying it. Once you do that you might as well wave bye bye to your funds. Just wait 180 days. Try to withdraw it. If that fails. Come back on here and seek help.

24k is a ridiculous amount to leave in a stealth account. But not unheard of on here.

It's a waiting game now.

[Ozzie_Stealth]

I'm just curious, do they actually have the right to withhold funds forever?

What if someone makes a claim on an account?

Could I claim an ex-employee made a mistake and opened in his name and now I'm correcting his mistake?

Or even that the business has changed hands?

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth

I'm just curious, do they actually have the right to withhold funds forever?

What if someone makes a claim on an account?

Could I claim an ex-employee made a mistake and opened in his name and now I'm correcting his mistake?

Or even that the business has changed hands?

You could most definitely make up a story but it's just a headache nobody needs. And it will no doubt be an absolute nightmare getting the correct person with the authority to let you withdraw actually have a look at your case.

It is easier for them to keep sending you generic "bot" responses saying they can't verify your ID or documents and keep refusing you the right to withdraw your funds indefinitely hoping you eventually give up.

[agent006140]

yes,they can hold the fund forever,unless you can prove you are the legit owner of the account but with stealth account ,how can you prove that?
In some cases if the owner dies,then the family can go thru proper channel to access the account.

[Ozzie_Stealth]

But legally they will eventually need proof that the account was stealth.

The mere face that can't verify an account doesn't mean its from a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ person.

So you guys are saying waiting 180 days does the trick?

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth

But legally they will eventually need proof that the account was stealth.

The mere face that can't verify an account doesn't mean its from a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ person.

So you guys are saying waiting 180 days does the trick?

Unfortunately even after 180 days it isn't guaranteed. Just look at the recent threads on the forum using the search function.

It's really depressing. Lots of sellers are having creative docs rejected after 180 days as well.

With that said, you should wait 180 days before you do anything such as revealing your real identity etc or making any claims.

Just let it be for 180 days.

[shelfer.org]

Originally Posted by ozzie_stealth

you sure? Even if the id was never confirmed? The bank account was confirmed only and they knew the business.

i m sure,after 180 days u can withdraw

[shelfer.org]

Originally Posted by ozzie_stealth

maybe they give the option of changing the account holder?

I think money laundering laws - in practice - are actually triggered when you want to withdraw funds.

Perhaps submitting a real id would do the trick. If not, ombudsman

sir dnt worry.these funds are urs no one can withdraw.dnt lose your link pone no,also add security questions .i am working on paypal from 2012.

[agent006140]

180 days is just to make sure no one is filing chargeback against your account,you still have to prove you are the rightful owner of the account,IF ASKED.

[Ozzie_Stealth]

Originally Posted by agent006140

180 days is just to make sure no one is filing chargeback against your account,you still have to prove you are the rightful owner of the account,IF ASKED.

But how do you do this with a Stealth account ? How do paypal conclude you are not the rightful owner . Just because they cant confirm your submitted ID doesnt mean that ita ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or you dont exist

[Ozzie_Stealth]

Originally Posted by agent006140

180 days is just to make sure no one is filing chargeback against your account,you still have to prove you are the rightful owner of the account,IF ASKED.

But how do you do this with a Stealth account ? How do paypal conclude you are not the rightful owner . Just because they cant confirm your submitted ID doesnt mean that ita ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or you dont exist

[Kajunrook]

Well I would wait 90 days and if no chargebacks tell them to release or you will file against them whatever Australias BBB is, and light them up on facebook, I got mine back after 5 months after doing that.

[shelfer.org]

Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth

But how do you do this with a Stealth account ? How do paypal conclude you are not the rightful owner . Just because they cant confirm your submitted ID doesnt mean that ita ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or you dont exist

u can link payoneer austrlian nab bank account after 180 days.
also trasferwise .just relax and wait for 180 days.
if face any issue save my profile .

[agent006140]

No,he is advising you not to change the account holder or make up story like employee /ex employee problem.
It is a stealth account,which is bad enough,making up story makes it worse.
There is an Australian precious metal dealer who had 80K in his Paypal account(not stealth) ,he has to hire a lawyer to get Paypal to release his money.
But paypal shut down his account,without Paypal,he cant sell on Ebay.
Is keep large sum in Paypal account a tax issue?

[burbur]

First of all, It is needless to say how stupid it is to hold money on paypal at all. Especialy on a non existing person and such an amount.

I had the same situation. Paypal closed 2 of my accounts with around 2k EUR each and i could not withdrawn the money even after 180d. Ive sent them ⊗⊗⊗⊗ docs and they found it out.

I called them and admited what i did and they said it would be no problem and I should send them the real docs and they will refund me the money.

1) Most likley your money wont be released autmaticly after 180d. If it will make sure to have an active MOBILE!! (no landline!) connected to paypal. Do not connect it after 180d because it takes them 30d to accept the new number.

2)fight for it!

3)Best thing is to wait 180d and if you are really lucky you can just withdrawn the money.

4)No! You did some bull****! Call paypal and tell them youve ⊗⊗⊗⊗d docs and want to get your money back. If you are scared to face the consequences (Paypal wont go to police because of this) find someone who can take this **** on him. If paypal refuses to coorperate then you should fill a complaint. But without admiting about the **** you did to paypal, it is pointless to fill a complaint since you need to tell them the full story anyway.

If you have any questions pm me
(No i am not asking for money or offering any services i just want to help and not share private information here)

[bosas1]

Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth

But how do you do this with a Stealth account ? How do paypal conclude you are not the rightful owner . Just because they cant confirm your submitted ID doesnt mean that ita ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or you dont exist

Hey Ozzie,
Really sorry to hear about your account frozen by PP.
I just though maybe you could answer a couple of questions that might help.
Did you verify your ID before the limitation? I assume you did since you have a significant amount there.
Did they just accept the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID earlier? No questions asked?

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth

But legally they will eventually need proof that the account was stealth.

The mere face that can't verify an account doesn't mean its from a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ person.

So you guys are saying waiting 180 days does the trick?

Are you having a brain blockage?

All of the replies are basically using words like may or might.

Nothing is ever a guarantee when dealing with PayPal.

What stopped your withdrawal of funds regularly?

Why have you quoted an amount in US dollars?