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Long time no here... but here we go again Nothing has changed in the way i develop accounts, and it even got even more complex - with graduately doing purchases and sales, with first sales at about 1-2 usd, and last sales at about 50 usd. So in 6-7 months I get an account that has around 50 FBs spitted evenly between sales and purchases. But once I start selling my main item - standard ID + Business info + Tracking + Invoice request. I upload all documents except tracking, and they are marked as green. But once I add tracking info - permlimit after few days. Lost more accounts in a week than in the previous year! All accounts use same prepaid VCC, and all of them use IPs from several subnets, however, these subnets are not public (not rented from any hosting company), so no way they were abused by somebody else. I assume the prepaid card raises flags. Anything else is done as it should be, every account uses separate virtual machine with a Dedicated IP, simcards used are also physical. Ideas?
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Ciao muzzie welcome back

I guess you're right, prepaid cards must be the weak link...
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Ciao muzzie welcome back

I guess you're right, prepaid cards must be the weak link...
Hey there! Had many many events in my life apart of the forum... but what do you use instead of prepaids? It seems there is no way to use just bank accounts?
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You need to start using VCCs that arenít flagged as prepaid.

Check out the marketplace on here a few of the sellers now offer these
Maybe you can suggest some sellers that offer non-prepaid cards?
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Welcome back muzzie I hope you get this sorted out
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Welcome back muzzie I hope you get this sorted out
Hey there Rsot! Yeah, need some workaround, as just many old accounts got killed, and I am not the only one with the issues. So I wonder if anybody still uses prepaids for PP, of they are NONONO now?
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You need to start using VCCs that arenít flagged as prepaid.

Check out the marketplace on here a few of the sellers now offer these
There's been a surge in complaints (on this forum) as regards the same issue muzzie wrote about.

If VCCs are responsible, it is likely being sold on this forum. Should I need VCCs at this time, I'll be buying elsewhere on the internet. At least there a chance to vindicate the VCCs sold here if the others from the internet present the same challenges.
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There's been a surge in complaints (on this forum) as regards the same issue muzzie wrote about.

If VCCs are responsible, it is likely being sold on this forum. Should I need VCCs at this time, I'll be buying elsewhere on the internet. At least there a chance to vindicate the VCCs sold here if the others from the internet present the same challenges.
I used cards that have never been sold here in the past 2 years, and got into issues in the last 2 months. So definitely not the issue with the cards being sold here, seems much bigger issue.
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Has paypal changed their policy in time frame between feb - April ?
Because in January entropay was still live, but after if im remember all accounts with those vcc what talking about Muzzie has ben baned for me as well !

I didnt remember about paypal policy change since January. Need to read what they have changed. Probably there can be answer as well.
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Best thing is trial and error. Try doing the same thing with cards with a different BIN. Same thing for IP.

Only through process of elimination will you be sure what the underlying cause is.

You did say tracking caused limitation, maybe try out different couriers etc.
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Best thing is trial and error. Try doing the same thing with cards with a different BIN. Same thing for IP.

Only through process of elimination will you be sure what the underlying cause is.

You did say tracking caused limitation, maybe try out different couriers etc.
I think the courier does not change anything. It is credit card for sure...
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Best thing is trial and error. Try doing the same thing with cards with a different BIN...

...Only through process of elimination will you be sure what the underlying cause is.
I've got to agree that's about the most reasonable way out. But it's got to be the long, hard way as well.

Some accounts go down months later from the date of creation. If one has created a bunch of accounts in between, there's a risk that all efforts and resources including bank accounts would have gone to waste.
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You need to start using VCCs that arenít flagged as prepaid.

Check out the marketplace on here a few of the sellers now offer these

It's got nothing to do with VCCs.

And those cards you're referring to are being so heavily abused at the moment they'll be causing limitations sooner rather than later. Just because it's identified on a BIN tracker as a debit card doesnt mean Paypal cant see who the card issuer is.
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jas

It most definitely has nothing to do with VCC's ... I got my first account through the EU limits ! with a pre-paid vcc attached.
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It's got nothing to do with VCCs.

And those cards you're referring to are being so heavily abused at the moment they'll be causing limitations sooner rather than later. Just because it's identified on a BIN tracker as a debit card doesnt mean Paypal cant see who the card issuer is.
How can you know what cards I am referring to? Also, all this started out of nowhere, working for years, nothing has changed, and suddenly every account is being limited after documents request. What is the reason then if not VCC. Some changes in PP policy?
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He didn't quote you.
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How can you know what cards I am referring to? Also, all this started out of nowhere, working for years, nothing has changed, and suddenly every account is being limited after documents request. What is the reason then if not VCC. Some changes in PP policy?
Yes, as parsierngue was saying I wasnt replying to you.
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How can you know what cards I am referring to? Also, all this started out of nowhere, working for years, nothing has changed, and suddenly every account is being limited after documents request. What is the reason then if not VCC. Some changes in PP policy?
I wouldnt say it's a change in policy. It's more a case of them changing strategy on how they manage risk.
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I wouldnt say it's a change in policy. It's more a case of them changing strategy on how they manage risk.
Would be nice to know what has changed then.
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