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Permanent Ban on First sale?
 

I’m almost done with PayPal at this point. I’ve been creating stealth for 2 years and just now I’m getting permanently limited all the time. I got a complete separate iPhone, bought a new sim, bought a sim package to use the data. This should be a whole new person now right?

A lot of mods here will tell me to use a laptop but if a whole new phone with new sim isn’t working what hope will a laptop have?

Previously my account would get limited on first sale and I’d have to send in Docs to restore. But as of the 1st of January 2022 everything is now ****ed.

What I sold? The customer sent through PayPal £100 for second hand shoes so please don’t tell me it’s the items I’m selling.

I stealth done? I don’t know what tactics they are using to limit accounts but this seems to overboard. Please don’t try and sell me on some residential IP from ipBurger or something because I doubt that will work if a whole new phone and sim isn’t.

I’m tired, frustrated and depressed, if anyone in the UK is still setting up stealth with no problems please help me. Or anyone at all

Re: Permanent Ban on First sale?
 

are you creating personal or business accounts?

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I’m creating personal accounts, are you saying you can’t accept £100 g&s with a personal account anymore? And that still wouldn’t justify an instant limitation upon payment…

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are you receiving payments right after the accounts were created?

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I received the payment maybe a day after the account was created… I know this is a risk but for it to be permanently limited the same minute as payment is received is crazy!!!

I have had many accounts limited before but none are with the new phone I used or the ISP I used… how could they link that?

Is it that they know the area where accounts are being created???

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What do you mean that it is f*ed? They closes account after they check docs? Is there a bank or card add on acc already?

Because now everything i create gets limit NOT after the first sale, but immediately after creating account, but sending docs immediately fixes that in a hour or so.

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I add a VCC from ICARD. I received £100 yesterday and the same minute I got permanently banned.

I’m using sim as data on my phone and safari browser to set up an account on a new phone!!!

Can they see my location? Maybe my location is blacklisted??

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What was the category of your first sale?

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I got a buyer on instagram… on the goods and services PayPal payment he wrote “second hand pair of dunks, size 8.5” and sent £100. The minute he sent the money I was permanently banned.

If it was temporary limitation I would understand but this is a permanent ban! On a whole new phone and IP how is that even possible?

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Shoes and 100 amount - could have been tagged by PP right away. Buyer's source of payment may have been dodgy too....just saying

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Would suggest to test some other vcc, because icard giftcards and revolut are most used cards around and could be a problem. Because i remember few years ago majority of vcc used to come from India and it was identical scenario at least for me- account closure initiated after first payment and even no options to refund. It went away immediately after source of cards was changed.

Also long forgot option which was always denied and used to be a nonsense - MAC adress. Maybe now something changed and providers gives out MAC ?

Also smartphones are big on "cross-cookies" tracking - would stick to PC and different users scenario.

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Also by the chance emails are not Gmail??
Because i starting to notice that accounts which are set up using gmail gives more problems than others, but maybe just for me..

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MAC still doesn't come into play as yet

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can you try using other VCCs? I have higher success with VISA cards issued by a portugal bank

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So you guys think it’s a VCC problem? If it was then wouldn’t they limit my account upon adding that VCC to the account? Why wait till I make a sale? What’s really kicking me is that it’s permanent limitation aswell?

So nobody else is using Revolut or ICard too that can verify this? Also what are my other options?

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It is a gmail but would that be the reason for such limitation? What happened with the gmail you used?

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Same, allway limit 180 day with first order

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Are you using revolut or ICard VCC?

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definitely not the gmail triggering the suspension. i am also been using revolut vcc without problems, even withdrawn my funds to it.

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No bro, my acc not add bank and card

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You should stick to desktop for PayPal stealth’s. Mobiles are a pain

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Change up the business model OP

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Have you used the APP or the browser on the phone?

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It was the browser.

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Explain how you are 100% certain your IP is legit and clean? This along with fresh unused cookies can be an issue (remember clean cookies are bad, you want to look like a real person so some legit browsing history on their website for a 1-2 weeks before opening an account), and browser fingerprint are your new best enemies.

It's likely your repeitive method of creation, patterns, habits all playing a part, especially if your doing this a few times a week.

Cool off! wait a couple weeks, write down your methods and what you have/havent tried and work through a process of elimination.

Your method and tools may be flawed or flagged at the moment, obviously.

Re: Permanent Ban on First sale?
 

I know the IP is clean because it’s a whole new sim used for ip. The thing is people have been creating stealth this way for years, I believe something has changed in their system as I’m not the only one experiencing problems. The last one I created was partially restored then permanently limited 3 hrs later.

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How quickly are you listing/receiving payment after creation?