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BIG TIME! never saw this kind of limitation before am i dead?
 

stealth account running smooth for 8 months, yesterday got 2 limitations:

1. We need some more information about some of your recent sales.

Case ID Number: PP-002-xxxxxxxx

2, we need more information about your account

Case ID Number: PP-002-xxxxxxxx


when i go to the resolution center, holly lord, the list is this long:


May 6, 2013 Photo ID
May 6, 2013 Bank Account Statement
May 6, 2013 Proof of Address
May 6, 2013 Provide Invoices
May 6, 2013 Supplier Contact Info
May 6, 2013 Provide Proof Of SSN
May 6, 2013 Confirm Social Security number
May 6, 2013 Update phone numbers
May 6, 2013 Provide business information
May 6, 2013 Set credit check address
May 6, 2013 Provide EIN or TIN

i've provided EIN a few weeks ago, yesterday i updated my email address because the old one is not working anymore. can't be quite sure what triggered this, but i think i'm dead now right? even if i can provide all other info, i can't give any social since it was associated with a bad account.

i also think this kind of long list its self speaks that paypal doesn't like you anymore - for whatever reason.

it is a strong account with 550 items/30,000$ selling limit. and i just registered a LLC and got EIN for it. Suggestions anybody?

i do still have some other stealths but to build them up takes time, not to mention to register another LLC and so on.

All I can say is WOW.

Oh you got the kiss of death! You might as well light that account with a lighter and watch it burn!

Might be the kiss of death.

But skilled talking might get the EIN accepted in place of the SSN.

You will never know unless you push paypal.

Usual be fully confident yadda yadda yadda

Push for your account's survival.

Let paypal kill the account rather than your not trying to keep it.

Good Luck

ps,,,, PUSH

:juggle:

always good advice from you. i might as well give them a call, just afraid i'll waste time prepare all the docs - which is time consuming for reasons we know - then it is dead anyway, enough ppl had the experience that even after they provide everything paypal will be just like :"well, no."

:D think so too. where can i get a lighter?

sommer,

Make sure it's a great bonfire .....

Give it your best try beforehand.

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yeah. i've had limitations before but never saw this long list. something is seriously wrong, no idea, just hope my other stealth would not be linked.

lessons learned: do not touch your stealth account if you don't absolutely have to, be it changing email or anything else. you never know what would pull the trigger :(

My suggestion would be the phone call to get the OK for just the EIN....

if that is not approved, then decline to do anything further ( hard work wise ;)

Make the bonfire.

:pop2:

:amen: will just play innocent...

good one! will give a try and report back

Good luck sommer33 - best to go with one step before you attempt all of them. I am pretty shocked that all this got sparked from changing the e-mail BUT pp is known to go ballistic on the chance of a solid account being hijacked...likely the system saw this and froze it all up. Hope it works out

You may be asked for less info if you call :)
there's a theoretical chance at least

Theoretical chance - with PP you never know...they can slam harder too :(

here i'm back with the paypal phone call, interesting enough i've found out on my paypal page it says "we can't verfy info you provided to apply for the paypal master credit card" - this might be something really triggered the fire. i now remember accidentally clicked on something yesterday and a page came out asking me filling out info for a paypal creditcard application, i immediately closed it thought it was just a random thing.

anyway when i called the woman was very rude on the phone after reviewed my case - i guess there must be some notes saying "dead account, do not care":mad2: she basically just said send in everything and we will see. when i tried to discuss the social security thing she was very impatient, simply said you need to provide everything whatever is asked, period.

the *******s cancelled my withdraw from previous day, so now 3000$ will be sitting there for 6 months, good thing that i withdrew every week!

kiss goodbye my good old account, hope the new start will be smooth and last for a while.

Similar thing happened to me around 2 months ago.

I accidentally clicked on the display images link in an ebay message and signed out right away.

2 hours later, BAM! Account limited with no chance to appeal. Account had no issues, 30 feedback, all positive and NO cases whatsoever.

I think they are betting on people clicking on those to get more info about the owner of the accounts.

I dont even come NEAR the paypal credit app pages. lol. Seems to be instant death!

really? so that must be it? can't believe it, i didn't even fill in any forms or click on apply! are you sure you are not on a banned ip address while you were signed in?

What in the world could you be doing for them to be asking for that much info... holy cr@p

Applying for a pp mastercard could lead to a busload of questions - would make sense since you are asking for CREDIT...whether sommer, you clicked by accident or not :( that sucks though but still...you cant just click around trying to go through pp quickly. Need to take proper steps - slowly.

Yes.

If it is running smoothly never add anything unless you are forced to.

I am like GB I never would give up but this would be a ton of work.

Depends on the account and how old, solid etc etc if it is worth it or not.

Good luck with whatever you do.

try to call again and see if you get a better rep.
what time did you call? if you called during business hours, try calling them during late night.

Rats..rats...

try one more call at a different time of business. No luck...
we'll light the bonfire.
rats
:mad:

thanks guys for all your nice advices and best wishes! called again, no, non-negotiable, the rep insists social and ein are two different kind of identity proof. ok, somehow also released me, to start anew probably takes same time as try to send in all theses docs:juggle:

could it be that i was further linked through inkfrog? recently i got an email from a buyer, strange enough he replied an email that inkfrog sent him after auction ending, the registered inkfrog email address is an old email associated with a limited account. anyway going to cancel this inkfrog membership and start a new one. has anybody noticed if use inkfrog's image hosting for multi accounts, the image's url will show your inkfrog username, which is same for multi accounts.

wish everybody good luck and do not repeat my mistake!

Rough to hear sommer33 - i havent heard of linking through inkfrog except for images (not e-mails):

ex for reading: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-account.html

Search results for inkfrog: EBay Suspensions Forum and Paypal Limited Froum - Search Results for inkfrog

thanks rsot, so you've heard linking through inkfrog images before? i used inkfrog because saw several posts here saying it is safe. now that my account becomes a bad one, i have to make sure not to link to it with other stealths

When some report an issue while others do not have an issue you need to be alerted to it.

When it was reported some were having linking problems with Inkfrog others said they were not, therefore take all precautions until it is sorted out.

Do not use inkfrog at all until we know for sure.

No sense in risking your other accounts if this is a problem.

Go slow and think before you work on your other accounts to keep them safe.

yes you are right. i'm observing another back up account for 3 days, make sure it is safe then start to sell more on that one. not decided yet if i should shut down the bad shop immediately, since it is still selling and some buyer can pay without paypal.

And paypal is asking for SSN on one of my stealth accounts. Can I apply for a ein with my info and use it on my stealth acct? Thanks

PP is known to be hard when asking for SSN...they are unlikely to budge on that so your account is in peril.

It really depends. PayPal usually starts bugging you like crazy when their formula has you coming close to or exceeding the 20k limits. Especially early in the year.

Probably time to take a few months off selling if you have the page that pops up asking for tax id before you can go to your main page.

Would suggest starting a spread sheet and keeping track of how much you receive each month. You want to spread it out so it looks you you won't be coming close to the 20k threshold if you can not comply with the Tax ID request.

As Sandy D always points out this is where it is a good idea to run multiple stealth accounts and spread out your sales accordingly.

Also for general purposes I am not giving anyone advice on not reporting income or paying their taxes. I am just giving on advice on how to better maintain a stealth account without interruption due to this law.

Never been sure of this.

I honestly prefer auctiva.

Not had hassles ever.

:typing:

Do you normally withdraw $3000 at once... Most of the time "follow the money"...

That seems very high to me for a one shot. I have several Gold accounts and never withdraw more then $500 in one shot.

Would also depend on the strength of the account and payments and such but low amounts is recommended.

Was this a straight out 'give us your SSN request' or was other ID on the list as well. Actual notice might help.

Your reply hinges on the advice you get.

Another point would be to look over your selling plan. Check where you are with the amounts you have sold. You may be about to be flagged on other accounts.

Be aware of this now.


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With regards to income and paying taxes, a person should seek out professional tax help not forum posting so much